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*Originally posted by underthedome: *
Glorious Iran, Great China, Malik are you a fan of Little Kims North Korea as well?
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Little Kim is unique coz he alone along with few others have the honor of raping terrorist in broad day light..... Now is that Little Kim or is that Little Kim.... :)
which lil kim? that lady rapper?? u guys r figthing over her..?? ...boys will be boys...
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*Originally posted by Malik73: *
Vice versa as well.
Based on your logic, then Rwandan Tutsi's should also have nuclear weapons as well. After all 75% of their people were wiped out in the 1995 genocide...
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Logic? What Logic?
In no manner in the words I wrote defended nuclear proliferation. Or that Rwaandan Tutsi's should have nuclear weapons.
FYI
Is my feeling that the men who invented such things were of no conscience whatsoever. Is my feeling that people who praise such inventions are the people I most dislike.
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Logic? What Logic?
In no manner in the words I wrote defended nuclear proliferation. Or that Rwaandan Tutsi's should have nuclear weapons.
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Then why the need to mention what the Jews suffered in the 1940's, in relation to them having nuclear weapons?
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*Originally posted by underthedome: *
I think the young people of Iran are wonderful.
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I also think the young people on streets of seattle, washington, rome and london protesting against capitalism are wonderful too!
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*Originally posted by Malik73: *
Israel actively supports terrorism against the Palestinians and Muslim states. It is only right that glorious Iran has a nuclear program that will put that little demographically-doomed zionist entity in it's place. We all know that whenever Israel has dared take any on Iranian interests i.e. Hezbollah, it has been left with a huge bloody nose. :)
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The possibility of Zionist attack on IRan nuclear facilities is quite small at this time.
Especially with amerikka losing support as well as an increased body count in the region. For the zionist entity to strike would invite a response from the Iranians and i don`t think they will just sit there and do nothing because there army is not known to take that without responding in kind!
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*Originally posted by Malik73: *
Then why the need to mention what the Jews suffered in the 1940's, in relation to them having nuclear weapons?
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??? I don't understand your point.
I don't think I did.
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*Originally posted by AvgAmericanGirl: *
??? I don't understand your point.
I don't think I did.
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Then try explaining your first post in this thread, where you mentioned *What they experienced in the 1940's developed the need they have of [protectionism?] if thats a word. *?
Irans uranium rod gets bigger
Now why would energy surplus Iran wants a huge reactor? Oh well your guess is as good as mine.. I know Iran sure knows how to put terrorist on the run! Now let me guess, how did Iran got its hands on Centrifuge technology? I say it was Santa all along, it dropped down the chimney :hehe: bad santa bad bad bad…
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/EL06Ak02.html
How Tehran outmaneuvered Washington
By Erich Marquardt
From the beginning, Iran’s decision to comply with the International Atomic Energy Agency’s (IAEA) latest stipulations on its nuclear research program was an attempt to politically outmaneuver Washington. Tehran agreed to temporarily cease its uranium enrichment program and to allow for more stringent inspections of its nuclear facilities. The Bush administration has been pushing for international pressure to be placed on Iran in the hopes of stunting the country’s nuclear research program. Washington fears that Iran’s growing nuclear knowledge and sophisticated nuclear facilities will allow the country to develop nuclear weapons, a scenario that would greatly increase Iran’s power potential in the Middle East and Central Asia.
**How Tehran outmaneuvered Washington **
Glorious Iran. :k:
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*Originally posted by Malik73: *
Then try explaining your first post in this thread, where you mentioned *What they experienced in the 1940's developed the need they have of [protectionism?] if thats a word. *?
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Yeah. And nothing I wrote supported nuclear weapons.
What I said was....
Because of the treatment recieved circa 1940's. The need to protect is obvious.
Then I stated that Israel isn't likely to tolerate nukes nearby.
Not likely to tolerate isn't the same as using or having.
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*Originally posted by AvgAmericanGirl: *
Yeah. And nothing I wrote supported nuclear weapons.
What I said was....
Because of the treatment recieved circa 1940's. The need to protect is obvious.
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Do you know what the United States (supported by Israel) has done to Iran since the 1950's? If you do, then you will see their need to protect is obvious.
IAEA, US, Israel and Iran - (01/06/2004)
An interview with Sasan Fayazmanesh
By Kia Kojouri
Kojouri: Despite the fact that Iran has been clearly cooperating with International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), the US has continuously accused Iran of violating Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT). Why is that?
Fayazmanesh: I personally do not know the extent to which Iran has cooperated with IAEA. The Iranian authorities have, of course, repeatedly asserted that they are cooperating fully. But whether Iran is, or is not, cooperating is not the issue when it comes to the US accusation of the Iranian non-compliance. As I have indicated in a number of places, the main motivation behind this accusation is an Israeli policy, which is now being pursued zealously by the neoconservatives in the US. I have written extensively on the history of this policy (see, for example, "The Politics of the US Economic Sanctions against Iran, in The Review of Radical Political Economy, Volume 35, Number 3, 2003).
In a nutshell, the policy tries to protect Israel and its military-nuclear monopoly in the Middle East by accusing Iran of a number of things, including support for “international terrorism,” opposition to the “peace process” in the Middle East and pursuit of “weapons of mass destruction.” This policy has been formulated and implemented in the US by such Israeli lobby groups as the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) and its affiliate “think tank,” The Washington Institute for Near East Policy. These lobbies are quite powerful and have influential members in the current Administration. For example, the infamous neoconservatives, Wolfowitz and Perle, have long been on the Board of Advisors of the Washington Institute for Near East Policy. Perle is also on the advisory board of another powerful lobby, The Jewish Institute For National Security Affairs (JINSA). The Israeli lobbies also have great influence over the US Congress.
For example, on May 6, 2003, the US House of Representatives passed, by a vote of 376-3, a resolution sponsored by the Israeli lobby groups. Among other things, the resolution calls for all parties to the NPT, including the United States, “to use all appropriate means to deter, dissuade and prevent Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons.” Speaking against this resolution, Congressman Ron Paul, who cast one of only three dissenting votes, stated: “Let’s not fool ourselves: this concurrent resolution leads us down the road to war against Iran. It creates a precedent for future escalation, as did similar legislation endorsing ‘regime change’ in Iraq back in 1998.” This is indeed what the Israeli lobbies want; and as long as these lobbies are underwriting the US foreign policy in the Middle East the pressure on Iran will continue, regardless of whether Iran does or does not cooperate fully with IAEA.
Kojouri: In the last meeting of governing council, as you know, ElBaradei’s report on Iran’s nuclear activities was positive, but the US continued its accusations against Iran. Now we see the same accusations before the upcoming meeting. What do you think about these controversies?
Fayazmanesh: As I have watched this saga unfold, each time the initial IAEA report appears to be favourable to Iran, the US and Israel (USrael) step in and exert considerable pressure on the head of the IAEA, Dr. ElBaradei, and its other members to change the report drastically. This time will be no exception. John Bolton, the Undersecretary of State and the Administration’s senior non-proliferation official has been very busy lately travelling to Russia to end its atomic energy cooperation with Iran.
While in Russia, on May 20, 2004, he told the ITAR-TASS news, that the “United States plans to focus on issues of the non-proliferation of weapons of mass destruction and all issues linked to this.” Bolton, of course, is a well-known neoconservative. He has served on the board of advisers of JINSA and is also a former senior vice president of the American Enterprise Institute (AEI), another neoconservative think tank. I suspect that he, as well as numerous other neoconservatives, will play a very active role in the upcoming IAEA hearing on Iran’s nuclear activities.
Kojouri: How real is Israel’s threat to attack Iran’s nuclear facilities?
Fayazmanesh: That is hard to say. As an international outlaw protected by the US, Israel is, of course, capable of waging an attack on Iranian nuclear facilities, even though such an attack is technically difficult. In that case, there is very little that Iran or, for that matter, any other country or the UN could do. But it appears that most of the Israeli threats so far have come from secondary sources affiliated with Israel. It might well be that this is part of Israel’s usual psychological warfare and terrorizing tactics. It may also be that Israel’s threat is a component of the USraeli plan designed to put intense pressure on the IAEA to state in its next report that Iran is in violation of NPT. This could then start a scenario similar to the case of Iraq in early the 1990s. That is, if the case goes to the United Nations, Iran might face severe economic sanctions. Such sanctions, as we saw in the case of Iraq, could be devastating, both economically and militarily. Moreover, after the imposition of such sanctions, USrael would have a better justification for military attacks against the Iranian nuclear facilities. We just have to wait and see what the next IAEA report states, how much pressure would be exerted on it by USrael to make the report harsh, and how the situation unfolds afterward. This interview originally appeared in Farsnews.
The News International
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*Originally posted by aZiZiQaNdaHaRi: *
Everyone's [in general, don't try to jump on me for saying this-back up:o] hoping to see Pakistan and India nuke each other, so we'd have another Japan, but this time, it'd be Hindushima and Pakisaki...get real man, nukes ain't the answer to nobody's problems. PERIOD.
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It didn't occur to you that in that scenario you Afghans will die from nuclear fall-out. Hey, India's bomb delivery isn't perfect.
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*Originally posted by Malik73: *
Then try explaining your first post in this thread, where you mentioned *What they experienced in the 1940's developed the need they have of [protectionism?] if thats a word. *?
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Just my opinion.
Doesn't mean that I support the idea of Israel taking action to destroy infrastructure in a soverign country.
Just my thinking that past experiences may hold impact the present.
Especially sinse there are many in that area of the world that would love nothing more than to see destruction of Israel.
There is a fable.... History repeats.
Unless one learns from history.
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*Originally posted by sholay: *
How dare another Muslim nation join the elite 'non muslims nuclear club'?.....
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You mean another Mullah-Aya-Tullah nation?
Muslim nation no-problem. Tullah nation, big problem. Kapeesh?
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*Originally posted by Malik73: *
Israel actively supports terrorism against the Palestinians and Muslim states. It is only right that glorious Iran has a nuclear program that will put that little demographically-doomed zionist entity in it's place. We all know that whenever Israel has dared take any on Iranian interests i.e. Hezbollah, it has been left with a huge bloody nose. :)
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Will you guys quit this bravado. Sad-Damn used it and he is now sitting in US jail. Mullah Omer is ready for another set of glasses, and OBL is hinding in some tomb.
Iran is suffering from extremely high unemployment rate. Mullah-Aya-Tullahs should solve those problems first.
Antiobl - how many times are u gonna use that word, Mullah-Aya-Tullah? See, it wasn't funny or clever the first time and now..............
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*Originally posted by antiobl: *
Will you guys quit this bravado. Sad-Damn used it and he is now sitting in US jail. Mullah Omer is ready for another set of glasses, and OBL is hinding in some tomb.
Iran is suffering from extremely high unemployment rate. Mullah-Aya-Tullahs should solve those problems first.
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They maybe suffering from alot but they are also upholding alot of the ideals that "make the american nation so great".
Last news rumor I heard was that Iran decided to discontinue ties with the International Atomic Energy Agency.
The next news rumor I heard was that Pakistan shared nuclear technology with Iran.
I think this news was Fox News... so IMHO propaganda..
But the idea gave me the willys.
Gave me the willys because ....made me wonder if GBJ admin was salting suspicion toward Iran.
News hearsay...
Iran is the country holding close ties to Al Qadea...Not Iraq.