Re: Israeli Defense Forces combat footage over Lebanon
There are active campaigns being run against Ahmedis and Bahaii's by Muslims all over the world with the justification that these movements are 'Fitnah' and not real Islam.
In the case of terrorism, if some misguided people who claim to be Muslims are commiting these acts of violence, and we really don't approve of terrorism (wink wink), should we not see active campaigns against the fitnah of terrorism just like the campaigns against Bahaaiis and Qadiyanis ?
Re: Israeli Defense Forces combat footage over Lebanon
Fighting in the name of Islam are twofold in nature:
Jihad: Fighting the infidels who are killing Muslims is a duty incumbent upon all Muslims. Many people believe this. The west considers it terrorism and many Muslims consider it Jihad.
Terrorism: The non-Muslims of today now consider every form of struggle of any Muslims anywhere as terrorism. Today’s Muslims, by today’s media standards, don’t do resistance or struggle, they are involved in terrorism. Muslims consider armed resistance as Jihad and many westerners consider it terrorism.
So, since any armed resistance or struggle carried out by any Muslims is supposed to be associated with terrorism, does it mean that even Jihad under the banner of a Khilafa would be terrorism? If a Muslim goes out to defend his homeland with weapons, is that terrorism? If a Muslim goes out to avenge the deaths of other Muslims, is that terrorism?
Answer is yes…Muslims today cannot lift a finger to do anything without it being declard as either incitement to terror or terror itself…
From now on, Muslims cannot wage a struggle without it being termed as terrorism…
What shoudl Muslims do? Disregard what non-Muslims say…One man’s terrorist is anothe rman’s freedom fighter…
Re: Israeli Defense Forces combat footage over Lebanon
What shoudl Muslims do? Disregard what non-Muslims say...One man's terrorist is anothe rman's freedom fighter...
It's not that difficult really.
-- 9/11 attacks were terrorism, condemn it, even if you believe that 'your guys' didnt' commit them. You know, if you have to live in denial, the least you could do is to say: "We condemn whoever did this and they certainly won't find any justifications for it in Islam."
-- Suicide bombings, at a mosque, at a restaurant, at a railway station, wherever it takes place, condemn it. The obvious intent of such bombings is to 'terrorize the population' - it's easy to identify as terrorism. You know.
Don't hide behind 'one man's terrorism is another man's freedom fighter." It can be used in the larger context of a complex struggle but not in the case of 'DELIBERATE ATTACKS ON CIVILIAN POPULATION' to terrorize the masses to achieve the desired result.
Oh and by the way, by my own definition, the Israeli attacks on the Lebanese population, the ones where they deliberately attacked the civilians, were war crimes as well as terrorist acts. I am mentioning this so you can see that I am consistent in my reasoning.
Disassociate yourself from the over zealous amongst us who resort to criminal means, and our legitimate struggles will automatically gain more credibility.
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OH and by the way, there are rules for warfare and declared wars are not called terrorism. If India and Paksitan go to war today, nobody is going to call either of them terrorists. However, if Pakistani agents help a suicide bombing in India, that SURE would be terrorism. Similarly, if Indian agents deliberately attack civilians not in the combat zone, that would be terrorism.
By the way, a struggle doesn't have to be violent. I don't think God has forbidden Muslims from using their time and brains to educate themselves, become economically strong, and then pursue their objectives with the weight they would have gained with this progress.
It is much quicker to kill a murderer than trying him in a court. That doesn't mean we should resort to such vigilantism.
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Sir dig a lot the problem is whatever the western media tells (biased) the west, that's what they believe. Millions of Muslims can condemn true terrorist attacks, but that won't do them any good unless and until the media shows them. But no, what does the media choose to show instead? A group of 100 people who are killing civilians (and I am sure there is a reason behind it) in the name of Allah and Islam. Like I said, they may not even be Muslims and be non-Muslims posing to be Muslims. The views of ordinary people about Islam will not change until the media is fair to the majority.
I was watching Glenn Beck's show on CNN and he was saying that Palestenian Muslims teach their children to kill and they seed hatred in their hearts. I never heard him mentioning the fact that Israili children were writing message on the rockets that were fired on "Hizbullah". How come? Are those children any different than those of Palestine?
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^^ Dude, do I look like "Western Media" to you? You are still in denial.
It's intellectually dishonest to deny that a lot of acts are performed by Muslims, or people who are at least posing as Muslims. Either way, what's the sentiment on the streets of Islamic countries. Do they get upset and outraged, no, they blame the Western Media instead. They cheer Osama's videos and tapes and videos while conveniently glossing over the fact that he has been taking responsibility for 911 attacks as well as calling for more.
I am not a spokesperson for Western Media, and for all you know, I might not even be living in one of the 'western countries." You know and I know that people on the street, ordinary muslims, overwhelming cheer the terrorist attacks against westerners. It is your responsibility, as a Muslim, to make no justifications about these attacks, so there's no doubt left in anyone's mind, Muslim or non-Muslim, that terrorist acts are categorically against Islam.
Yeah, and then you may claim that you follow religion of peace.
Re: Israeli Defense Forces combat footage over Lebanon
I was watching Glenn Beck's show on CNN
Glenn Beck also said he was a recovering alcoholic. Looks all like everyone in America looks up to (Bush, Beck, Limbaugh) are nothing but drug addicts.