Israel warns of threats to India

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When? It isn’t just the West. For instance, how many countries in Latin America suppress religious minorities? By the time the Muslim world reaches the human rights standard of today the rest of the world will have evolved even further. It doesn’t bother you that what was for 1,000 years a civilization that was the most open, the most prosperous, , the most advanced, the most tolerant, and the most powerful is now basically irrelevant aside from the terrorism emanating from it and the presence of oil in a handful of Muslim countries? The gap between the Islamic world and the rest of the world is only increasing. Western Europe eclipsed it long ago, Russia followed suit, a new country emerging from colony status also quickly did, East Asia did, and then so did Latin America. If the Islamic world doesn’t reform it is only a matter of time before Africa overtakes it as well.

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Why no concern for treating people with the dignity they demand for themselves in the case of Saudi Arabia, the hero of Pakistani’s? It seems you are yet another faux champion of human rights when it comes to the Palestinians yet say nothing about the persecution of minorities in your own country. If you care so much about equality why will you obsess over someone thousands of miles away yet not lift a finger for the Ahmadiya or Christian down the street? The only reason for this obsession with Israel is that Saudi Arabia exported it to Pakistan. There is no principle involved. When 400,000 people were being killed in a genocide in Darfur these people were nowhere. In fact, the Arab League was supporting Sudan during that time!

What we are saying is simple: clean up your own house first before worrying about others. If Pakistanis spent 1% of the time they spend on Israel, the US, and India/Kashmir on reform perhaps it could have made some progress in the last few decades instead of facing the risk of disintegration and chaos.

Dude.. READ..
Thats all I can tell you.
It took the Western World over a thousand years to reach where it is today. And its wasnt all by virtue of their own hard work.
There was LONG evolution of Western civilization, and it is STILL evolving.
The Muslim world is a completely different category, its historical narrative is still being written. Its only come out of implerialism in the past 60 years.

Your a MORTAL… Your life span is only a mere 75- 90 at best. Civilizations are built over Generations.. Im certain that in the last century there were many who pondered when the Americas would evolve beyond the need of kidnapping slaves.
There are to this day many minorites in America who wondwer when they will get a fair share.
Many have asked when the Muslim world will evolve beyond its present state.
Perhaps there is a gradual change coming about but we simply cant discern their impact because the effect is felt over generations.
And believe me, with the kind of problems the Muslims are having, they will require a very a long a gradual change.

The point here is that this thread is about ISRAEL.. Not Saudi.

The point that was made was regarding Zionists, NOT Saudis.

You can not draw parallels between the Saudis and Israelis within the context of this debate. If you want to, then open a seperate thread for the Saudis.
Your apartheid pick is moot point. Just showing a picture and saying its apartheid doesnt make it so.
But if I did have to speak of Saudis in relation to Zionist Israel, I can say on thing. Despite their many faults, I dont see the Saudis occupying anyone elses land illegally.

As for the Minorities of my own country, I HAVE! Your making idiotic assumptions based on your own prejudices. I know MANY Ahmadis, and have met many more Christians then you ever will.. So spare me your bull. You dont know jack sh1t about me, so save this lame self righteous bs for someone else..

What im saying is, we are cleaning up our own house. But if the topic is Israel, then we all have a right to speak on it.
Kashmir and India, well Kashmir is a big issue for many Pakistanis.
What im telling you is to calm down, stop making pointless and baseless assumptions, and get off your high horse.

Your refrence to Africa is a very nebulous statement. What is Africa surpassing Muslims in exactly?!?!
I mean you all over the place here, with all these general statemtns.
Muslim world contrary to popular belief is not one singular monolithic entity. So to expect to suddenly have some kind of grand revelation in one Muslim country, and suddenly have it spread across the entire Muslim world is ridiculous.

Africa is continent, Islam is not. What your refering to is reform within Islam both political and social.