It doesn't get stupider than this!

No wonder the mullacracy is the bane of islam! Following rates as one of the worst things I’ve read…

http://www.gupistan.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=126126#post2010387

But its clear to understand IMO what is said in the tafseer of Sahih Bukhari. i.e as per narrated by hazarat Aaisha r.a
"Volume 1, Book 9, Number 490:
Narrated 'Aisha:

The things which annul the prayers were mentioned before me. They said, “Prayer is annulled by a dog, a donkey and a woman (if they pass in front of the praying people).” I said, “You have made us (i.e. women) dogs. I saw the Prophet praying while I used to lie in my bed between him and the Qibla. Whenever I was in need of something, I would slip away. for I disliked to face him.”..

Re: It doesn’t get stupider than this!

why? please state explicitly?

^ why did she dislike to face him?

Obviously because she (ra) did not want to disturb the Prophet :saw: while he was praying. Thats why she preferred to leave quietly, without causing any distraction.

An explanation of this hadith:

Apparently, there was a discussion between Hazrat A’isha (ra), the wife of the Prophet :saw:, with some Muslims (who were not knowledgeable about religious maters) around what would nullify salat. She told them that she was knowledgeable about such rules. They remarked that when a woman, or a dog, or a donkey passed in front of a praying person, the latter’s prayer was nullified.

She corrected their wrong understanding with a sarcasm (of equating woman with dogs) and said that when the Prophet (S) prayed his tahajjud at her room, her bed (where she lay) was in front him. That is, those Muslims were wrong in their understanding of the rules of nullification of salat: salat is not nullified if a woman (mehrum) is in front of a praying person. Other ahadith that closely follow [in Bukhari] further clarify the matter (see below).

Volume 1, Book 9, Number 491:

Narrated 'Aisha:

The Prophet :saw: used to pray while I was sleeping across in his bed in front of him. Whenever he wanted to pray Witr, he would wake me up and I would pray Witr.

Volume 1, Book 9, Number 492:

Narrated 'Aisha (ra), the wife of the Prophet, “I used to sleep in front of Allah’s Apostle :saw: with my legs opposite his Qibla (facing him); and whenever he prostrated, he pushed my feet and I withdrew them and whenever he stood, I stretched them.” 'Aisha (ra) added, “In those days there were no lamps in the houses.”

Volume 1, Book 9, Number 494:

Narrated 'Aisha: (ra) (the wife of the Prophet) Allah’s Apostle :saw: used to get up at night and pray while I used to lie across between him and the Qibla on his family’s bed.

That's a good explanation of a lot of things (particularly the doubter's doubts_ but doesn't answer my question why SHE disliked facing him?

Read again: Obviously because she (ra) did not want to disturb the Prophet while he was praying. Thats why she preferred to leave quietly, without causing any distraction.

If you are unclear, please go and ask the Imam of your mosque.

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That's a good explanation of a lot of things (particularly the doubter's doubts_ but doesn't answer my question why SHE disliked facing him?
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That's a good explanation of a lot of things (particularly the doubter's doubts_ but doesn't answer my question why SHE disliked facing him?
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Go search for yourself! We do not need to answer you. I would not tolerate any non-Muslim discussing the mothers of the faithful.

Pathetic some people are just pathetic..... Obviously if he was a Muslim he would understand what is Bukhari who is Hazrat Aisha (r.a). But no he wants to put his fregging beak in somebody's religion and make an ass out of himself. Mods Please Remove this Thread as apparently not only he is trying to create a fuss for no reason and also he is playing with the religious beliefs of Muslims.
-Salman

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Read again: **Obviously because she (ra) did not want to disturb the Prophet while he was praying. .
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If he sees her he may get disturbed so she leaves...that's not the same as she disliked facing him, is it?

Anyway, ramys...enough. thanks fortrying. Let's stop here since salman islamabad & co are about issue a fatwa

Folks, :salam:

Please adopt a more polite tone when discussing matters of Islam. Jazak Allah.

If you find yourself unable to contain your anger for some reason, please refrain from posting; instead make wadhu and offer some prayers of forgiveness, because anger is indeed something which is disliked.

If you know the answer to the question, provide it politely. If you don’t know the answer, then don’t post. If you dislike the question, make your dislike known in a polite manner and give reasons. If you give your answer and the other person doesn’t accept it or get it, make a decision whether you will like to persist or just walk away from wasting more time. A verbal rant will never put you in a positive light, and engaging in verbal war of lameness will most likely not earn you any sawaab either. Your aim in such discussions should always be da’waa and thus you should keep in mind the aim of da’waa paramount.

It is the month of Ramadhan, please atleast make an attempt to watch your tongue; and what you type.

Thanks.

I am sorry brother Faisal, but what about guys like Mr. TomSawyer… Their tone becomes quite inappropriate at times (just look at the topic of this thread!). Wouldn’t you give them a warning too? The atmosphere would be much better if they also try to be a bit polite.

Hey Salman & Islamabad - I don't mean for you guys to blow up. peace.

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I am sorry brother Faisal, but what about guys like Mr. TomSawyer... Their tone becomes quite inappropriate at times (just look at the topic of this thread!). Wouldn't you give them a warning too? The atmosphere would be much better if they also try to be a bit polite.
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I am not warning anyone. I am just requesting you guys, simply because you are muslims. Shouldn't our behavior be better than that of non-believer, or do we feel we have to get down to the level of a non-believer (and be insulting) just to be equal?

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*Originally posted by ramyssysIX: *
I am sorry brother Faisal, but what about guys like Mr. TomSawyer... Their tone becomes quite inappropriate at times (just look at the topic of this thread!). Wouldn't you give them a warning too? The atmosphere would be much better if they also try to be a bit polite.

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Much Much agreed.....and Faisal bahi .. Sorry but ........
-Salman

You have answer to everything :rolleyes: . Fine… as muslims and in the respect of ramadaan i will try to get as low as some people.
-Salman

you missed a not.

Guys & dolls - sorry if I set you of.

Faisal, kudos for trying to raise the level of discussion, but can't that be done without indicating a supercilious attitude toward non-believers?

Talk to people in the language they understand

Ali bin Abu Talib

haughty disdain

JazakAllah Faisal Bhai. You are right.