Jealousy

Jealousy/Envy.. of material to spiritual success. The prophet (pbuh) says “Jealousy devours good deeds like fire devours wood

Why?! Is it because lack of understanding of deen? Lack of imaan? Love for this world?

Final question, don’t get me wrong here. Why is it prevalent in women?

Your thoughts? Examples you’d like to share from which we can draw some benefit?

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I think its a common human behavior and it comes with possessiveness and attachment with certain thing . Once you own that thing , then you feel like that no one else should have it or you just feel bad about other person having something that you don't have . It can be money , status in society , a lover etc .

I won't relate it directly with deen , as I said it is a human behavior and common in all religions . It does go with common ethics and norms of society . It has lot to do with the upbringing of a person . If you were brought up in a family where you see your parent giving out charity and helping others , then of course you will adopt that habit and will have a giving personality . But if not , then you'll be more possessive of your wealth and not open toward others .

Islam do lay down the ground rules for us , but like any other thing its just how much we follow it .

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I think jealousy is caused by insecurity. Women tend to be ffar more insecure than guys - about how attractive we are, about how attracctiver OTHERS are, about who does things better than us. So this insecurity naturally breeds jealousy wheither real or imagined.

When a wife is very secure in the knowledge of her husband's love, there is much less jeslousy. Husbands sometimes dont understand the importance of making their wives feel important to them. When they do, jealousy rarely rears its ugly head. I laugh at my hubby when he sees a gorgeous female walking down the street and his jaw just drops. I realize that he's just admiring something beautiful but not wishing to have it for himself. If I were less secure in the knowledge of his love for me then sure I'd get pretty pissed at him.

Examples can be many. But it would make us all hypocrites to quote examples of "other" people's jealous attitudes and actions.............when we ALL have been jealous ourselves at various points throughout life. We're human.....we're not perfect. Allah has created us with negative qualities like anger and jealousy and greed. But at the same time He has also blessed us with aql and a CONSCEINCE to help us realize when we're veering off the right path and the potential to make amends and correct ourselves.

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Good informative posts guys. Thanks.

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Jealousy is bad. Being envious is not.
Men may be equally jealous but do not show this emotion. Job rivalry, back biting in subtle way (shaking hands with the rival person, smiling at him and yet very jealous), pushing forward one's own agenda is not uncommon in men. In fact some of the professional rivalry in men is even more dangerous and hurtful for other people than domestic jealosy shown by women.

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I think some jealousy exists in every person. It is up to them to CONTROL it though. Shouldn't dwell on it. Allah gives to whom he will, your jealousy won't make you get what it is that you envy.

I agree with M3, if a wife is secure in the knowledge that her husband loves her, she will be less jealous than others. Also, husbands don't always know that their wives are not secure in this knowledge.

RV - Excellent post.

Bro, being envious as equally bad!

And form the evil of the envier when envies” - surah falaq

jealousy is a part of human nature just like anger, but it should not be taken to the extreme. I see extreme jealousy as being selfish and ungrateful as times- so yes, a lack of love for this world or unappreciation for what Allah (SWT) has provided. I don't know if you can label that as lack of understanding deen or imaan.

I don't know. I'm honestly not much of a jealous person and it annoys me when I come across other women who are jealous of others. The ones that are like that are usually jealous of wealth, those who marry rich, have the big house, nice cars, loving husband, etc. I don't understand why people can't just say MashAllah and move on. The other form of jealousy I might see is in academics; maybe parents are responsible for that.

Well, Bahi sahab! Since I guess it is still within the boundary of the topic so let me explain.

The translation in this video is incorrect…with the understanding that there is a difference between jealousy and envy.

It is a slight difference but with a strong difference in terms of being good or bad.

What Haasid in arabic word in Quran means is really jealousy.

Jealouisy means someone is not happy for someone else’s achievements and may even has plan to cause harm to that person.

Envy simply means longing to have something other has achieved. And the person may be happy for other person.

In Urdu it is called “Rashk” not 'Hasad". Also envy does not mean that the person has any intention or wish that other person should not have gotten the good achievement.

Hope ths clarifies what I wrote earlier. I wrote that post with full understanding. :slight_smile:

Here is something for support I just found for you.

Envy | Define Envy at Dictionary.com

1.** enviousness.** Envy and jealousy are very close in meaning. Envy denotes a **longing **to possess something awarded to or achieved by another: to feel envy when a friend inherits a fortune. Jealousy, on the other hand, denotes a feeling of resentment that another has gained something that one more rightfully deserves:

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Ae Allah why I don't have what others have= Hasad

Ae Allah give me what others have ~ Envy

Ok I think this is an issue due to translation..

The translations mention it is envy which is mentioned in the surah. For example

YUSUFALI: And from the mischief of the envious one as he practises envy.
PICKTHAL: And from the evil of the envier when he envieth.
SHAKIR: And from the evil of the envious when he envies

and all the Ulema I have read, they translate “Hasad” as envy. And the one you’re referring to, where you would want something your friend has without the intention of causing harm to your friend, Ulema say that that’s known as “Ghibtah” which is permissible.

=)

I am not going to say I am better than those three translators, but I presented my position with explanation as it can be found in dictionaries and day to day use of these words in both English and Urdu.

Jalan=Hasad, and they are not the same as "Rashk".

Yes, 'Ghibtah' means envy and not jealousy or hasad. Ghibtah is permissible in islam. There are hadiths on it.

Thanks. :)

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^the arabic word(in Quran) is translated in to english and the most suitable one or rather the one most befitting the sentence is envy(whatever it means according to the dictionary)...and so to envy is a bad thing...and in my opinion to wish for something is our haq but to wish for something that belongs to someone else or that which someone has it is wrong...why not wish for the thing rather than long for that thing which someone has....not sure if my explanation is clear to you/readers...

I am sorry you are not correct here.

It is perfectly acceptable to ask something which other has without malice or bad wishes for other.

Please read this: Hope you will get the answer. :slight_smile:
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Islam permits Ghibtah**
**What Islam permits in contrast to Hasad (destructive jealousy) is Ghibtah (envy that is free from malice), which means neither loving the loss of the blessing nor hating for it to remain with the person, but desiring the same for oneself without the removal of the blessing from others. **

Jealousy and its Cures