So this guy is again in the news. No wonder in the past many Alqaeda members were found hiding in the houses of JI fellas.
Re: Jihad and killing in the way of Allah should be made common : Munawwar Hassan
And then some people claim Non Muslims are bringing bad name to Islam.
LAHORE (Dunya News) – Jamaat Islami (JI) former chief Syed Munawar Hassan on Saturday said that democracy alone can’t solve problems unless culture of ‘Jihad for the sake of God’ and ‘murder for the sake of God’ is promoted, Dunya News reported.
Addressing Jamaat’s gathering in Lahore, Hassan said that the current circumstances warrant promotion of ‘murder for the sake of God’, adding that people are afraid to use these terms openly but, he said, democratic politics alone won’t resolve issues.
He said ‘good politics’ will win and democracy will be effective only as a result of ‘murder for the sake of God’.
Re: Jihad and killing in the way of Allah should be made common : Munawwar Hassan
He is the same guy who said that Soldiers killed while fighting the Taliban were not Shaheeds. Pure evil this guy. He probably worships Qadri as his hero.
Re: Jihad and killing in the way of Allah should be made common : Munawwar Hassan
And then some people claim Non Muslims are bringing bad name to Islam.
And how many Pakistanis and Muslims agree with him?
Re: Jihad and killing in the way of Allah should be made common : Munawwar Hassan
Is he living in 'Gidu Bandir'? If not please send him to 'Gidu Bandir' for mental treatment.
Re: Jihad and killing in the way of Allah should be made common : Munawwar Hassan
Is he living in 'Gidu Bandir'? If not please send him to 'Gidu Bandir' for mental treatment.
yeh Gaidu Bandir kahaN hai? kisii paagal Khaane meN jagah na mile to Mushy ke shahr Agra ke mash'hoor o ma'roof paagal Khaane meN bhejvaa deN...ham unkaa FREE ilaaj mo'aalija karvaa deNge! :D
Re: Jihad and killing in the way of Allah should be made common : Munawwar Hassan
And how many Pakistanis and Muslims agree with him?
and how many Jamaitis left their party after that statement? They are still doing open campaign in every city of Pakistan and people do visit their jalsas. What does this say about Pakistani Muslims who follow jamaat. They are ignorant of such statements? or They don't have any problem with such statements?
Re: Jihad and killing in the way of Allah should be made common : Munawwar Hassan
First qatal fe sabeel Allah should be Mumtaz Qadri's
and on serious note, for a moment he made me believe that he is different from his predecessors and believe in change through proper system (with all the negotiations etc he was facilitating) but he ended up being new model of same product line of douchebags
Re: Jihad and killing in the way of Allah should be made common : Munawwar Hassan
First qatal fe sabeel Allah should be Mumtaz Qadri's
and on serious note, for a moment he made me believe that he is different from his predecessors and believe in change through proper system (with all the negotiations etc he was facilitating) but he ended up being new model of same product line of douchebags
aap ne shayd Munawar Hassan aur Siraj ul Haq ko gad mad kar dia hai
Re: Jihad and killing in the way of Allah should be made common : Munawwar Hassan
What he means is that the democratic parties should continue to support the likes of LeT, LeJ, SSP etc.... warna in ka khana paani ko de ga?
Re: Jihad and killing in the way of Allah should be made common : Munawwar Hassan
and how many Jamaitis left their party after that statement? They are still doing open campaign in every city of Pakistan and people do visit their jalsas. What does this say about Pakistani Muslims who follow jamaat. They are ignorant of such statements? or They don't have any problem with such statements?
That's not the answer of my question.
Re: Jihad and killing in the way of Allah should be made common : Munawwar Hassan
That's not the answer of my question.
How come?
You put a question where discussion point was JI's leader. so you got a factual aspect related to JI's supporters in the form of a question.
Its not necessary that for our questions we always get answers. Some questions invite other questions and not answers.
Re: Jihad and killing in the way of Allah should be made common : Munawwar Hassan
traditionally, religious parties have a vast following but that never translated into votes. religion caters solutions to a host of problems while political systems [democracy being the most popular one] is solely revolves around the basics of life like economy, law N order, Education, Healthcare, opportunities for employment etc. it doesn't deal with private issues like spirituality. people seem to be more interested in their worldly affairs than spiritual ones and that's the reason why they do NOT elect religious party candidates who try to push their religious codes on the whole nation.
Re: Jihad and killing in the way of Allah should be made common : Munawwar Hassan
How come?
You put a question where discussion point was JI's leader. so you got a factual aspect related to JI's supporters in the form of a question.
Its not necessary that for our questions we always get answers. Some questions invite other questions and not answers.
This thread is posted to somehow show that muslims are to blame for bringing bad name to Islam so I asked do all Pakistanis agree with this person munnawar hussain?
Re: Jihad and killing in the way of Allah should be made common : Munawwar Hassan
traditionally, religious parties have a vast following but that never translated into votes. religion caters solutions to a host of problems while political systems [democracy being the most popular one] is solely revolves around the basics of life like economy, law N order, Education, Healthcare, opportunities for employment etc. it doesn't deal with private issues like spirituality. people seem to be more interested in their worldly affairs than spiritual ones and that's the reason why they do NOT elect religious party candidates who try to push their religious codes on the whole nation.
Let me clear one thing. People don't reject religious parties just because people are materialistic. Hypocrisy of these religious parties and their leaders is also a deciding factor. Who will follow Molana Diesel as his religious leader (in Urban areas. he is still making fool many in rural areas). Same is true for JI. They were against idea of Pakistan. accepted it in between. Enjoyed and supported dictators like Zia and now call for democratic system. These JI walas are the same who are talking of Islamic and welfare system. unko uss waqt kis kutte ne kata tha jab unki badr o shams Bengali Musalmnao per qehar bun kar tooti thi?
Re: Jihad and killing in the way of Allah should be made common : Munawwar Hassan
I think you missed OP’s point that JI’s leader had given refuge to AlQaida people in past. You can ask for examples from OP. Where did he say that all Pakistanis support Munawwar Hussain. Not all Pakistanis, but a sizable number support JI even after these statements. Remember their million marches and now this 3 days ijtimaa in Lahore. you might have seen crowd attending these ijtimaat in today’s newspapers. I was surprised to see that they gave a picture of JI ijtimaa in Lahore in today’s Ummat, but I couldn’t see IK’s jalsa picture or news on Ummat’s front page (though they had in headlines rumor about IK married to a Hazara anchor) ![]()
Re: Jihad and killing in the way of Allah should be made common : Munawwar Hassan
and how many Jamaitis left their party after that statement? They are still doing open campaign in every city of Pakistan and people do visit their jalsas. What does this say about Pakistani Muslims who follow jamaat. They are ignorant of such statements? or They don't have any problem with such statements?
People just can't leave this political party because they joined it for religious reasons and leaving it would be like blasphemy. And that is why the whole cannot criticise Muslims or Pakistanis pov is wrong because it kills debate and other point of views and leaves people who are less knowledgeable about religion thinking if there's an Islam tag with it then it must be right.
Re: Jihad and killing in the way of Allah should be made common : Munawwar Hassan
OMG…lol…ab aise ideas to na deN k kal se mazhabii party chhoRne par maar dhaaR aur qatl o Ghaarat-garii shur’uu ho jaaye! ![]()
Re: Jihad and killing in the way of Allah should be made common : Munawwar Hassan
There's a reason why he was removed from JI's leadership. He and his sons arent so famous in Khi because of all these stupid things. So I dont think anybody cares what he says.
Re: Jihad and killing in the way of Allah should be made common : Munawwar Hassan
I don’t think it demonstrates in any way that muslims are bringing bad name to Islam. if anything, it just shows the lawlessness in Pakistan…there are no laws against banning hateful and jihadi remarks like these.