Yes, exactly.
Thank you Sentinel
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PakistaniAbroad
as humans have to consult with Allah on each and every decision we have to make,
What the other brothers have said is guidance not consultation. You supplicate to ask for help and guidance. The decision is then yours after evaluating the pros and cons of all options.
religion says to follow ALLAH's commands ONLY.
The Qur'an says in more than one place "atee Allaha wa atee arRasool". The reason why we are obliged to obey the Prophet (sallallaho alaihe wasallm) is that he was Divinely guided in everything he did, said, or tacitly accepted.
Ijma' is the third source of Islamic Law.
Hence, Qur'an is not the only source. It is the basic source and anything that does not comply with it is not acceptable. But that does not rule out the two other sources.
Your mileage may vary.
In the matters of deen it is not a question of mileage. We are all students and need each other's knowledge to improve. Islaah is the objective.
I tried to go thru all messages, but may be I overlooked. Anyway, Istikhara is not only for 'seeking advice'. If you do get obvious signs, then follow them and still pray Allah for better. If you don't get signs, you do what you think is right and still pray to Allah for better.
Anyway, has anyone seen a Quranic verse regarding 'Istikhara'?
We oughta be Changez like, don't we?
I agree with PakistaniAbroad. Sentinel, would you be so kind to put a reference from the Quran about Istikhara? If the Quran tells us to perform Istikhara, I will apologize and begin this practice.
Please, on the other hand, DON'T bother to put down hadith or so called words of the prophet down as references, if it ain't in the Quran, it ain't necessarily true.
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Originally posted by aahmed:
**I agree with PakistaniAbroad. Sentinel, would you be so kind to put a reference from the Quran about Istikhara? If the Quran tells us to perform Istikhara, I will apologize and begin this practice.
Please, on the other hand, DON'T bother to put down hadith or so called words of the prophet down as references, if it ain't in the Quran, it ain't necessarily true.**
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aahmed! could you please quote an ayat of Quran which says that Fajar has 2 rakaa, Zuhar has 4 rakaa and so on, and also please tell me where Quran says that we have to offer prayers five times a day. Quran only says to muslims offer your prayers, it doesnt mention how to perform the prayers and how many times a day. We need to look into Hadith and actions of Prophet (PBUH) to get these detials.
Thats why Quran says Atte ullah wa Ateel Ur Rasool. Read the answer by FactFinder.
As far as istikhara is concerned, yes its sunnat of Prophet (PBUH), but its not mandatory.
what about conflicting istikharas
Fraudz,
Don't worry, I haven't forgoten your question that you also asked a few days ago.
I will Insha'Allaah be addressing it, as i also have some amendments to make with regards to what i said earlier.
sorry for the delay.
Sentinel.
oAsis, please read my response to Old Man's thread about stoning a pregnant woman.
Salaat is NOTHING new to our religion, which was started by Abraham. Hence Allah has only REMINDED us to offer it.
Times of Salaat can be found in the Qur'an.
btw are you implying that between the departure of the prophet from this life and the time Hadith was compiled (200 yrs apprx) there was no Salaat offered???
Strange becaues my parents taught me Salaat.. I didn't read Hadith.. which peculiarly has no mention of the Propeht saying "This is how you perform Salaat".
About 'obeying the messenger'.. there are places in the qur'an where Allah says 'obey the messenger' about Jesus! so should we also start observing Jesus sunnah??
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O you who believe, you shall obey GOD, and you shall obey the messenger, and those in charge among you...... (4:59)
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by the same token are we now to follow the religious orders of those in charge among us??
Prophets are not supposed to ask people to follow them, but ONLY to follow Allah
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It is not (possible) that a man, to whom is given the Book, and Wisdom, and the prophetic office, should say to people: Be ye my slaves rather than Allah's: on the contrary (He would say) Be ye slaves of Him Who is truly the Cherisher of all:** For ye have taught the Book and ye have studied it earnestly. ** (3:79)
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Now THAT's what the Prophet asks us to 'obey'.. he's taught us the Book and we have to 'obey' his command to study it.
Verily the Prophet never went against Allah's desire and never judged but from the Book of Allah.
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We have sent down to thee the Book in truth, that thou mightest judge between men, as guided by God: so be not (used) as an advocate by those who betray their trust; (4:105)
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These are GOD's revelations that we recite to you truthfully. In which Hadith other than GOD and His revelations do they believe?(45:6)
[This message has been edited by PakistaniAbroad (edited November 15, 2001).]