Good people are found in any community and religion.
When Islam was revealed to the Prophet PBUH he had to deal with tremondous amount of opposition. He was not crucified like Issa Ibne Mariyam was...... but he and his followers were warned by this Iyaate-Mubarekah.
*If anyone has any doubt about muslims and Islam being peaceful then they are for sure misguiged. *
Islam means being peaceful and 99.99999999% muslims are peaceful and abide the laws of land wherever the are.
According to your statistics, that would mean if 99.99999999 are peaceful, then only 15 Muslims are non-peaceful, if there are 1.5 billion muslims
Jews are ok... Msot that I know are of the secular variety...
The conservative Jews get upset if you stand to long in their neighborhoods....
Have seperate schools, and genrally dont mingle with any of the other minorities.
There are some relations between Jews and Muslims in Brooklyn, but not that significant.
egads, why can't you make such audacious posts in WA? it needs some jazzin up. but the tit for tat of rebuilding places of worship pales in comparison to the ancestral homeland issue for the first muslims. the palestinians have more been on the receiving end of bad and misplaced violent policies of her supposed benefactors than by any re-establishment of the Jewish nation. After all, if they weren't barred from the holy lands of the newest muslims, they could be occupying arabia. then maybe muslims could be helping build synagogues in medina.
not sure what you mean here seminole.. what is the ancestral homeland issue for the first muslims? and who barred the palestinians (or did you mean the jews, if so what does that mean?) from occupying arabia?
re the floundering WA... i try.. i opened a thread in WA the other day, a rarity for me. but i guess the new generation has taken over, and they like to talk about India
Whenever I hear of any such incident, the verse of Quran comes to my mind. Jews and Christians can never be your friend. So we should be nice and promote peace with them but also remain carefull to protect ourselves from all possible " Sazishein"
The ayahs say never take non believers as your friend instead of believers. In Tafseer Ibn Kathir in tafseer of these ayah:
Allah forbids His believing servants from taking the disbelievers as friends instead of the believers. This includes being friends and associates of the disbelievers, advising them, being intimate with them and exposing the secrets of the believers to them.
So if the believers are mass murdering madmen wrapped in sheikh's clothing, take them as friends over pious, peace loving non believers. Really, this Muslim-centric myopia is as perplexing as it is ignorant and insulting.
So if the believers are mass murdering madmen wrapped in sheikh's clothing, take them as friends over pious, peace loving non believers. Really, this Muslim-centric myopia is as perplexing as it is ignorant and insulting.
Sorry to differ but believers can't kill innocents.
so then why are you living in a land of disbelievers called England?
wouldn't you prefer you live with your muslim brethren in countries such as Saudi Arabia, Iran, Egypt, Pakistan where you can spend the entire day making up conspiracy theories and no one will laugh at you
Why is it a simple positive story about cooperation and brotherhood and realizing the similarities that we face as minority religons comes into a bashing threadD????
so then why are you living in a land of disbelievers called England?
wouldn't you prefer you live with your muslim brethren in countries such as Saudi Arabia, Iran, Egypt, Pakistan where you can spend the entire day making up conspiracy theories and no one will laugh at you
your post is totally off the topic so no comment.
PS: muslims and non muslims have been living together for hundreds of years peacefully.
Sorry to differ but believers can't kill innocents.
You have just kicked a lot of people out of the fold of Islam. Please define "believers". Al qaeda calims to be belivers. The Taliban profess to be following the literal, Muhammed-inspired Islamic way of life. Saddam said he was a believer as he was gassing thousands of fellow believers. Was Mohammed Bouyeri, who killed Theo van Gogh in cold blood, a believer?
^I don't have the right to judge who's a believer and who's not but whoever kills innocent people is a misguided person.
You already judged when you said a believer can't kill an innocent. You threw thousands of Muslims from the fold of Isam.
Funny how you *think *you can't judge who is a believer but you can easily judge that non Muslims can't be trusted or be your friends. As if Muslims are the only good people in this world.
The ayahs say never take non believers as your friend instead of believers.In Tafseer Ibn Kathir in tafseer of these ayah:
Allah forbids His believing servants from taking the disbelievers as friends instead of the believers. This includes being friends and associates of the disbelievers, advising them, being intimate with them and exposing the secrets of the believers to them.
as merc2k said..why u r living in land of disbelievers? why u r paying tax to a goverment which is having a so called war against believers(Taliban,Al queda)??
You have just kicked a lot of people out of the fold of Islam. Please define "believers". Al qaeda calims to be belivers. The Taliban profess to be following the literal, Muhammed-inspired Islamic way of life. Saddam said he was a believer as he was gassing thousands of fellow believers. Was Mohammed Bouyeri, who killed Theo van Gogh in cold blood, a believer?
The concept of a believer is defined clearly in the Quran, as well as many factors which render one as an unbeliever. Why don't you read/research the Quran & Hadeeth to see what makes one a believer/disbeliever. You choose to believe that these (mentioned) terrorist groups are believers, and at the same time you are asking us what a believer is. How ignorant can you get? Do some research yourself!
so then why are you living in a land of disbelievers called England?
wouldn't you prefer you live with your muslim brethren in countries such as Saudi Arabia, Iran, Egypt, Pakistan where you can spend the entire day making up conspiracy theories and no one will laugh at you
So if non-Muslims conspire against Muslims, we should unthinkingly join them?
You already judged when you said a believer can't kill an innocent. You threw thousands of Muslims from the fold of Isam.
Funny how you *think *you can't judge who is a believer but you can easily judge that non Muslims can't be trusted or be your friends. As if Muslims are the only good people in this world.
No, we're not. But if Muslims are bending over to befriend non-Muslims for whatever reason, at the expense of other Muslims...then they're not *good *people.