You mean involved in supporting Taliban? Yes. That's correct. This is why JI can not say that terrorism is only a reaction to American presence.
Having said that, I guess I am missing your point...
I am agreeing with you, I only mentioned that JI's involvement in Afghanistan goes far beyond 90s. American presence definitely fuels the fire, so they do need to leave the region alone.
JeI is a front for Islamic Terrorism.
It needs to banned from Pakistan and all its members jailed.
We need a purge in Pakistan similar to 1930's Russia.
I will say it again, JI is nothing but a tool. We don't need to purge JI but the establishment which used (and still uses) JI to achieve their goals. It was military/intelligence which used JI to recruit militants to fight different wars, and they still know how to pull their strings/stop funding and choke the recruitment. Jailing JI? Do you know what you are talking about here?
I don't want to defend Wahabis, but Brelvis, Shias and every other sect thinks of other sects as out of Islamic fold too, so they are not any different.
And if I only cited one or two attacks on Deobandi masajid doesn't meant that was the full list of attacks on Deobandi masajid.
The difference between the two is that the deobandi/wahabies are trying to impose their version by force.
I will say it again, JI is nothing but a tool. We don't need to purge JI but the establishment which used (and still uses) JI to achieve their goals. It was military/intelligence which used JI to recruit militants to fight different wars, and they still know how to pull their strings/stop funding and choke the recruitment. Jailing JI? Do you know what you are talking about here?
JI was used by Zia in 1980's to further his agenda and strengthen his grip militarily on the country.
The problem is that JI is no longer under the control of the Army but has turned into a Frankenstein monster which the Army cannot control.
Its leadership needs to be decapitated.
they are people who have strong connection to their people and took it upon themselves to bring peace to that lawless place.
You again revert to the same lie inculcated by Taliban about "bringing peace". Even though you yourself admitted earlier that the real aim was to impose un-Islamic shariah on Afghanistan.
And if these fanatics had "strong connection to their people" then why was there fighting with Northern Alliance? It obviously shows how lame this excuse is.
The real aim of khariji movement was to impose their brand of violent shariah upon Muslims. If that was not the case then they would not have fought Northern Alliance. Nor would they have massacred non-kharijis in Pakistan.
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and people like you are against any establishment of an Islamic state.
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People like me say that it was no Islam in the first place.
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they don't need your petty arguments and flawed definitions of Islamic state to do what they want.
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That's just khariji opinion about every non-khariji.
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2- violent extremism is just a term used for people who don't comply with modern technology.
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Talibanic kharijis blowing themselves up in the middle of a juloos and in masajid is nothing but violent extremism.
There is no solution to violent anti-Islam fasadi kharijis except for them to be crushed. Insha Allah.
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3- I am not going to apologize because in many of your posts you mention a connection between deobandis and TTP,
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I said that kharijis have been attacking everyone except deobandis. Whether you like it or not, that is a fact.
And even if you don't agree with it, you had no right to put your own words and present them as mine. Do you even know what "quotation" means? Words in quotations are supposed to be the words of the person they are referred to.
The reader would assume that these exact words were used by that person.
Do I really need to explain this?
You again revert to the same lie inculcated by Taliban about "bringing peace". Even though you yourself admitted earlier that the real aim was to impose un-Islamic shariah on Afghanistan. And if these fanatics had "strong connection to their people" then why was there fighting with Northern Alliance? It obviously shows how lame this excuse is.
The real aim of khariji movement was to impose their brand of violent shariah upon Muslims. If that was not the case then they would not have fought Northern Alliance. Nor would they have massacred non-kharijis in Pakistan.
Again brainwashed khoji at it again. Doesn't know the difference between sharia and communism. taliban and northern alliance. keep on spewing your ignorance.
People like me say that it was no Islam in the first place.
That's just khariji opinion about every non-khariji.
Talibanic kharijis blowing themselves up in the middle of a juloos and in masajid is nothing but violent extremism. There is no solution to violent anti-Islam fasadi kharijis except for them to be crushed. Insha Allah.
I said that kharijis have been attacking everyone except deobandis. Whether you like it or not, that is a fact.
And even if you don't agree with it, you had no right to put your own words and present them as mine. Do you even know what "quotation" means? Words in quotations are supposed to be the words of the person they are referred to. The reader would assume that these exact words were used by that person. Do I really need to explain this?
Nice, keep posting, your true self is coming to light. Lame duck excuses. Your hatred is shown all over the board, though some chose not to comment on it. I will continue to.
The difference between the two is that the deobandi/wahabies are trying to impose their version by force.
Not "deobandis/wahabis", rather our military/establishment wants this version so they hired militants.
JI was used by Zia in 1980's to further his agenda and strengthen his grip militarily on the country.
The problem is that JI is no longer under the control of the Army but has turned into a Frankenstein monster which the Army cannot control.
Its leadership needs to be decapitated.
Zia created MQM to cut off JI's strength. JI was hired only to recruit foot-soldiers. JI can still be taken apart (esp for recruitment purposes), its upto ISI/establishment to decide. First our military/establishment needs to decide whether we need to support Taliban of Afghanistan or not, once that is decided then they can pull out knives for JI/TTP etc. And BTW, JUI and other organizations also need to be checked not just JI.