Jay Dev - Raam Raam

Reading Bano Qudsia’s novel ‘Shehr e Lazawal, Abad Weerane’ nowadays. There is a charcter of Muslim Doctor who got transferred from Amritsar to Kangda’s hilly areas during British era.

The writer while describing the characters went on to describe the culture and history of the Rajputs of the area including life of Raja Sansaar. The writer tells us about the difference of culture, while interacting between people from different status. As per the writer, when two Rajas of same status met they used to salute as ‘Jay Dev’ and when the Rajas of different status met they salute as ‘Raam Raam’. There was no concept of saluting common men.

What do you think is this practice still prevalent in our societies as well?

I’ve also watched in some movies / dramas that people from different areas salute differently. Like in Gujraat they say ‘Jay Shri Krishna’, in South India or Punjab ‘Jay Mata di’. Also heard ‘Jay Bhole Nath’.

Ram ram was common salutation among marathi hindus.
Other was namashkar...

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Do you that this Namaskar / Namaste and word Namaz had common origin?

No brother and I do not accept this theory because namaz is a farsi word and namaste is sanskrit.though word nam means to worship or prostration.

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You are right, although the languages are different, but the meaning is almost the same.

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The word namaz or namaaz is used in modern Persian to mean prayer. It is derived from namazh, in turn derived from the Middle Persian namaach, a word with roots in the Avestan nemangh. Interestingly, in Avestan nemase-te means 'reverence to you'. Compare with Hindi namaste from Vedic Sanskrit namas-te meaning 'honouring-you'.
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Back to the topic, which communities used 'Jay Mata di', 'Jay Bhole Nath'? I think Bhole Nath refers to Hanuman ji, so that might be in UP?

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Namah te,Namah is highest respect, and te means to you people in sanskrit:), Namaskar, is mostly prostrating in respect like Yoga of Suryanamaskar:)

Punjabis speak Jay Mata Dee, UP walas say Raam Raam in poorab, western UP is Jai radhekrishna, Bum Bum Bhole is used around Allahabad/Varanasi:). Hanuman is mostly hailed as Jai bajrang bali, Hanuman is 11th Avtaar of bholenath:)

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What about Jay Ganesh? Used by Maratathi? Isn't there any salutation for Seeta Maya?

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Ganesh is mostly deccan-vidarbh deity. Ganesh Chaturthi is huge in this region:), Then salutations are not strictly region specific, people say Ram Ram or sometimes JaiSiyaRam:), Rajasthanis speak Jai BhaironNath:)

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Jay Bhairon Nath reminds me Suwargbashi Amresh Puri in Nigina :D

What about salutation in Sikh community? Do they refer Gurus?

As much I know sikh salutation is
Sat sree Akal

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Amrish puri was one great actor, Amitabh Bacchan would have remained uncontested if he wouldn't have this villain:), Now our industry has no great villain except Prakash Raj:)

Sikhs say Sat Sri Akal literally Victory to God, often spoken as Sasriyakal. now there is joke even about it as well:D

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Do share that joke in Gali wala thread :D

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It is not that type joke:D
Hindi teacher :Kaal(tenses) kitne prakaar(types) ke hote hain
Sardar: Madam, Char prakaar ke!!
teacher: :confused: which are those??
Sardar: Bhootkaal(past tense), Vartman kaal(present tense), BhavishyaKaal(future tense) Aur Sasriyakaal:D

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But isn't this 'Wahe guru ji' a salutation?

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Mostly used in Shabad Kirtan, or used to hail him in more militant sloganeering like Wahe Guru ji da Khalsa, Wahe Guruji di fateh:)

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Whats Shabad Kirtan :konfused:

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Regular prayers that are sung in Gurdawaras:)

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OK normally Muslims follow Assalam O Alaikum ( :salam: ) as a salutation, but there are also areas where Aadab Arz hai, Tasleemaat are used. It is assumed that initially the same was developed in areas where Muslims lived with people from other religions (Hindu, etc) and as per school of thoughts you can’t say Salam (peace) to Non- Muslims :smiley: Thats why this Adab Arz, etc came into being.

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in Hyderabad they say "Aur kya chalra ustaad:D"

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In Sindh they say like ’ Sain Muhnija, Kehra haal aahin’ :slight_smile: There is also a tradition in Sindhi Shias to say ’ Ya Ali Madad - Mola Ali Madad’ instead of saying :salam: