Re: Jihad and killing in the way of Allah should be made common : Munawwar Hassan
the video is here, what do you guys understand?
Munawar Hassan Jamaat e Islami views about Jihad and Terrorism - Video Dailymotion
Re: Jihad and killing in the way of Allah should be made common : Munawwar Hassan
what does qital fi sabeelillah and jihad fi sabeelillah means?
Re: Jihad and killing in the way of Allah should be made common : Munawwar Hassan
jihaad fee sabillillah aur qitaal fee sabeelillah against his own people? ridiculous. itnaa hii shauq aur jasaarat hai hai to phir jaayeN aur Amriika se laReN ba jaaye iske k Ghareeb bachchoN ko jihaad ke dhoke se dahshatgardii ke liye apne hii Musalmaan bhaaiyoN kaa qatl-e-'aam karvaayeN...
...ajeeb log haiN...NS IK ko dahshatgardoN se ta'alluqaat kaa ilzaam lagaate haiN magar majaal hai unkii k jo [Munawwar Hassan] ba-baang-e-dohl jihaad karne ke liye logoN ko uksaa rahe haiN unko khuli chhooT de rakkhii hai...NS meN agar himmat hai to arrest kareN Munawwar Hassan ko. hargiz nahiiN kareNge kiuN k is kaam se unkii rooH fanaa hotii hai.
Re: Jihad and killing in the way of Allah should be made common : Munawwar Hassan
lulz](http://www.paklinks.com/gs/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=lulz) Hum jis muashre main rehte hain. ab aaya oont pahaR ke neeche. lets see who condemns this use of ‘hum’ 
Re: Jihad and killing in the way of Allah should be made common : Munawwar Hassan
what does qital fi sabeelillah and jihad fi sabeelillah means?
The only way for JI to corridors of power.
Re: Jihad and killing in the way of Allah should be made common : Munawwar Hassan
qital - does not mean “murder”
It would be very strange for any Muslim to advocate murder whilst believing it is murder … murder is part of fasad and is a mortal sin and subject to sentence of death or blood money, qatal is technically “physical fighting” which can lead to killing … so an acceptable meaning of qatl is “killing” … but the problem in this linguistic formula is that it is wrong to conclude:
“killing for Allah” … 
The essence of qital-u-fi-sabee-lillah and jihad is in line with what Allah (SWT) advocates … That there shall be no harm and no propagating harm … that oppression shall not prosper and fasad should be stopped … It is not about killing but about preventing it … the offensive jihad as people quote is also about this … Offensive jihad is a misnoma - in reality it is pre-emptive campaigns that is allowed … Just like in the case of Fatah-e-Makkah … That was a conquest - where none were killed on the battlefield … So in fact pre-emptive actions can be less damaging and need to be selected on that basis. Collateral damage is absolutely wrong in the Islamic rules. So based on this what ISIS and many Muslims are doing on the battlefield is wrong.
These days a regime may be oppressing its people so another comes in trying to liberate them, but when doing so themselves start to oppress those people … that is not jihad … When fighting groups enter a land for jihad you know it is true jihad when it is fi sabee lillah - but it is “for the sake of power and political gain” when they do it to manifest their agenda and control. True jihad is to fight putting oneself at risk of harm to protect others and when the risk subsides to lower your weapons and leave the power to be taken by the responsible members of the populous to decide among themselves. Power vacuums are dangerous so it would be prudent to not enter a place for such jihad until and unless a proper and organised body that is representative of the people to form the opposition that is recognised by other countries.
Jihad also encapsulates not bending to bribes, not bending to governmental threats or from other bodies, being law abiding in this day and age is a jihad because it is difficult.
Re: Jihad and killing in the way of Allah should be made common : Munawwar Hassan
....If M. Hasan is asking for jihad to be restored - he is asking it to be so in the context of it not being equivalent to "terrorism" and for it not to be done as "zulm" - as far as I am concerned this is correct ... ....
You might understand and interpret it the way you are doing, but how common people interpret these thing, you can see in this thread.
The situation we have in the country these days, JI should be careful. If me and others in here can interpret his statement the way we are doing, how easy it is for extremists to recruit people based on such statements?
The a certain Shaykh interprets 'jihad' and 'qatal' differently from what masses are used to, one should be careful in using such terms. For me, and millions others, these terms have become really terrifying.
Re: Jihad and killing in the way of Allah should be made common : Munawwar Hassan
Can he be booked under Blasphemy laws for disrespecting islam by making false claims on its behalf.
Also he could be booked under treason charges for calling dead soldiers a non shaheed inciting more people to kill soldiers.
Re: Jihad and killing in the way of Allah should be made common : Munawwar Hassan
Qital fi sabeelillah means “murder for Allah’s blessings”…I know its not easy to translate word by word. We know the situation of the country where some people are spreading fitna on whole sale basis. How should we take his words considering the ‘Jihad’ going on in the country? We have also seen how some Alqaeda members were arrested from JI members homes. Its making sense as these people are similar to Egypt’s Muslim Brotherhood.
Re: Jihad and killing in the way of Allah should be made common : Munawwar Hassan
Some previous statements of the same guy:
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Hakeemullah Mehsud is a shaheed (the same guy who owned up to the deaths of thousands of Pakistanis. After all he had launched Qital fi sabeelillah in the country)
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OBL lives in the hearts of people
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Pakistan Army men are not shaheeds (as they are fighting America’s war)
…These are the people who provide oxygen to organizations like TTP, ISIS, Boko Haram and Shabab Militants. And then we blame the west for all of our woes.
Re: Jihad and killing in the way of Allah should be made common : Munawwar Hassan
Peace Ali_Syed
“Murder” is haram 
Look here …
Surat Al-Baqarah [2:190] - The Noble Qur’an - ??? ???
Fight in the way of Allah those who fight you but do not transgress. Indeed. Allah does not like transgressors.
You are confusing different Arabic forms:
Form 1 Qatala - Yaqtulu = Kill
Form 2 Qattala - Yuqattilu = to be killed (Noun - Taqteelan = a massacre)
Form 3 Qaatala - Yuqaatilu = To fight
Form 8 Iqtatala - Yaqtatilu = To fight
Noun 1 - Al-Qitaal = Fighting
Noun 2 - Al-Qatla(y) = The slain/murdered (person)
Noun 3 (Verbal Noun) Al-Qatli = The act of killing
Whenever the Qur’an uses the phrase fi sabee lillah it uses the Form 3 … which is the verb to fight …
Re: Jihad and killing in the way of Allah should be made common : Munawwar Hassan
^ People like Mumtaz Qadri are perhaps not aware of the subtleties of Arabic grammar.
Re: Jihad and killing in the way of Allah should be made common : Munawwar Hassan
Salam brother Psyah, this is all well and good, the problem arises when likes of Munawar Hassan justify or support organizations who are known/involved in killing of common people. These organizations set their own targets, justify making/defining anyone as legitimate target for “jihad”.
Re: Jihad and killing in the way of Allah should be made common : Munawwar Hassan
Wa’alaykumuSalam brother Captain1
We are living in a troubled world in a troubled time … Jihad is not easy and mindless violence is an easy option … so people conflate the two and give themselves reassurance and justification.
I think Munawar Hassan needs to tested for his views using a journalist of high calibre who knows the subtleties of the religion and can root out exactly what the position is of Hassan without casting him in any light for a political motive …
I am doing my bit … please spread the message …
Re: Jihad and killing in the way of Allah should be made common : Munawwar Hassan
Like word ghareeb is "poor" in urdu and "strange" in arabic.
Re: Jihad and killing in the way of Allah should be made common : Munawwar Hassan
Like word ghareeb is "poor" in urdu and "strange" in arabic.
Urdu meN bhii aisaa hii hai...
Ghareeb = nirdhan, poor
Ghareeb = strange as is in the phrase, "'ajeeb o Ghareeb"
Re: Jihad and killing in the way of Allah should be made common : Munawwar Hassan
Politician know Urdu/Arabic
So the Gharib is stranger for them
Re: Jihad and killing in the way of Allah should be made common : Munawwar Hassan
What an idiot, should be banned from speaking to public or media ever again.
We already have so much religious extremism and here comes this man asking people to kill?
Re: Jihad and killing in the way of Allah should be made common : Munawwar Hassan
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Re: Jihad and killing in the way of Allah should be made common : Munawwar Hassan
We have seen how "brothers" come to defend completely moronic statements by their "scholars" and then say "how many people follow this guy?" Munafiqat ki bhi koi had hoti hai..
Statement by munawwar hassan is without any shred of doubt outrageous and idiotic. you cannot justify it by linguistic analysis of words "qital" and "jihad". Qital is organized fighting like battle. common people don't do Qital in an established state and that fighting doesn't happen within "our society". He also said that "Qital" has been wrongly termed as "terrorism". So it means that whatever the terrorist groups are doing is "Qital" as per Munawar hassan. How can one be so dumb to support such statements just because he is a muslim.