It makes me mad.

A Pakistani was abducted by a secret anti-terrorist force a few months ago. He was detained and supposedly ‘deported’ back to Pakistan. However he has not reached Pakistan and there is no trace of him. Apparantly, he must be in one America’s terrorist prisons such as Guantanamo Bay. The SA government doesn’t know anything, and the Pakistani embassy isn’t saying anythin either. Does this mean the US is policing the world and our national governments cannot even secure the basic human rights of its residents? What is the world coming to. I am so pissed right now. The missing guy’s name is Khalid Rashid if anyone wants to do a google search on the story.

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nothing new. SA...well maybe... but here in Canada such things occured right after 9/11. several ppl were detained by CIA and sent to Syria, where they were tortured for 2-3 years.
Cdn gov't (although had knowledge) failed to free them, until the mounting pressure by 1 of Cdn protested. Took her 2 years of protesting...

This is Western Democracy.

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yeah indiscriminate arrests are happening all over..consider the outrage over the whole reindition issue..and yet I find it hard to believe that much worse isn't happening in Pakistan but goes fairly unreported.

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reindition issue?

It makes me so so sad. :frowning: I mean I dont care whether he’s guilty or not, but hello we’re living in the post-Cold War era, where mysterious abductions should be a thing of the past. Come on man, whatever happened to basic human rights. :mad:

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Now now Zakk, don't toe the party line -- put aside your common sense and beat your chest.

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Yeah Zakk don't 'toe' the party line, you might want to tow it instead though.

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I thought cair suppose to help Muslims with these types of issues.

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I remember going to a CAIR dinner in 2004, where the wife of that one Arab guy who went missing for 2 years, spoke of her ordeal. CAIR did do something in that situation, but at the end of the day I dont know how much difference such organisations can make.

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Folks,

here is the problem with these sentimentals rantings: They only emerge when non-local parties are commiting them. Have local govts. committed such 'atrocities'? Yes. Let's hear some hue & cry for them too.

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how about we start diff threads for them, every issue can not be sidestepped by saying oh it happens elsewhere too.

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bush is a bustard

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take a look at this http://web.amnesty.org/library/Index/ENGAMR511772005?open&of=ENG-USA

and this

Secret fax on CIA sites not a secret, Egypt says http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/01/17/news/egypt.php

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thats y i wasnt allowed to apply to the us fer uni...had to stick wit england...cuz of thse things wer the cia's jus been takin ppl...tho brit mi-6 probably not much diff tho

this kinda discrimination...i had a freind who was rejected by harvard...and is now in cambridge...harvard returned his app without lookin at it cuz he was:

surname: Islam
Religion: islam
fathers job: in the IDB (islamic development bank)
residing in: Saudi arabia
nationality: pakistani

so ya..."perfect terrorist material" eh?? rejected!

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He’s probably in Poland or Romania…

The once defunct torture chambers of Stalin and the KGB have once again been reopened by the CIA for business…

Check out the link…

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does not explain why there are still saudi students joining harvard each year. Maybe he just did not meet the requirements or the competition was tougher for his program that year than it was at cambridge.

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scary init mate?

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Basic human rights?

There are no human rights, its just a term that the western governments use too much when it suits them and ignore it when it doesnt.

You and me have no human rights when it serves againsts the interests of the governments. We are just another number.

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that is so sad :(

May Allah (Swt) bring him home safely soon Ameen.

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bhen kay takkay ...
i hate their policies ..

to them every Muslim is a terrorist

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Wah Jee Wah, ae gal dasso, is it the same as bhen ke dhakkan??