JF-17 at Paris Air Show-First Order won

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That is excellent news, AlHamdulillah. Pakistan should continue to produce JF-17 and other competitive platform for defense use so that Pakistan can grow economically as well as beef up its’ defense capabilities without reliance on others.

Any guesses on which country is the first client?**

Pakistan wins first jet order at Paris Air Show: spokesman**

Pakistan has won the first-ever order for its JF-17 Thunder jet fighter, an air force spokesman said Monday, as the revamped plane dazzled crowds at the Paris Air Show.
Pakistan has been years without a buyer for its first home-made jet, which was designed with the help of close ally China.
Commodore Syed Muhammad Ali, spokesman for the Pakistan Air Force, confirmed an order for the plane had been finalised.
However, he declined to give any more details, citing sensitivities for not naming the client, the number of aircraft or the date of delivery.
The latest model, which is capable of Mach 2.0 (twice the speed of sound) with an operational ceiling of 55,000 feet, roared over the crowds on the first day of the Paris Air Show soon after the confirmation.
A report on the aviation website Flightglobal.com quoted another senior officer, Air Commodore Khalid Mahmood, as saying the sale had been made to an “Asian country” and the delivery would take place in 2017.

But Pakistan is hoping the updated JF-17, along with Pakistani-made tanks and surveillance drones, will help increase military exports and bring in much-needed foreign exchange.

However, a number of factors have prevented it from finding buyers.
“Any country entering the defence market will find it’s very, very crowded,” said James Hardy, Asia-Pacific editor for IHS Jane’s Defence Weekly in London.
“No one has a bad word to say about the JF-17. It’s very good at what it’s designed to do – as a low-cost, multi-role aircraft. But there are obstacles.”
Some of those are political and logistical.

The Pakistan Aeronautical Complex (PAC) just west of Islamabad is capable of turning out 25 of the aircraft per year.
Pakistan has never revealed the full sales price, which is always complicated for fighter jets given the large amounts of maintenance service and potential add-ons that can come with it.
Having unveiled the second generation JF-17 last year with improved avionic systems, air-to-air refuelling capability, additional weapons capability, PAC is already working on the third, with rumours it will add a second seat, which is popular with international buyers.
The Paris Air show runs until Sunday, with the final three days open to the public.

Pakistan wins first jet order at Paris Air Show: spokesman

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Probably SL. They’re working on block 3 of JF-17 already which would be inducted in PAF by 2017 I think.

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not want to be pooper.
But pakistan needs water treatment plants lot more then it needs any other technology. I promise.

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No you’re not being a pooper. I agree with your suggestion and respect it as well. Uninterrupted clean drinking water, power and education should be the top three priorities of the govt. (wishful thinking on my part.) Although this JF-17 venue would open a door to earn significant revenue as well. I wish the govt. had ist priorities right where it should’ve spent those multiple billions of rupees on power projects and clean uninterrupted water supply solutions rather than spending huge money on metro bus. I am sure with 50 + billions rupees they would’ve resolved the power crisis permanently.

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That is true, brother. Pakistan should do that simultaneously. As mentioned by Patriotgames, the sale of JF-17 will help to raise the profile. Pakistan can resolve the need of water treatment plants with just increase in tax collection alone, because there are so many wealthy individuals in Pakistan who do not pay taxes, or pay a tiny fraction of what they actually owe. Decrease in corruption will result in increase in funds in the treasury and better use of funds.

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Also, the Block 3 of JF-17 would include:

Dual seat variant
AESA radar
HMD
Refueling Probe

Would be carrying the following armaments:
A-darter
SD-10
CM-102
CM-400

The ones that performed the flight demonstration at Paris airshow have the Chinese turbofan engines. With PAF having MLU’d F-16s and BLK52 F-16s, upgraded JF-17, only thing that can out match them is 5th generation fighters such as F-35, PAK-FA, J-20 or J-31. No Wonder IAF interest in 4.5+ gen fighter faded out too fast. Not to mention buying expensive Rafael will not give them edge.

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What about MKI and perhaps the new rafales in the east?

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They both are 4th gen. that can be countered by PAF F-16s. The MLU’d ones have been upgraded to 4th gen and blk 52 are 4th gen. One of the main edge IAF has is the numbers. PAF in particular and armed forces in general, the foundation of their doctrine is how to fight with an enemy 4 times the size. Just like Israeli armed forces where they are surrounded by enemy countries and have to fight against larger armed forces. Keep in mind the MKIs and Rafales though very potent aircrafts are not battle tested, whereas F-16s are. PAF has been using the JF-17s along with F-16s in the airstrikes against the terrorists in northern areas which provides the opportunity to test the hardware in a real scenario.

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Isn’t the Thales radar that Pakistan wanted for jf17 part of rafales?

As for f16s, I am wary of them operational in an indopak war given 65 and 71 history. Kehtay gain momin aik sorakh say bar bar nahin dasa jata! I hope that PAF has learnt lessons which itbsboukd have prior to 71 war. It did cost us in the western front allowing India to move extra forces to east Pakistan.

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I hope we are not selling to myanmar.

Confirmed: Sino-Pak JF-17 Fighter Jet Has its First Buyer | The Diplomat

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First orders are really a motivation than anything for a new enterprise.
Pakistan might have problem with water plants and load-shedding but citizen should rejoice at such a news.

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The earnings from this will no doubt go to the military, something I don’t mind at all.

We have so much money to fix the other issues in the country, sadly it’s going in the pockets of traitors like Nawaz/Zardari/MQM.

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It’s a myth that if we cut down our defence spending, somehow we will magically start improving on education and health. Nope. If Rs230 billiions from just one city stop going to political mafias, we would be able to spend on improving basic facilities. Pakistan’s actually not a very poor country, the rich are just too rich and vast majority of them, illegally so! Get them to starting pay their taxes, and in an ideal situation, the government can collect enough revune for Health and Education and all other sectors that the existing Defence budget will look like peanuts in comparison.

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That is why PAF along with govt. decided to continue progress on the JF-17 project which will give Pakistan self reliance and given the lessons learnt from history that never to rely on western countries, as they’ll be quick to impose sanctions during a conflict with India. JF-17s are improving, blk 3 would probably have more powerful engine with AESA radar, along with HMS, etc. and would be able to carry more payload. The JF-17 project gives Pakistan a great experience and exposure to the aviation industry which will allow Pakistani engineers to manufacture on their in near future. Something the US or any other European country would never offer.

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**Maryam Nawaz Sharif **‏[COLOR=#8899A6]@MaryamNSharif](https://twitter.com/MaryamNSharif)

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News floating around is that buyer is Burma. I am just wondering that’s the reason for soft stance of Pakistani govt against the genocide of Muslims in there?

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Another lie from Maryam and spread by our panchi bhai. MOU for development of JF-17 was signed in 1995 and during that time BB was the PM of Pakistan.

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Absolutely.

The money is there, its simply being stolen by corrupt traitorous politicians.

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Look at him ffs, so out of his depth :D:D:D

This man is the prime minister of a country which is amongst the strongest militaries in the world. Just wow.