Mutehida Quami Movt. has decided to sit in the opposition leaving its alliance with PML (Q) as what was promised to them was not being provided (as per Mr. Farooq Sattar). So now the 17 seats that they brought with them and which were vital in getting Mr. Jamali the 172 seats to be the PM are now going to belong to the opposition and they intend to cast a no confidence vote against Mr. Jamali. So what is next now???
I think Mr. Jamali will survive, because there are many PPPPP… still left in the parliament.
Since the collapse of the left (socialist movement) PPP has lost its ideological base, so its heading for a natural death. And PML Q has no ideological basis at all so they will be willing to accept anyone as long as they can breath… i mean vote for them in the parliament.
and whats this postponment thing…let democracy take its shape
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Mr. 4_Ever,
No need to worry about Jamali. He was never elected on the boring democratic principles of parliamentary strength of his party and allies in the first place. He was brought in by the tactics of a dictator and will stay as long as the dictator wishes.
That said, I think the MQM is just playing hard to get to get more concessions. So the government maynot fall because of this game. But that's the price you pay for making allies such as these.
Buddy, you just said the PPP is dying, is that why it obtained the largest number of votes in Pakistan, keeping in mind it did not contest as a ‘Kings Party’… Those PPPPP lotas are few in number, and they wouldnt have won without a PPP ticket. Changing loyalties later is a disgusting act, be it PML or PPP.
We just have to hope this govt can get thru the alloted five years, thru hook or crook... That will be a major mile stone in Pakistani History.
not for long going by what Musharraf said - 'he hopes' Jamali will complete term and set a record! his words, not mine
Man's activities are based on rewards. As long as Jamali keeps rewarding them, he may stay in power. :)
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Man's activities are based on rewards. As long as Jamali keeps rewarding them, he may stay in power. :)
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shouldn't it be the otherway around? rewads as the consequence to activities?
http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=1830704
Pakistan ‘House of Cards’ Government Seeks Allies
Sun December 1, 2002 03:48 AM ET
By Mike Collett-White
ISLAMABAD (Reuters) - Seven weeks after Pakistan’s general election, the new government is being likened to a house of cards – standing, but only just.
The pro-military Pakistan Muslim League Quaid-e-Azam (PML-QA) remains the key playmaker, and its candidate for prime minister squeezed through last week with a one-vote majority.
But that was only achieved with the help of smaller parties and 10 defectors from the anti-military Pakistan People’s Party (PPP) led by exiled former Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto.
It did not take long for the first crisis to emerge.
The Muttahida Qaumi Movement (MQM), based in the southern port city of Karachi, withdrew the support of its 16 parliamentarians on Wednesday, forcing Prime Minister Mir Zafarullah Khan Jamali to scrabble around for new friends.
He faces a mandatory confidence vote in parliament within two months of his investiture.
On Sunday he was seeking to bring in a hardline Islamic coalition, which posted huge gains in the October 10 poll by tapping fierce anti-U.S. sentiment in some areas of Pakistan triggered by the attacks on neighboring Afghanistan.
The Muttahida Majlis-a-Amal (MMA) Islamic coalition, which numbers pro-Taliban clerics among its leaders, won 60 seats, and its possible role in government has raised concern that it may seek to block the U.S.-led hunt for al Qaeda remnants in remote Pakistani border regions.
But while the pro-military PML-QA and the Islamic alliance have agreed to share power in Baluchistan province, hurdles remain on a national level.
The Islamic alliance insists President Pervez Musharraf stands down as army chief, waives his right to sack parliament and disbands the National Security Council set up to oversee key policy decisions.
“If all these conditions are met, the MMA’s Supreme Council will decide whether we should enter into a coalition with the government,” Liaquat Baluch, deputy head of the Jamaat-e-Islami party, which is in the alliance, told Reuters late on Saturday.
HOSTAGE TO SMALLER GROUPS
Jamali’s first week in power has shown how precarious his position is. His pro-military party won 118 seats in the 342-seat National Assembly, well short of a majority. Bhutto’s PPP was the second largest with 81 seats.
In return for the PPP defections, three key ministries – interior, defense and petroleum – went to their candidates.
Should the Islamic alliance agree to join the coalition, the PPP members may be stripped of their posts, commentators have predicted.
Jamali’s government faces imminent collapse after the MQM withdrew its support, saying that promises from the center to support it in a local dispute in Karachi had not been fulfilled.
However, the MQM may well decide to rejoin Jamali if it gets a share of power in the Sindh provincial assembly, which has yet to convene.
The largest party in that assembly is the PPP, but many see the hand of Musharraf behind efforts to cobble together a coalition to sideline his arch-enemy Bhutto.
“The assembly session has been postponed only because rulers have failed to come up with a workable coalition,” wrote the Dawn in an editorial. “This is absurd.”
Musharraf denies he is meddling in politics. But without a behind-the-scenes guiding hand Jamali’s job of keeping together the government and ending military rule could be made harder.
“There is a concern this government will have a lot of trouble getting legislation through,” said a Western diplomat in Islamabad. “Jamali has the backing of President Musharraf and that is the ace card which will act as a force.”
That may not be unwelcome news in Western capitals.
While calling for an end to military rule three years after Musharraf took power, Western countries see him as a key partner in the U.S. war on terror after he backed the Afghan campaign and allowed U.S. agents to hunt al Qaeda in Pakistan.
That support is seen as even more crucial now that the anti-U.S. Islamic alliance has won power in one of the two provinces bordering Afghanistan and taken a share of power in the other.
Can anybody tell me something about Jamali? Is he any sort of statesman, what sort of background he has? Is he worthy of the post of PM (even by Pakistani standards)?
MQM, who called elections rigged, now claiming majority.
KARACHI, Dec 9: With only two days left for the Sindh assembly’s inaugural session, the Muttahida Qaumi Movement has claimed it has mustered enough support to form a government in the province.
The deputy convener of the MQM’s coordination committee, Nasreen Jaleel, said on Monday that as of now her party had the required majority in the House. But the situation is not that comfortable in the regime-backed constellation as differences between the PML-Q and other GNA components had become critical over candidates for the top slot.
The situation compelled Chaudhry Shujaat Hussain of the PML-Q to fly into the metropolis to overcome the friction which may jeopardize efforts of the King’s party not to give the PPP any chance to form a government in its own bastion.
**Chaudhry Shujaat is also expected to meet the MQM leaders and persuade them to agree to a consensus candidate and reconsider the nomination of Syed Sardar Ahmed.
However, the MQM’s Nasreen Jaleel recalled that it had earlier been agreed upon between the MQM and GNA that the two sides would field a consensus candidate for the slot of cheif minister. She indicated that since the GNA continued to insist on its candidate which was not acceptable to Pir Pagara, the MQM and PML-F reached an understanding on a common candidate. **
She referred to the rapidly changing political situation in the province owing to the MQM’s decision to sit on the opposition benches and, later, reverting to its earlier position and said that the MQM was now determined to win the top slot for its candidate Syed Sardar Ahmed.
“If the GNA is interested in becoming a coalition partner, it will have to accept the MQM’s pivotal position,” she declared.
Nasreen Jaleel said: **“If the present strength of the House is considered as 163, then an MQM-led government will be in a comfortable position.” **
Meanwhile, the provincial parliamentary party of the PPP Parliamentarians met at the residence of its leader, Nisar Khuhro, and evolved a strategy for the forthcoming assembly session.
For how long? It depends on Jamali's political skils for the betterment of the people of Pakistan. :)
Wahi hoga jo manzoor-e musharraf hoga.
well said deekay.....
To get rid of this puppet, we need to first get rid of the dictator.
Notta chance in Hell, specially for PPPPPPPP 
what diff does it make? if it's not jamali, it's kamali or a lamali or a mamali! puppet muppet same diff!
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The skills have been proven already. The only person, to be a head of Pakistan, can speak local languages, Sindhi, Punjabi, Baluchi, Pushto, along with Urdu and English.
Ain't that COOL? ;)
Inshallah, he will lead Pakistanis in a great prosper way!
very - particularly english.
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very - particularly english.
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Yeppers!