Israel's vaunted tanks are succumbing to Hezbollah's powerful missiles

Hezbollah is beating the best. :k:

http://www.newspress.com/Top/Article/article.jsp?Section=WORLD&ID=564782087954368126

**Israel’s vaunted tanks are succumbing to Hezbollah’s powerful missiles **

Hezbollah’s sophisticated anti-tank missiles are perhaps the guerrilla group’s deadliest weapon in Lebanon fighting, with their ability to pierce Israel’s most advanced tanks. Experts say this is further evidence that Israel is facing a well-equipped army in this war, not a ragtag militia. Hezbollah has fired Russian-made Metis-M anti-tank missiles and owns European-made Milan missiles, the army confirmed on Friday. In the last two days alone, these missiles have killed seven soldiers and damaged three Israeli-made Merkava tanks - mountains of steel that are vaunted as symbols of Israel’s military might, the army said. Israeli media say most of the 44 soldiers killed in four weeks of fighting were hit by anti-tank missiles. ‘‘They (Hezbollah guerrillas) have some of the most advanced anti-tank missiles in the world,’’ said Yossi Kuperwasser, a senior military intelligence officer who retired earlier this summer. ‘‘This is not a militia, it’s an infantry brigade with all the support units,’’ Kuperwasser said.

Israel contends that Hezbollah gets almost all of its weaponry from Syria and by extension Iran, including its anti-tank missiles. That’s why cutting off the supply chain is essential - and why fighting Hezbollah after it has spent six years building up its arsenal is proving so painful to Israel, officials say. Israel’s Merkava tanks boast massive amounts of armor and lumber and resemble fortresses on tracks. They are built for crew survival, according to Globalsecurity.org, a Washington-based military think tank. Hezbollah celebrates when it destroys one. ‘‘A Zionist armored force tried to advance toward the village of Chihine. The holy warriors confronted it and destroyed two Merkava tanks,’’ the group proclaimed on television Thursday. The Israeli army confirmed two attacks on Merkava tanks that day - one that killed three soldiers and the other killing one. The three soldiers who were killed on Friday were also killed by anti-tank missiles, the army said. It would not say whether the missiles disabled the tanks. ‘‘To the best of my understanding, they (Hezbollah) are as well-equipped as any standing unit in the Syrian or Iranian armies,’’ said Eran Lerman, a retired army colonel and now director of the Israel/Middle East office of the American Jewish Committee. ‘‘This is not a rat-pack guerrilla, this is an organized militia.’’

Besides the anti-tank missiles, Hezbollah is also known to have a powerful rocket-propelled grenade known as the RPG29. These weapons are also smuggled through Syria, an Israeli security official said, and were previously used by Palestinian militants in Gaza to damage tanks. On Friday, Jane’s Defense Weekly, a defense industry magazine, reported that Hezbollah asked Iran for ‘‘a constant supply of weapons’’ to support its operations against Israel. The report cited Western diplomatic sources as saying that Iranian authorities promised Hezbollah a steady supply of weapons ‘‘for the next stage of the confrontation.’’ Top Israeli intelligence officials say they have seen Iranian Revolutionary Guard soldiers on the ground with Hezbollah troops. They say that permission to fire Hezbollah’s longer-range missiles, such as those could reach Tel Aviv, would likely require Iranian go-ahead.

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Shield vs. warhead, warhead usually wins. This was an excellent opportunity to test Pakistani ‘Baktar Shikan’ ATGM. ‘Baktar Shikan’ saw action with the Muslim armed forces in Bosnia where it easily penetrated the front armour of the Serbian M-84 tanks and destroyed them.

Baktar Shikan

Milan is considered as one of the best but the range is only 2 KM

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Look at the international community's quiteness.

I am sure, soon the United Nations and Security council will desolve. They have been rendered meaningless and useless.

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i wrote the wikipedia article on batker-shikan:D

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Nice cut and paste job, keep it up! here is a little better detail..

http://www.pakdef.info/pakmilitary/army/atgm/baktar.html

Here is a video of Baktar Shikan from cobra at night
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6129514441980618102

Baktar Shikan fired at night starts as 1 min 12 sec to 2 minutes 55 sec with 100 percent hit rate :k:

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http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/1107AP_Mideast_Fighting_Hezbollahs_Missiles.html
Missiles neutralizing Israeli tanks :k:

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:smile of little arab man thumping his chest while bombs rain on his cities:

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yes you lil terrorist bombs also rained on millions of innocent vietnam civilians but taste of victory has its won charm.. I hear like before yahahahodi is negotiating prisoner swap..LOL…

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Almost 50 Israeli soldiers have been killed in the last three weeks plus by Hezbollah so I think a lot of Jews will be thumping their chests these days.

Re: Israel's vaunted tanks are succumbing to Hezbollah's powerful missiles

so you are celebrating the deaths of other people

Islam has said, that if you kill one person you are killing all of humanity

Re: Israel's vaunted tanks are succumbing to Hezbollah's powerful missiles

What about IDF terrorist killing hundreds everyday. What has their religion got to say about it.

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The IDF’s supporters are celebrating them killing hundreds of Lebanese every day.

http://www.paklinks.com/gs/showpost.php?p=4307065&postcount=9

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The only ones around here celebrating deaths are you and your cohorts. I don’t want to see any deaths.

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Thank you for providing the original articles on the Baktar Shikan.

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you should remember these words when civilians are killed by US army, IDF too.

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fine but you can see a lot of posters celebrating the deaths of jews and americans

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http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2006-08/09/content_4941782.htm

**11 Israeli soldiers killed in S Lebanon - TV **

Eleven Israeli soldiers were killed in fierce clashes with Hezbollah guerillas in south Lebanon on Wednesday, the pan-Arab al-Jazeera satellite channel reported. The Israeli soldiers were killed during confrontations with Hezbollah guerillas in the Lebanon-Israel border area, said al-Jazeera, without revealing further details. There was no immediate comment from the Israeli army concerning the report. Violence between Israel and Hezbollah erupted on July 12 when Hezbollah guerillas kidnapped two Israeli soldiers and killed eight during cross-border attacks. Israeli troops are carrying out ground operations in south Lebanon and have met with fierce confrontations from Hezbollah fighters. Over 100 Israelis and about 1,000 Lebanese have been killed in the 29 days of fighting.

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http://news.monstersandcritics.com/middleeast/article_1188997.php/Anti-tank_missile_biggest_threat_to_Israel_troops

Anti-tank missile biggest threat to Israel troops

Hezbollah guerrillas using sophisticated anti- tank missiles are proving the biggest threat Israeli ground troops are facing in fighting in south Lebanon, Israeli military officials admit. Exact figures are not available, but a significant number of the 82 Israeli military fatalities since the fighting broke out on July 12, have been caused by anti-tank missiles, not necessarily used against tanks, but fired at buildings in which troops are taking cover, or at groups of soldiers out in the open. ‘It’s a challenge and operationally, we’re working to circumvent it,’ an Israeli army spokesman told Deutsche Presse-Agentur dpa. According to Israeli sources, Hezbollah has - or had when the fighting broke out - tens of thousands of anti-tank missiles of Russian, Iranian and North Korean manufacture, as well as several from other countries. These include the advanced Russian Metis-M, which can fire at ranges of up to two kilometres, and the Kornet, which has a 5.5 kilometre range, unconventional penetration ability, and a double warhead which enables it to penetrate the reactive armour with which Israel’s Merkava main battle tank is equipped. Hezbollah also uses the old Sagger (Malyutak) missile and the American TOW, as well as the RPG-7 rockets.

These missiles, which are fired from positions on hills overlooking Israeli army positions, give Hezbollah an advantage it would not otherwise have were it to fight at close range against highly-trained Israeli troops. According to the Israeli Yediot Ahronot daily, the Israeli army is aware of the gravity of the anti-tank missile threat, and even began to develop special protective measures, but budgetary constraints slowed the development drive. Rafael - Israel’s armament development authority - is developing a sophisticated form of protection, which would destroy an incoming projectile by spraying it with metal particles. Although still in the development stage, tests conducted so far prove it is effective. However, inadequate funding has prevented it from being made operational. For the same reason, a similar system developed by Israel Military Industries is also not yet being used. But these are systems designed to protect armour. So far, there is no protection for troops out in the open, or taking cover in buildings. Which is why Israeli soldiers have now been instructed on which buildings in which for cover, and in which rooms to seek shelter. The main priority is to disperse the troops in a number of buildings, to reduce the casualties in case of a direct hit by an anti-tank missile. But, say some senior Israeli army officers, not every unit has absorbed this lesson.

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Finally Israel admits that dozens of it’s tanks have been destroyed by Hezbollah.

http://www.israelnn.com/news.php3?id=109793

**30 Tanks Wiped Out in Lebanon **

12:01 Aug 11, '06 / 17 Av 5766

IDF officials admit that the biggest surprise of the ongoing war against Hizbullah is the ease by which terrorists have destroyed IDF tanks. At least 30 tanks have been totally destroyed or seriously damaged in bomb and anti-tank rocket attacks involving state-of-the-art Russian anti-tank rockets. About one-half of the military personnel killed in southern Lebanon were inside tanks.