Israel wants Iraq to pay compensation!

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Israel looks set to pursue a compensation claim on behalf of Jews who left Iraq over 50 years ago,** despite no such similar consideration for Palestinian refugees. **

A diaspora affairs ministry spokeswoman told Aljazeera.net on Tuesday that records have already been sent to the US State Department.

Comprising “a partial list of Jewish properties as well as hundreds of marriage and death certificates from between 1949 and 2001”, the papers were found by US-led occupation forces in Baghdad.

They had been water-damaged and were difficult to decipher. Nevertheless, spokeswoman Rivka Kanarek said the documents “contribute to an evaluation of properties” in Baghdad.

Sudden emigration

Iraq’s minister for reconstruction and planning, Bayan Sulagh, said on 31 March that Jews who left en masse “after coming under massive pressure in the wake of Israel’s creation” would be entitled to reclaim their property.

“Everyone knows there used to be Jews in Iraq and they owned property. Under the law, every Iraqi has the right to reclaim what belongs to them.”
There are less than two dozen Jews left in Baghdad today

But any compensation claim will necessarily have to look into the causes of the mass emigration.

Why would a community of 120,000, settled for over 2000 years in Baghdad, suddenly abandon their homes?

The Jewish community was well integrated into Iraqi society, and generally prosperous. Yet during 1950 and 1951, more than 95% of the Jewish population left Iraq for Israel via airlifts known as Operation Ezra and Nehemiah.

Historically accurate?

But historians are now questioning the traditional Zionist explanation for the exodus.

Speaking at a Jewish Studies Conference in Australia earlier this year, historian Philip Mendes of Latrobe University dismissed as simplistic the Israeli claim that the exodus was a response to a long history of persecution.

He contends that the exodus from Iraq can also be attributed to numerous other factors, such as the prominent and popular identification of Jews with Communism and a British-Iraqi fear of political domination by the Soviet Union.

**Nevertheless, Tel Aviv will continue to push for compensation over an exodus it may have partially helped to engineer while refusing to even consider financial compensation for the Palestinians who have been refugees for over half a century. **

No disapora affairs ministry official was prepared to comment on the apparent paradox.
Israel wants Iraq to pay compensation

What complete hypocrisy after the way they kicked people out of palestine and renamed it israel they got a real nerve to ask iraq for compensation, these israelis have no shame!

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The workings of a hypocritic mind never ceases to amaze me.

As part of peace negotiations, Israel has long acknowledged that financial compensation for displaced Palestinians will be required. The issue that is a stumbling block is the right of return NOT financial compensation.

Israel would be hypocritic if it demanded a right of return for all the Jews made refugees by Iraqi and other Arab government policies while not extending the same right of return to Palestinians. Demanding financial compensation for displaced Jews and offering financial compensation to displaced Palestinians is entirely consistent.

This call for compensation is actually a pretty smart move. Now we can watch all the Jew-haters try to dance around on the head of a pin and try to make arguments about why the displaced jews are entitled to nothing while the Palestinians are entitled to compensation and the right of return.

This should be fun.

AK47 has launched a good opening salvo to laugh at. Well done, bhai. :k:

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*Originally posted by myvoice: *
Israel has long acknowledged that financial compensation for displaced Palestinians will be required. The issue that is a stumbling block is the right of return NOT financial compensation.

Israel would be hypocritic if it demanded a right of return for all the Jews made refugees by Iraqi and other Arab government policies while not extending the same right of return to Palestinians. Demanding financial compensation for displaced Jews and offering financial compensation to displaced Palestinians is entirely consistent.

This call for compensation is actually a pretty smart move. Now we can watch all the Jew-haters try to dance around on the head of a pin and try to make arguments about why the displaced jews are entitled to nothing while the Palestinians are entitled to compensation and the right of return.

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So palestinians don`t have a right to return and it is entirely consistent in your warped opinion to not let them back.

If you actually bothered to read the posted article the Jews of iraq left on there own accord, The palestinians where either killed or forced out at gunpoint from there homes, businesses and land.

Spot the difference or do we need to draw pictures for you aswell!

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Of course the Iraqi Jews, should get compensation…from the people who really terrorised and made them flee Iraq. Here is the testimony of one such Jew…

The Jews of Iraq

***From the start they knew that in order to establish a Jewish state they had to expel the indigenous Palestinian population to the neighboring Islamic states and import Jews from these same states. ***

About 125,000 Jews left Iraq for Israel in the late 1940s and into 1952, most because they had been lied to and put into a panic by what I came to learn were Zionist bombs

***The principal interest Israel had in Jews from Islamic countries was as a supply of cheap labor, especially for the farm work that was beneath the urbanized Eastern European Jews. ***

***The terrible truth is that the grenades that killed and maimed Iraqi Jews and damaged their property were thrown by Zionist Jews. ***

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The only compensation I can think of is a nuke on Til-Aviv...That will resolve quite a few problems....

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Haha, nice site Malik, funny.

Jews were through out of many Arab countries, not surprising that another conspiracy for that fact is spewed out.

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^ yup everything aganist amerikka and israel is a conspiracy is`nt it according to the right wing brigade!

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^ I think that's a conspiracy held by some.

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^there are some far fetched ideas on jews and amerikkans i agree but not all of them can be dismissed as conspiracies!

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You might revisit the thread I started on May 24, 2002 titled “The forgotten and ignored Jewish refugees”.

Fact:
The range of estimates of Palestinian refugees is between 500,000 and 750,000.

Fact:
The range for Jews expelled from Arab countries is 870,000 to 1,000,000. These Jews have received no compensation for expropriated property.

Fact:
Most egregious was the 1951 expulsion of over 100,000 Jews from Iraq who have been estimated to own as much as 80% of the economic assets in Iraq at that time.

Fact:
The ONLY Arabs to oppose the expulsion of Jews from Arab states were the PALESTINIANS.

"Clearly, Israel will raise the question in all serious negotiation that may in time be conducted over the rights of the Palestinians. . . . Israel’s arguments take approximately the following form: “It is true that we Israelis brought about the exodus of the Arabs from their land in the war of 1948 . . . and that we took control of their property. In return however you Arabs caused the expulsion of a like number of Jews from Arab countries since 1948 until today. Most of these went to Israel after you seized control of their property in one way or another. What happened, therefore, is merely a kind of ‘population and property transfer,’ the consequences of which both sides have to bear. Thus Israel gathers in the Jews from Arab countries and the Arab countries are obliged in turn to settle the Palestinians within their own borders and work towards a solution of the problem”. "

– Sabri Jiryis, director of the Institute of Palestine Studies in Beirut, 1975

http://www.meforum.org/meq/sept95/meron.shtml

History just isn’t on the side of you Israeli hating conspiracy theorists. Give it up.

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Never mind launching Scud missles into Israel in an effort to inflame the entire mid-east.

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myvoice,

Not that I agree with the opposing viewpoint, but your linked article is from a pretty biased source. The Middle East forum think tank was set up primarily to marry, some may say Zionist ideals with pro-American policy in the region, the site is also a little anti-Islamist for my taste.

I thought you'd put your point across pretty well in your first reply to Mr ak47.

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Oh for God’s Sake MV, give us a brake will you? I for one am tired of hearing about how poor jews are being treated badly by the whole world and they are the most righteous and humble people on this earth. They have no right to any compensation, come back and tell us when Israel pays up for displacement and killing of thousands of innocent palestanians. Come back and remind us when Israel pays for damages it caused by blowing up the atomic reactor of Iraq back in the eighties. You think that was a terrorist attack, do you?

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*Originally posted by Kaleem: *
Oh for God's Sake MV, give us a brake will you? I for one am tired of hearing about how poor jews are being treated badly by the whole world and they are the most righteous and humble people on this earth. They have no right to any compensation, come back and tell us when Israel pays up for displacement and killing of thousands of innocent palestanians. Come back and remind us when Israel pays for damages it caused by blowing up the atomic reactor of Iraq back in the eighties. You think that was a terrorist attack, do you?
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Sorry. I'm not an auto mechanic so I can't give you a ** brake. **

I can make facts and information available to you but can't force you to educate yourself with them.

It does fascinate me that any mention of wrongs perpetrated upon the jewish people is met by the kind of rant made in your post. How can you possibly interpret posting the fact of jewish displacement by the Arab world as saying that jews are "the most righteous and humble people on this earth?" Until you recognize that historical wrongs have been perpetrated upon the jewish people as well as being perpetrated by them, you just fall within the uneducated bigoted masses that are part of the obstacle to peace.

You say the displaced jews "have no right to any compensation." Fine and dandy. Don't turn around and moan and whine for compensation for displaced Palestinians.

Sabri Jiryis recognized the issue and the logical link between compensation flowing in both directions. You can have no compensation flowing in either direction and just look at things as a "population and property transfer" that balances out in the end. Or, you can compensate in both directions.

What you can't logically do is deny the right to compensation to one side and demand it for the other. Makes you look like a beggar and a fool.

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^ how about the concept of truth

The zionist occupiers return the land and property they stole, and they can keep there money and return back to eastern europe, russia and the US, where i am sure they will be welcomed with open arms!

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*Originally posted by ak47: *
^ how about the concept of truth

The zionist occupiers return the land and property they stole, and they can keep there money and return back to eastern europe, russia and the US, where i am sure they will be welcomed with open arms!
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Now that Iraq is free, maybe 100,000 of them (plus their offspring) ought to return to Iraq and be given back 80% of Iraq's wealth that was stolen from them. You think Sistani will bless this resolution?

It's just not a simple issue where simple minds can think of simple things to blame on the jews.

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*Originally posted by myvoice: *

Now that Iraq is free, maybe 100,000 of them (plus their offspring) ought to return to Iraq and be given back 80% of Iraq's wealth that was stolen from them. You think Sistani will bless this resolution?

It's just not a simple issue where simple minds can think of simple things to blame on the jews.
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Iraq is free nice joke why don`t you post that in the Joke forum many people can have a good laugh at that quote!

80% of iraq`s wealth stolen from them wow i have heard some ridiculous statements but you have come up with a better one. How about proof instead of sensational zionist crap then try posting again ok.

Blaming jews i have no issue with jews or jewish religion, i have issue with people who have stolen and occupied palestine.

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Nope, Nope and No....

I'll never understand the Israeli people.

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Well the European Jews havn't forgotten their 3,000 years old promise to demolish Palestinian homes.

So why should the Palestinian people give up their fight to take back their homes?

By the way entering one's house without permission, gives the owner the right to knock the intruder unconscious, like Moses did to the Angel of Death