Since we have threads on Bengalis and Pakistanis, Indians and Pakistanis I thought I might contribute too. Why do Israelis hate Muslims so much?
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Its a 2 way thing, Muslims vs Jews .. an old rivalry.
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Why do people hate people so much??
Thats the thing here...you take a look at the bloodiest wars, the grossest violations of human rights over the course of recorded history...and what does it boil down to? Organized religion. THats why I am currently religion-less. I am NOT in any way focusing here on Islam I mean, theres the spanish inquisition and any number of other wars waged for the "betterment"of mankind.
Every religion on the planet preaches tolerance and peace yet in practice, it encourages warfare and bloodshed. Thats not for me. THe thing is, people take their religion to heart and then think it makes them invincible because they are right and everyone else is wrong so that gives them leave to persecute andmurder?
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Thanks for posting guys. I hope meri thread bohot taraki karay.
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One of my closest friends is a Jew. Given, he’s not hard core practising (doesn’t wear the yarmulke or fashion the “peyot” side curls) but he’s a Jew nonetheless.
The history of Muslims vs. Jews goes way back… once upon a time, Muslims and Jews did indeed coexist peacefully and even worked together successfully and moving western society forward (Europe transitioning from the Dark Ages to the Renaissance anyone? 
). Even during the period of time when the Jews were under Muslim rule, Jews, as a people, flourished into positions of high authority. So what happened? Zionism.
The primary cause of conflict today roots back to when, after WW2, the UN (their hand forcefully steered by the Brits??) decided to give a portion of Palestinian land to the Jewish people, thus forcing the expulsion of the Palestinian people from their land. This is the main reason you see conflict between Muslims and Jews in today’s society.
That was the shortest way i could explain it… 
Since we have threads on Bengalis and Pakistanis, Indians and Pakistanis I thought I might contribute too. Why do Israelis hate Muslims so much?
It started with Sarah hating her Husband Ibrahim ES's oldest Son Ismail from his younger Wife Hagira ES!
the rest is history!
Thats the thing here...you take a look at the bloodiest wars, the grossest violations of human rights over the course of recorded history...and what does it boil down to? Organized religion.
I won't deny that organised religion has played it's part in many crimes over the centuries because it has. But what about instances like the two world wars? As far as I'm aware Hitler didn't do what he did in the name of any organised relgion I'm aware of.
It's easy to blame religion, but that's like blaming the communist theory for what Stalin did in The Purges. It all boils down to how religion is interpreted by us, this allows it to be used and abused for selfish interests. That's the problem.
So what happened? Zionism.
The primary cause of conflict today roots back to when, after WW2, the UN (their hand forcefully steered by the Brits??) decided to give a portion of Palestinian land to the Jewish people, thus forcing the expulsion of the Palestinian people from their land. This is the main reason you see conflict between Muslims and Jews in today's society.
That pretty much sums it all up.
I went to a Jewish primary school, I grew up with Jews, some of my best friends as a child were Jews. The similarities and parallels between the two faiths is extraordinary. Judaism isn't the problem but Zionism, and everything it stands for, is.
Why do people hate people so much??
Thats the thing here...you take a look at the bloodiest wars, the grossest violations of human rights over the course of recorded history...and what does it boil down to? Organized religion. THats why I am currently religion-less. I am NOT in any way focusing here on Islam I mean, theres the spanish inquisition and any number of other wars waged for the "betterment"of mankind.
Every religion on the planet preaches tolerance and peace yet in practice, it encourages warfare and bloodshed. Thats not for me. THe thing is, people take their religion to heart and then think it makes them invincible because they are right and everyone else is wrong so that gives them leave to persecute andmurder?
I disagree.
Did the British use religion as basis to slaughter millions all over the world including Asia(India), Australia, Caribbean, Americas? No, it was all about power/greed/=resources. Did America use religion to slaughter the Red Indians, Japanese, 20 million slaves from Africa and involved in a war/occupying every year of her existence* + her own civil war? Did Hitler use religion to slaughter 11 million? Did Stalin use religion to slaughter 20 million? USSR? Let's rewind a bit.. The wars that the Romans, Mongols, Chinese, Cambodians(K R) waged were not because of religion. The point is capitalism/communism and all other non-religious isms are responsible for the most of bloodiest deaths in history of mankind. The recent wars(1million Iraqis+Afghans slaughtered) are an example of that.
Religion is an easy scapegoat for a lot of people and that is the first thing atheists come up with, most of time without any research; religion is cause of all wars.
The primary cause of conflict today roots back to when, after WW2, the UN (their hand forcefully steered by the Brits??) decided to give a portion of Palestinian land to the Jewish people, thus forcing the expulsion of the Palestinian people from their land. This is the main reason you see conflict between Muslims and Jews in today's society.
Zionists have steered world war 2 for their own advantage, even if it meant killing off their own people (JEWS) and from there began the creation of the terrorist state.
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Its unfair to heap all the blame for bloodshed and terror on organized religion. Wars waged in the name of modernism have not been any less bloody and ruthless.
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Welcome to Machiavellian politics.
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Its all about the rise of extremist politics in the Middle East, Zionist among the Jews, the Phalangist among the Christians and the Muslim Brothers among the Muslims, in the 19th Century. The greater Syria region was first in the Middle East to modernize, with the arrival of the printing press, modern education etc. Jews and Christians in the Ottoman Empire embraced these changes before the Muslims. Towns like in Haifa in Palestine, Baghdad in Iraq, and Alexandria in Egypt with their rising middle class Jews, were seen as a challange.The Muslims did not like their new uptity neighbours, and the conflict started. Its hasn't stopped.
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Odd question, given that 16% of Israelis are Muslims. Why would that 16% hate Muslims?
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An interesting article/debate:
http://bookrate.wordpress.com/2006/07/22/deaths-over-history-religious-vs-nonreligous/
Note, I am not in any way placing all blame for all past bloodshed on religious wars. BUT…people have been slaughtering each other in the name of their religions since religions existed, there can be no doubt about that. Its pathetic…Imean, religion is supposed to promotepeace and brotherhood of man yet in practice, it has quite the opposite effect yeah?
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according to whom?
not all religions are side dishes.
Odd question, given that 16% of Israelis are Muslims. Why would that 16% hate Muslims?
I think she meant Jews. :)
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The destruction around the world and loss of countless lives over non-religious issues is far more than atrocities occured in the name of organized religions.
In the context of the question asked: Religion does not play a role in isralie and palestinian conflict.
This is no islam versus Judaism conflict. Those who like support in this matter try to incite people of same religion.
Many christians are palestinians and are deeply against Israel.
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israelis dont hate muslims,
it would be equal to saying pakistanis hate hindus..
there are misgivings about the people belonging to a faith who are against your country's existence , and their supporters..those are the people they have issues with.
there are israelis who extrapolate the opposition they see, to all muslims, just like in Pakistan there are those who extrapolate the opposition to all hindus.
I have met plenty of Israelis and really have not had any issues, they did not see me as some kind of enemy, and likewise I have hindu friends and colleagues and they did not think of me as an enemy or felt that I thought of them that way.
I am sure there are those who would consider me an enemy but I dont run into those types.
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^ Nicely said.
Jews themselves are disgraced by the behavior of Isreal as are many Muslims by the exploits of the Taliban.
It's not about God anymore.... the fights of today are all about who controls what... be that Money,oil or even land.
Besides both Jewish and Muslim history is full of heroism i am proud to have Jewish friends whose ancestry goes back to the days of the Macabean revolts against Rome.
As well as that my own lineage is steeped in the blood of Noble men who fought for a forgotten ideal... Honour.
These days people seem to kill for silly reasons. It's not about fighting for the greater good anymore... Isreal is a nasty state just like many Muslim states such as Egypt who supress the rightfull majorities.
Thats the thing here...you take a look at the bloodiest wars, the grossest violations of human rights over the course of recorded history...and what does it boil down to? Organized religion. THats why I am currently religion-less. I am NOT in any way focusing here on Islam I mean, theres the spanish inquisition and any number of other wars waged for the "betterment"of mankind.
Every religion on the planet preaches tolerance and peace yet in practice, it encourages warfare and bloodshed. Thats not for me. THe thing is, people take their religion to heart and then think it makes them invincible because they are right and everyone else is wrong so that gives them leave to persecute andmurder?
Hi Mama of 3,
Whilst you are right that every religion (including Islam, Judaism, Christianity, Hinduism, Sikhism etc.) has the potential to be misintrepreted and misused, it is not the main reason for war and conflict.
Religion alone does not have the power to drive people to war and conflict even if it wanted to.
The reasons for war are greed/power/resources or revenge/vendetta.
Yes religion is sometimes added to the mixture to rally more support and rouse passions, but it is not in itself the driving force.
Under normal peaceful circumstances humans are naturally repulsed by extremist/intolerant intrepretations of religion and attracted to the tolerant ones.
It is only when a people feel victimised, oppressed, wronged, shortchanged etc. are they attracted to extremist/intolerant intrepretations of religion to vent their frustrations/anger..
Sikh extremists killed Hindus after the 1984 attack on the Golden Temple not strictly out of religious conviction (even though they used religious slogans) but because of vendetta/anger/frustration.
Same with Palestinains, Palestinian liberation movements would have existed even without Islam. Even if the Palestinians were Trekkies and the ship "Enterprise" was their qiblah they would not have taken kindly to the formation of Israel.
In fact secular Muslim and non-Muslim Palestinians are just as anti-Israel as the religious types.