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33:43 then tells the believers that Allah and Allah's angels "send blessings on the believers" so that Allah can bring the believers out from darkness.
Stop.. Think.
Since Allah and his angels "send their blessings" on those who believe??!! Why are there no "naats" for all those who believe???!!
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I don’t see any problem here. You want to see Naat for the believer
Then Listen to Naat that we have for Prophet, His family and his companions
They are the believer from verse 33:43
Take your time Ammar.
taken from naatsharif.com
listen to #3: Meri tauba (tuu maaf kareyga mere sarey gunnah) (they refer to it being a naat)
listen to ya nabi ya nabi (calling the nabi as if he were living)
listen to ya nabi ham gunahgaron ko (ya nabi ham gunahgaron ko dard e furqat se ab jila dena)
tumhara naam jab (tumhara naam museebat mayn jab leeya hoga hamara bigra huwa kaam bangaya hoga)
jitna deeya mujhe sarkar ne itnee meree auqat naheen (tuu bhee ja uss dar par jahan sab ke bigre bantey hain?? (i mean WHAT THE HECK?!?!) teree taqdeer banana unn ke liye koyii baat naheen)
you can go to alphabetal listings and listen to all these
anyhow hopefully those are enough for now frankly i've heard enough of these.. just disgusting.
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Let me get my two pennies worth here.
I do not listen to na'at and never will. I believe it to be an innovation and a serious one at that. I know people are out there who start slamming my point of view but so be it.
I do not need to hear singing poetry bordering on shirk to strengthen my faith. I will stick to listening to the recitation of the Qur'aan.
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Let me get my two pennies worth here.
I do not listen to na'at and never will. I believe it to be an innovation and a serious one at that. I know people are out there who start slamming my point of view but so be it.
I do not need to hear singing poetry bordering on shirk to strengthen my faith. I will stick to listening to the recitation of the Qur'aan.
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An innovation is something Prophet SAW didn't do. Where Prophet Mohammed SAW used to ask Hassaan bin Sabit R.A to recite Na'at in Masjid-e-Nabwi SAW. Hassaan R.A was a well known poet at that time, and till today we have his work preserved and specially Na'at, which are a classic piece of art in Arabic Litrature.
Also remember 'tala'al badroo alai'naa' Medina's girls singing from the roofs when Prophet SAW entered into the city and how Prophet was delighted by this. Even he stopped Umer R.A to not to stop them doing this because it is sure a Big celebration day for the people of USRAB and for Islam itself.
Smooth Guy
I hear what your'e saying, but there's a difference between Arabic poetry which was prevalent at the time of the Qur'aanic revelation and poetry which overwhelmingly glorifies the Prophet PBUH to a God like status.
This is where my problem lies.
The Qur'aan has asked us to take the middle course and not the extreme. Some people use the naats as a guise and startt blabbering without thinking.
Its not Arabic or Urdu thing but to take the balanced approach regardless in any language. Na'at in Urdu are OK if they don't have any shirkiya words. The spirit of Islam is Tawheed and oneness of Allah SWT and that should not be effected by anything which is in Mustahaib but not faraaid. Na'at is Ok when done to soften our heart and remember Prophet in the way Allah want us to. And why Allah want us to remember him (but in a balanced manner) because in the past Ummah, the believers later start either cursing Prophets or praised to much to a level to do shirk (lke in the case of Uzer and Jesus). Therefore Allah want us to take a middle path, respect and love Prophet SAW more than our parents and anything in the world but not to do shirk or use any words which might make doubts in weaker minds.
I 100% agree with you on how some people are misusing this na'at tradition and in some cases fall into shirk. May Allah give them hidayaat.
yes i have heard many naats which call of prophet SAW as their mola, which is only befitting Allah.
also praising the prophet all u want while not following him is not going to be any good, i have seen so many naat khuaws who show so much love of the prophet SAW but cant just get to follow his command on growing the beard, and keeping the pants above the ankles, dont wanna criticize any one, but those are the commands, and if u love him SAW, u should follow his commands.
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welcome back again ThandayMazaq..
My use of "quotes" should have explained that I'm in the process of explaining something .. I'm as we say 'playing along' with your understanding of the verses.. i'd appreciate if you were a good sport and played along too..
So .. lemme spell it out for you this once... sticking to 33:41, 42 and 43.
ASSUMING Allah and his angels are "sending durood" (the understanding of many including you) on the believers aren't they, the believers worthy enough of being praised by everyone else??
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In verse 33:56 Allah swt instructs the believers to "Sallu alayhi wa sallemo tasleema" for the Nabi saw, whereas we do not find similar intstructions with respect to verse 33:43.
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In the name of Allah, the Compassionate, the Merciful.
033.041 : O ye who believe! Celebrate the praises of Allah, and do this often;
033.042 : And glorify Him morning and evening.
033.043 : He it is Who sends blessings on you, as do His angels, that He may bring you out from the depths of Darkness into Light: and He is Full of Mercy to the Believers.
033.056 : Allah and His angels send blessings on the Prophet: O ye that believe! Send ye blessings on him, and salute him with all respect.**
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In verse 33:56 Allah swt instructs the believers to "Sallu alayhi wa sallemo tasleema" for the Nabi saw, whereas we do not find similar intstructions with respect to verse 33:43.
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In the name of Allah, the Compassionate, the Merciful.
033.041 : O ye who believe! Celebrate the praises of Allah, and do this often;
033.042 : And glorify Him morning and evening.
033.043 : He it is Who sends blessings on you, as do His angels, that He may bring you out from the depths of Darkness into Light: and He is Full of Mercy to the Believers.
033.056 : Allah and His angels send blessings on the Prophet: O ye that believe! Send ye blessings on him, and salute him with all respect.**
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Welcome to the discussion Different.. at least someone who has a higher chance of knowing what they are talking about..
for the sake of the discussion we left out 33:56 and were concentrating on 33:41, 42 and 43
So you say the reason why we don't say Na'ats or send 'durood' on the believers is because we haven't explicitly been told to do so.
So are you still of the belief that yusalli alaikum in 33:43 means "sends blessings on you"?? meaning Allah and His Angels recite something in praise for believers?
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Welcome to the discussion Different.. at least someone who has a higher chance of knowing what they are talking about..
for the sake of the discussion we left out 33:56 and were concentrating on 33:41, 42 and 43
So you say the reason why we don't say Na'ats or send 'durood' on the believers is because we haven't explicitly been told to do so.
So are you still of the belief that yusalli alaikum in 33:43 means "sends blessings on you"?? meaning Allah and His Angels recite something in praise for believers?
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I said that we follow the instructions in verse 33:56, that is to "Sallu alayhi wa sallemo tasleema" for the Nabi saw. We find the way to do it through Hadeeth.
In verse 33:43, Allah explains what type of "Blessings" are sent on the Believers:
In the name of Allah, the Compassionate, the Merciful.
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033.043 : He it is Who sends blessings on you, as do His angels, that He may bring you out from the depths of Darkness into Light: and He is Full of Mercy to the Believers. **
I do not understand the reasoning behind comparing the "usalli alaikum" mentioned in verse 33:43 with the "usalloona alannabi" mentioned in verse 33:56.
Why waist time singing naat when you could recite the Quraan in stead.
Most naat singers sound like goats roaming which turns the words from pleasant to terrible.
Another thing i have noticed about people listening, singing or in favour of naat is that the majority of them is lesser educated. They dont have knowlegde about Islam from Quraan and Hadith but rather from the local moulvi.
Anyway if naat where a part of Islam it would have been practised by other than the barelvies.
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listen to ya nabi ya nabi (calling the nabi as if he were living)
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..."LaIlaha Ilala wa Muhammadan Rasurullah" Do you find this disgusting too?? This is also treating the Prophet as if he is living!!!
"Think not of those who are martyred in the way of Allah as dead. Nay!They are living, finding their sustenance in the presence of their Lord." (Quran 3:169)
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..."LaIlaha Ilala wa Muhammadan Rasurullah" Do you find this disgusting too?? This is also treating the Prophet as if he is living!!!
"Think not of those who are martyred in the way of Allah as dead. Nay!They are living, finding their sustenance in the presence of their Lord." (Quran 3:169)
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La ilaha ilalla wa muhammad ur rasullulah is not referring to the Prophet being alive google :)
And the other ayah is slightly out of context. Yes they are 'alive', but we can not call upon them. We only call upon and invoke Allah.