"It's all about alcohol"

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Perhaps parties are the answer after all, Mao Chapman, Friday Times

The venue was visible a mile away. Powerful searchlights turned skywards and roaming the clouds in irregular arcs cast long fingers of light into the night’s haze like luminescent waves for attention. Closer, a heavy and directionless beat from the bass speakers inside seemed part of the air as vehicles disgorged small groups, chattering and sleekly dressed, who thronged towards the doors. Searchlights danced overhead, the bass beat got louder near the entrance, became a swirling world of sound as we crossed the threshold to merge effortlessly with a pulsing, heaving, partying sea. Hundreds of people flooded the darkened room, and what space wasn’t filled by a person was filled with the layered synthetic drumbeats of house music. High on a balcony overlooking the crowd was a strange figure in headphones: the DJ, mixing the music from behind a bank of equipment. Lights and colour played over the walls and crowd and when a flickering strobe took over, the rhythmic movement of limbs, hips and chests became a stilted staccato, incongruously reminiscent of silent 30s Hollywood.

Pick a large city in Europe or the US, or any major city in the world. London? Hamburg, Buenos Aires or Istanbul, perhaps? How about Tokyo or Cleveland? The chances are this kind of scene wouldn’t raise any eyebrows in any of those cities. Big clubs, dance parties and raves have been a part of the social landscape in much of the West and beyond for years now, more popular in some places than others, but very much a staple of youth culture. Even those who don’t go are familiar with the idea. In the UK, despite a brigade of knitted sock-wearing traditionalists mounting a flustered resistance, clubs and large-scale social parties are an accepted part of growing up. But the scene I just described wasn’t in Cleveland, Tokyo or Hamburg. To my surprise, I found it in the sprawling city of Karachi.

After several months in Lahore instilling a rather conservative estimate of the limit of acceptable social behaviour in Pakistan, I felt like I’d stepped into a desi cyberpunk version of the Moulin Rouge. This was something that didn’t fit, that came from abroad, that had got in under the radar somehow. What was it doing in Pakistan? The first impression wasn’t just skin-deep either – the next few hours were as youthfully debauched as any mainstream venue in the UK. Surely this doesn’t really belong in Pakistan, I thought, does it?

Through the eyes of this gora, part of the richness of Pakistan exists in the way everyone, and I mean everyone, has a wonderful enthusiasm for picking out in excruciating detail exactly what problems and people are plaguing the Land of the Pure that day. Whether whispered conspiracy theories, outlandish social reform proposals, or detailed strategic analysis, each man and woman has their own version of “Ah yaar, I’ll tell you what’s wrong with this country…” Every new statement, appointment or hint from Pakistan’s leadership lets loose a torrent of support and criticism, with every development decried in one quarter as much as it is welcomed in another.

A young Punjab landowner recently demonstrated a novel version of this attitude. “It’s all about alcohol,” he said, “once everyone can get alcohol, once everybody’s chill with it, then they’ll socialise, mix, move on. Extremism will be over. Look at Dubai; sorted. They’ll never have the same problems there.” Whether or not one subscribes to his view of the social powers of booze, he made an interesting point. He saw the lack of anywhere for large-scale public socialising as the main barrier to a more tolerant and accepting society. Once that was achieved (in his eyes by legalising plonk and opening bars) then the power of casual, relaxed social interaction would gradually assert itself and the beast of religious extremism would not only be slain, but its ghost exorcised. Standing in that party in Karachi seemed to suggest the idea was at least possible. After all, here was a scene that wouldn’t have been out of place anywhere in the West, where this kind of socialising is ubiquitous. If it exists in Karachi, then why not elsewhere? Is there a reason such things can or should only be enjoyed by the higher reaches of society?

Although the number of people enjoying it seemed to suggest otherwise, perhaps this kind of mass socialising is just alien to Pakistan’s culture, an invasion of Western values which would not be welcomed by Pakistanis. But that seems a silly idea. For a start, the kind of public socialising we’re talking about needn’t be dancing away the small hours to a synthetic soundtrack; there are many people in Western countries who avoid all that and meet friends and strangers in different environments. It needn’t be partying in the music-and-dance sense, but an open public forum for entertainment and interaction could allow a cosmopolitan social mixing that might ease sectarian tension, so the thinking goes.

A public entertainment space has existed in all cultures except where it has been repressed. It is not an evil Western idea to want to gather, Pakistanis seem to want to do it as much as anyone. I have heard few Pakistanis praising Zulfiqar Bhutto or Ziaul Haq for cracking down on those short kurtas and bars and discotheques and fun. Memories of this time still provoke wicked smiles and sparkling eyes from those who enjoyed them. It is true that the modern parties in Karachi might look like events in Manchester or Manhattan, that’s the model they work on. But the transfer of cultures is not a one-way invasion, but an exchange. The massive rise in popularity of fusing subcontinental bhangra rhythms with modern dance music in the UK even says that despite being unable to do so at home, Pakistanis are teaching the rest of the world how to party.

“Karachi is five years ahead of the rest of Pakistan,” someone remarked to me recently. If that is true, then change is in the air. Five or so years ago the children of wealthy families used to wish and plead for family members returning from Dubai to bring McDonald’s burgers with them as a rare treat. Today, great numbers in Pakistan’s cities can gobble Big Macs like there’s no tomorrow. Today, parties like Western clubs make Karachi buzz. In a few short years that may be standard practice. Will that justify predictions of a stable society nurtured in revelry? Probably not on its own, but if accepted as something inherently Pakistani that doesn’t need resisting on cultural grounds, and if encouraged so that people can recreate to the hilt of their inclinations, then maybe a badly-needed and fascinating intra-social dialogue might result.

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My personal comments: A good Guppy friend passed this along to me. i’m hoping for a somewhat constructive discussion. From what i understand in my present position, i doubt very much that this is even a semi-normal aspect to Karachi; i am sure this goes on in very defined circles, not at all something that is common by any means. Is this something though that is becoming, gradually, more of a trend in Karachi? Does anyone have any constructive thoughts regarding the author’s last statement in particular - i can find a few aspects i disagree very strongly about, especially his sweeping generalizations (IMHO) re: this type of interaction with a “stable society”. i am not certain where he gets that from. If the analogy with Dubai was feasible in reality, then Dubai would have more political stability as an offshoot… and that’s not going to happen for as long as Sheikh Zayed and his 14 sons are around to keep the monarchy going.

Anyways, hoping for some constructive personal thoughts regarding this especially perhaps from those who are currently living in Karachi or have lived there for a long period of time.

Karachi has always been the most modern city in Pakistan although I haven’t spent much time there so can’t really give a personal view. I would have thought these are kids from rich families having a good time. Karachi’s got plenty of poor as well so there’s two sides of the coin. Only rich Pakistanis can afford the price of Macdonald’s burgers for example, the rest would have to make do with the cheap and nasty bun kebabs. Actually they’re not bad either :hehe:

It’s up to the society over there to decide what it wants at the end of the day. These kids have all got parents let them worry about it. I’m not sure whether opening bars or alcohol is the answer but Britain has a massive binge drinking problem so my views might be skewed by that. Anyway, the bottom line is that these kids have got access to alcohol whether it’s legally available or not so what’s the big deal? Let them get on with it and authorities in Pakistan should worry about more pressing matters like roads, hospitals, corruption, judiciary etc. That’s what most people there are concerned with I would have thought.

hmmm...Nadia...this is nothing new...and i dont think this is limited to Karachi only...its there in Lahore and Isloo too...there has always been that 'elite' class in the big cities, separated from the mainstream Pakistani public, not religiously conservative, prefers a western lifestyle, etc etc...

islamic preaching only for common people since they cant handle
alcohol or women.

I am conservative when it comes to defining the courses of cultural streams. The author is surely biased to the extent that it has singled out Karachi sponsoring such events while the truth is that its everywhere as mentioned by other people above inclusive of yourself. True that it’s the way of affluent class and they get it the way they want regardless of the cities they live in. Nadia, your concerns about singling out Karachi are valid and I second your opinion that its not Karachi alone. However, the area of my concern is such events don’t augur well for our society owing to the lack of proper education. We may end up in chaos and frustrations as without the education, you don’t have automatic control levers with you to take you back to the desired track!

I am going to agree with much of what was said here. Although I am not rom Karachi, I think I can buy the argument that this occurs in the upper classes. Same would go for Lahore, Islamabad etc.

It is unnerving and disturbing to read this, espicially the alcohol consumption, as I have spent my life being offered and avioding these haram substances, yet in the so called land of the pure, it is gaining popularity. On the other hand, the clubs and the raves thing has probably more to do with the segregation of the sexes and the strict controls of society during the day. I really think we need to loosen up there because these kids are going to find ways to meet the girls/guys.

I witnessed much worse when I was in Pakistan last spring. My "friends" thought that I was into that sort of thing since I was from the US...Eventually they started calling me Mullah from Amrika :)

mentioned things in article are forte' of elite and rich only. its not that easy to get all that stuff. you have to have loads of money and back-up to get into this kind of rubbish. coming from a middle class family. it is not easy to waste 1000+ rupees everyday / every other day to enjoy this life style. :)

Let’s see…the message here is that if you are open to ideas and lifestyles and cultures, you will ultimately benefit. Someone grab me a beer… :k:

no. the message here is that if you are open to WESTERN ideas and lifestyles and cultures, you will ultimately benefit AND will survive the wrath of the west. otherwise you are doomed. muslims today are more inclined to please west and its policies than islam. :slight_smile:

Open to ideas? Ofcourse but carefully!

why is the upper class always so prone to going corrupt nd rebellios and forget all traditions, values and culture?

money=power=corruption=the devil himself

this type of gathering is not only restricted to karachi, it happens in all the major cities of pakistan or any other muslim country, be it karachi or lahore or kabul. and yes its very restricted to upper class population of the city, who try to impress each other by following all the dumb side of the western culture which sometime put even gora to shame.
i wonder y ppl dont follow all the positive side of western culture, such as giving importance to education, cleanliness , follow rules, stand in line!, respect each other's culture. there is always more to western culture than sex and alcohol.

Alcohol destroys you more than reconstruct, regardless by whom its drunk or where!

hmmm...i was thinking abt this more...and i dont think drugs and alcohol r restricted to the higher class either...we have poor people in pakistan who get addicted to drugs and alcohol too...and do other 'immoral and unislamic' activities too...

but just because they are poor and plus their lifestyle cannot be too westernised materially as they are poor, perhaps they go unnoticed...i dunno...

but i think its a cross-society thing...its not a new phenomenon either...

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hmmm...i was thinking abt this more...and i dont think drugs and alcohol r restricted to the higher class either...we have poor people in pakistan who get addicted to drugs and alcohol too...and do other 'immoral and unislamic' activities too...

but just because they are poor and plus their lifestyle cannot be too westernised materially as they are poor, perhaps they go unnoticed...i dunno...

but i think its a cross-society thing...its not a new phenomenon either...
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Absolutely- Alcohol is consumed in all social groupings within Pakistan. There all always stories in the papers of people dying in a village somewhere after drinking poisonous beverages!! There is a group of youngsters in most villages and townships etc who carry out these socially unacceptable activities. So stop slagging off the upper classes.

OK- on the other hand, now that we are slagging off the upper classes of Karachi, one of my friends once told me that in Karachi there are these wife-swapping parties (swingers clubs) that take place in the upper classes. I did not believe him but he was convinced as he had met someone who had stumbled across one such party in a 5 star hotel !!

^ that is just disgusting.

y is it that more people have power and money, the more they tend to do retarded things, become more "evil" ?

I have heard about the swingers clubs, and according to the story I was told, it is not restricted to Karachi alone.

Drinking in Muslim socities (IMHO) as my friend used to say is common in two groups; the zardars and the mazdoors.

salamz..

firstly alcohol in pak has become very easy to get.. go to shadmal in lahore.. and u can purchase swiss made beer cans..

it pretty funny how when ur about to land by plane.. they announce "pak is a muslim country.. alchohol is illegal... and etc"

and yes.. he poor also consume alcohol.. but home made..

some of ma frnds were invited to this party in Gujrat.. and he was sayin tha party ther was much worse then in NYC.. grls throwin themselves...

anyway.. this life style is unaccepted in the open.. but on the inside.. a lot of them want to join.. so there is ur conclusion y tha rich do this crap.. coz ppl want to be like them...

a lot of ppl here who are commentin are from overseas.. and so they know the consequences.. but tha ppl in pak see these things "COOL"

so.. cant say anthin.. may allah give those ppl hidayat

Allah hafiz

this culture always existed, and it has grown more with time depending on the size of a town or city.

name a single remote small town in Pak where alcohal or pros is not available to one who wants it?

it will amaze u you! there are not many places where you cant get this. if its in very town or village it will be within reach.

so people who share this habbit they get together and arrange these kind of parties.