It could be Musharraf-Zardari collaboration

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I am just putting some facts and news together. If you link all the developments of last one year, this could very well be power sharing deal of Zardari and Musharraf.

Musharraf’s double game with US and Jehadiz.

Musharraf increasing his security, lock up in Army house, not taking a slight risk going out, unlike Zia sitting with Rafael in the same plane thinking he will be safe.

Zia also knew of his job being done and days numbered, same with Mush who threw country on the mercy of suicide bombers.

Musharraf’s refusal to talk to BB and NS.

BB’s visit to US and getting support from Washington.

BB giving silly statements allowing US to attach in tribal areas and allowing UN to investigate AQ Khan (which will ofcourse could result in some Generals transported to Guantonamo Bay).

NS rush to Pakistan in September, could be a push by US to pressurise Mush.

BB coming and attacked (by not a suicide bomber) but planted bombs in an abondened car and second in Police mobile (read BB trailor’s statement on Thursday) on Oct 18.

Zardari’s troubled relationship with BB in last year or so.

The fact that BB’s own security was in the hands of some ex-prisoners instead of traditional jiyaalays.

The way the foolish statement by Interior Minister and backtracking.

Zardari refusing autopsy.

News that wound might be the bullets (by gunman in the video or sniper) that were removed and Dr. were shushed. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/story/2007/12/31/ST2007123102506.html?hpid=topnews

Later, within two hours the incident site was power washed, where as mosque in which Sherpao was attacked was investigated in CSI fashion by ivestigator and forensic experts for two days, it was sealed for those two days.

Zardari producing hand written will (not done by family lawyers, uncommon in feudal families), of which only few lines were read by jr. zardari in party meeting. There were slogans for Sanam Bhutto outside Bhutto house at that time and party’s other leaders (Nahid, Malik, Babur Awaan, Raza Rabbani) were in favour of Amin Fahim.

BB making Zardari her successor (knowing his unpopularity in the party and country) and him making his son the chairman and sending him for studies so he could use the party for his personal gains.

Now Amin Fahim can be PM and Zardari the real ruler behind the curtain and Mush securing his 5 more years. In the news and everywhere on the western media, Mush is cornered and pressurized to leave the office also supporting this theory. Moreover Mush and Zardari have lot of things common, specially drinking and women (remember infamous Faryal Gohar, Kashmala Tariq and Mrs. Rashid Qureshi scandals) and Zardari’s flirt nature is well known (he said to have Surrey Palace purchased for his GF, which BB came to know later and was mad at him).

Zardari has shares almost in every sugar mills in Pakistan and will continue to do corruption, this time inline with establishment and Military.

PLEASE, instead of fighting as its going on in other threads, think of these without political affiliation. Can it be possible that an odd pair of Mush-Zardari plotted BB’s murder.

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well interesting read:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/01/05/AR2008010502198.html

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Nothing can be ruled out & as you pointed out ....lots of strange things happened since her murder.

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Dude you have been spending too much time in Tora Bora

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^ I hope someday you will come out of the well you have fallen into. I am no supporter of any political party, dictator or specially any fanatic group. People just don't come on these forums to support a party or ideology. My post is purely based on facts or news items we have been hearing in last year or so. So as an ordinary Pakistani (without having any affiliation or slightest sympathy with any party/group) how do I see the latest political murder of the history of our country.

So can you please take it as is and stop catagorizing ppl based on what they write. Some times, for a second, if we all come out of our shells and think as neutral, it gives you other dimensions of an event or incident, and I kinda do that with everything happen in the world.

Helloooooooooooo
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No. Can you please elaborate and post some details. Sounds interesting. Thanks.

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^ Yes I remember the infamous scandal of Musharraf and Faryal Gohar which I still think is on. Here’s a news item for you

smooth_guy: A lot of things make sense in your post and they do points to the love fest between Musharraf and Zaradari. Allah knows whats behind the scenes but I do believe Zardari has a hand in BB’s murder. About Musharraf its 50/50…you never know to save his kursi he may have gone to that extant.

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My comment was based on your statement that "Mush who threw country on the mercy of suicide bombers". Terrorism and slaughter of the innocent people cannot be justified no matter what the cause. If it didnt work for the Palestinians than its not gonna work for Tallibutts and their ilk. The only people that should be blamed for this evil haraam act of suicide are those that do it and their Masters that work from the shadows. This problem is a global problem that requires a global solution. As for Zadari he will never come to power. Trust.

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Faryal got divorse because of Mush, till 2006 he was paying her visit once a week on regular basis. Kashmala and Begum Br. Rashid Querishi's stories are very common in GHQ and higher military circles. Even proved by strange and frequent meetings of them and incentives that Mush showered on them. You talk about Mush so much, I assumed you would know already. If you know anyone in Pindi's establishment, they will tell you what else is going on in top brass since early 90s.

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smooth, Unless you have some concrete proof, spreading AFWAHEEN related to character of people (specially women) doesn't sound a good idea.

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^ I agree, but the prove (events, meetings and incentives) that people around GHQ talk about are undeniable. There are so many things that I can't talk about here and have kept my lips closed for so long, because it will turn into anti-mush thread as usual, and Mush is not the first general to have these 'shoq'. So in short, there are several things that Mush-Zardari have common.

Also there is a great chance that once things are stablized, one can betray other.

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Very Interesting read.

ON Dec 14, 2006, a full year and more ago, I had said about the rumours circulating at the time that the People’s Party was talking to the then COAS Gen Pervez Musharraf about a certain power-sharing deal: “And what about the establishment’s hatred for the People’s Party; and true to his office, Pervez Musharraf’s hatred of its founder, Zulfikar Ali Bhutto?

“Not once, not twice has he bad-mouthed Bhutto, even in his quite ridiculous ‘book’ he has gone off the deep end referring to him as the ‘worst thing that happened to Pakistan’! Is Benazir all right with that? Does she really think that the destruction of the People’s Party is not the main objective of the establishment? That the latest stratagem is the same old faithful one: to give it power and then throw it out citing corruption and misgovernance, weakening Bhutto’s party even further?

“No, Ms Bhutto, no. Seek rapprochement by all means, but do it in the company of your fellow politicians, under the aegis of a Truth and Reconciliation Commission. After which you must convince the army leadership that it simply has no right to rule the country; that its main duty and task is to guard the country’s physical borders, and to train for the (most unlikely) eventuality that it might fight one day. Indeed, that it behave like the armies of any civilised country.”

Fast forward to Dec 27, 2007, that awful, awful day on which Benazir Bhutto was gunned down by a cool and collected gunman, in broad daylight, and in not too much of a crowd. Er, how, good sirs, did the assassin so easily come within seven or eight feet of Benazir and shoot her dead with two classic assassination shots: one to the head, one to the upper neck? Where were all your spooks good sirs, aka intelligence agents who infest every public gathering, please?

This was Benazir Bhutto, the undisputed leader of millions of Pakistanis and head of the most powerful political family in all the land; a woman who had already been the target of a deadly bombing (I did not say suicide bombing) on the evening of her arrival in Karachi barely two months before her Rawalpindi public appearance. So where were the thousands of spooks aka goons employed by our myriad ‘agencies’?

Where were they on that vile and dreadful day when the two-time prime minister of this luckless country was shot dead with such élan? Or are the goons only meant to shadow civil society protests, taking photographs of and filming the protesters, and helping the Punjab Puls thrash the women, lawyers and students as they are being arrested?

Why were they not there at Liaquat Bagh in their droves?

Consider this too: While Gen (retd) Pervez Musharraf is now admitting, in the face of overwhelming evidence both witnessed and on film, that Benazir was killed by gun-shots he is putting the blame for getting killed on her because she stood up through the sunroof to greet her supporters. He takes no responsibility on to his own shoulders, simply because he has lorded it over us for well on eight very long years now, for bringing the country to its present sorry pass.

Since this was quite obviously a targeted assassination by an organisation that knew exactly what it was doing, is it at all possible that there was only one assassin on the ground to do Benazir in? I would say there were a half-dozen or more of them interspersed along the route she was to take. They were there to kill her that day, and they were going to do it come hell or high water. So where were the goons?Then there is, of course, the matter of the interior ministry ably led by Lt-Gen (retd) Hamid Nawaz and represented publicly by the peerless Cheema. Why did it dissemble and obfuscate and lie if it had nothing to hide? Why did it look so very stupid before the whole world and so very transparent to us when it trotted out the sunroof ‘lever’ theory? Why, indeed, are Nawaz and Cheema still in their jobs?

What is done is done, however. The question to ask is what next, or rather who next? I sent Nawaz Sharif an SMS on the night of Benazir’s assassination: “Please look after yourself; ‘they’ will kill our leaders one by one.” My heart trembles, for popular political leaders are our establishment’s worst nightmare. Indeed, if it is the aim of Al Qaeda/the Taliban to disrupt the electoral process, how come the Chaudhries of Gujrat Sharif have never been targeted?

May the Almighty have mercy on us and on poor old Pakistan.

By the by, who saw the Commando (once a Commando, always a Commando!) addressing foreign journalists the other night? Whilst most of his performance was such that he had them rolling in the aisles with derisive laughter, what took the cake was when he described his four-hat, three-hat; two-hat and one-hat experiences as Pakistan’s head honcho. His harangue is too long and too tiresome to repeat, but what I loved best was when he said if he had not been wearing the two hats of the chief of army staff and the president, the army might have taken its own sweet time to send its engineers to repair the Sukkur Barrage! I mean, what else is there to say? :rotfl:

Except to ask Musharraf once more to realise the extent of the trouble he and his buddies have got the country in to: no atta; no electricity; no gas; no law; no order; the Americans threatening to actually hit targets inside our borders overtly (covert operations we already know about); and an economy about to implode. Can he just go away, please? Please?:halo:

Endpiece: The so-called intercept that the junta is touting as proof that Baitullah Mehsud ordered Benazir’s assassination is pure poppycock and nothing else. Mehsud is innocent enough to say to ‘Maulvi Sahib’: “I am at Makeen, come over, I am at Anwar Shah’s house”?!? And to ask “were they our men”? Er, if he ordered Benazir’s assassination he should know it was his men, what? I believe Baitullah; I do not believe the junta and its quite pathetic, lying minions. Baitullah did not kill Benazir.

The times are too fraught for any stupid Bushisms. Sorry.

P.S. My customary Rs100 rides on the wager that there will be no elections on Feb 18. We are in for rougher weather, my friends.

http://dawn.com/weekly/kamran/kamran.htm

:hmmm:

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Re: Very Interesting read.

This endpiece is written by you?

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U never know that these names like "Anwar Shah" "Maulvi Sahib" are phony names they used in communication as it happen in most of the communications of these terrorists on run.

Its not beyond understanding!