Israel in Swat

Today Hamid Mir in Capital Talk unleashed the horrible details of a recent article published in Arab News yesterday discussing how Israel Agency MOSSAD is playing its role in insurgency of Swat .

Sunday 22 February 2009 (27 Safar 1430)

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The Great Game revisited**
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Charles Ferndale** | Arab News

Charles Ferndale has degrees from the Royal College of Art, Oxford University, and the Institute of Psychiatry, University of London. He divides his time between the UK and Pakistan. E-mail: [email protected]

The Israeli Army — which, despite Israel’s veneer of democracy, actually runs that country — has for some decades now pursued certain policies of direct relevance to Muslim countries in its vicinity. Amongst these countries are Iraq, Iran and Pakistan. First and foremost amongst these Israeli policies is the determination of that army to remain the pre-eminent military power in the region. And in order to retain its military hegemony, the Israeli Army must necessarily prevent any Muslim country in the region from obtaining effective nuclear weapons. And if, like Pakistan, such a country already has nuclear weapons, then the Israelis believe it is essential to disable that country to the point where it ceases to operate as a nation militarily. Once we have understood the centrality of this policy to the Israeli Army, then much of what has happened, and is happening, in the region falls into place.

For example, Iraq was developing a nuclear bomb. Israel destroyed the facility where Iraq’s bomb was reputedly being developed. But Iraq still remained a militarily powerful nation that might be a threat to Israel, and it was too powerful for Israel to defeat alone, so Bush and Cheney obliged the Israelis by invading Iraq on false pretexts. The result was the decimation of the Iraqi Army, the division of the country into three areas so it ceased to operate militarily as a nation, and the control of Iraqi oil by companies amenable to US interests. Job done.

The persistent threats to Iran issuing from the White House under Bush were designed to generate a political climate at home that would allow the US to bomb Iran’s nuclear facilities, so as to disable its supposed nuclear weapons program. If Iran had a bomb, it would be of little danger to anyone, because, were Iran to use such a bomb against Israel, as Hillary Clinton said, America would “obliterate” Iran. On the other hand, were Iran to use a nuclear weapon defensively against an Israeli attack, then America would have to respond with more care. So the only result of Iran possessing a nuclear weapon would be to curtail Israel’s power to bully countries in the region.

It follows that any American attack on a supposed **nuclear weapons **program in Iran could only be designed to maintain Israel’s military pre-eminence in the region. An American attack on Iran’s nuclear program could only have been on behalf of Israel. A clear case of Israel controlling US foreign policy on its own behalf. If Iran is building a bomb, the main reason would be to defend itself against Israel. So the best way to put an end to the supposed Iranian nuclear weapons program would be (i) to disarm the nuclear threat from Israel, and (ii) for NATO militarily to guarantee Iran against attack from its neighbors, especially from Israel. Why has the West not pursued this effective policy that would also reduce the number of nuclear weapons in the world? If India were disarmed and Pakistan were guaranteed military protection against Indian attack, why would Pakistan need nuclear weapons? When perfectly rational policies are ignored in favor of dangerously ineffective ones, something fishy is usually up. The Kashmir dispute also falls into this category.

Why are NATO forces in Afghanistan **killing Afghans? **Surely not for the good of the Afghans. As for democracy, the overwhelming wish of the people is for NATO forces to leave immediately. This is the principal reason for the Afghan national revolt that people in the West call Islamic militancy. The NATO forces are there for two reasons: One, for the oil and gas reserves around the Caspian Sea, which, at the very least, the NATO countries would like to deny to Russia and China; and, two, to destabilize and weaken Pakistan on behalf of Israel. That India would also like Pakistan to be weakened is just an added bonus ensuring India’s participation in the skullduggery, partly by means of a close covert alliance with Israel.

In order to maintain its military dominance in the region, Israel has for years set about destabilizing any Muslim country that poses a threat to its dominance. Pakistan is the only Muslim country with nuclear weapons and Israel is within range. So Pakistan must be weakened to the point at which it ceases to operate militarily as a nation. Pakistan is supposed to be the West’s foremost ally in the fight against Islamic militancy, so Israel cannot attack Pakistan directly, and, if Israel did, she would certainly be defeated. So what to do? Well, two strategies come to mind: One, use America to attack Pakistan for you; and two, train and send into the border regions of Pakistan gangs of thugs willing to commit atrocities that will then be blamed on “barbaric Muslim militants”, suggesting that Pakistan has lost control of its territory to dangerous extremists and so may lose control of its nuclear weapons. Is there any evidence that these policies are being pursued by Israel in Pakistan? Yes, though regrettably my sources must remain anonymous. Perhaps the best-informed person in Afghanistan has said that he knows for sure that the Israelis are training teams in Badakhshan and are sending them into Pakistan’s border regions to commit atrocities. Two British friends who have covered Afghan wars since 1980, tell me the same thing. Rumors of Israeli-trained provocateurs amongst the tribesmen in the Khyber Agency and in Swat are rife. Then there is, of course, the completely public evidence of the daily US infringements of Pakistani sovereign airspace by drones. These drone attacks always kill many more innocents than so-called insurgents. The traditional authority of the tribal elders is weakened because they cannot protect their people, thus further destabilizing the region and allowing the infiltrators easier access. In addition, they weaken the authority of the Pakistan government and of the army, both of which are made to look as if they condone the attacks, which surely is one of the main purposes of the attacks. Perhaps Asif Ali Zardari’s government and the army do condone the attacks, but if so, they do so against the interests of a group of people — the Pashtuns — who already feel alienated from central government. Thus Pakistani unity is further eroded, much to the satisfaction of the Israelis.

That the destabilization of Pakistan has been on the minds of US officials for some time is suggested quite strongly by an article in the Guardian of Aug. 27, 2008. The article entitled “Take this war into Pakistan” was written by the Afghan ambassador to Norway, Jawed Ludin. I assume that Ludin was speaking as Afghan ambassador to Norway and so had the approval for what he said from his government. I am assuming also that since the Afghan government is simply the instrument of the US, the US authorities knew in advance of the contents of the article. Maybe they were testing the water. In this article Ludin says: “Without having to invade Pakistani territory, (a) coalition (of US, Afghan and Pakistani military forces) should establish a viable presence by opening military bases on Pakistani soil. A supreme commander, with deputies from Afghanistan and Pakistan, should be appointed to devise and implement an effective counterterrorism strategy on both sides of the Durand Line… The coalition should also ensure the security of Pakistan’s dangerous nuclear arsenal.”

Earlier in the article the author says, “the US must recognize the utter futility of working with the Pakistani military” which he suggests is untrustworthy and unfit to protect Pakistan’s interests. This implication is rather odd given that later he says that the “coalition of the willing”, that must set up bases in Pakistan to run an efficient counterterrorism offensive, should include the Pakistan military (I take it in only a junior capacity). So here we have a proposed force led by a “supreme commander” of unnamed nationality that will lead Afghan and Pakistani soldiers (the Pakistani leadership having been sidelined) on Pakistani soil (which somehow they have entered without invasion) to take control of Pakistan’s nuclear weapons and to beat all the terrorists, by means undescribed.

Frankly, so bizarre a scheme is too stupid even for Indian and American intelligence officials stationed far from the action. But, if not, then its drift is obvious: The Pakistani military command should be fragmented, disabled, sidelined and the country’s nuclear “arsenal” should come under responsible control (like that of the Afghans, I suppose). Pakistan should be deprived of central military national command.

Events in Waziristan, in the Khyber Agency and in Swat Valley all suggest that the central authorities of Pakistan have indeed relinquished control of these border areas. Balochistan is also in a state of turmoil that makes it impossible for the central authority of the Pakistan government and army to govern there. Much of this is the result of 60 years of gross incompetence and nepotism in the central government and in the army, but it has created an environment easily exploited by Pakistan’s enemies. The Baloch tribes on the Iran side of the border are also being financed by outside agencies, so their insurgency will weaken the central control of the Iranian government.

In short, Israel’s foreign policy in the region, has, with the aid of the US, become a very successful one. The only thing I fail to understand is why the people of these countries let it happen. Especially the militants: They are supposed to be true Muslims, yet they really seem to relish doing their enemies’ dirty work. I suppose when you are very poor, money can buy just about anything. And when you are ignorant, you are easily fooled.

The Great Game revisited

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and proof of this is? NONE....typical wet dream of every jew hating muslim to blame Israel for all the ills of the world

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Yeah Isreal remains as angel from 1948-2009 !

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Israelia in Pakistania..................... LOL.........

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^^ according to the wet dreams of desert bird

and that gives us the liberty to blame them for everything

whats next?

blame them for a traffic jam in karachi? :rotfl:

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and proof of this is? NONE....typical wet dream of every jew hating muslim to blame Israel for all the ills of the world
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So you want to say that israel did nothing wrong?/ , they didn't planned the attacks on Pakistani Nukes in 1988, Nor did they Tried to assassinate Dr. AQ khan??
The Role of mossad & Raw is Pakistan is very clear , now if you fail to understand it , i cant do anything.

You my Friend need's to be awake from a dream ......

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Israelia in Pakistania..................... LOL.........
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Just Wondering What's so Funny.............????

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The article makes some sense... There are many conspiracies against Pakistan in the market. mostly for being the only nuclear capable Muslim country.

Israel and India also planned to attack Pakistan during the Kargil war, Pakistan Air force was immediately mobilized to the highest level that night.

Do you know in 1986 , Isaraeli aircrafts were standing on Nagpur Airport , Madhiya Pardesh , India painted with Indian Air Force colours and they were ready to attack on KRL but at the last moment plan was leaked and Pakistan through High Commissioner of Pakistan in India and Washington sent message at night that its consequences would be un-controlable and then they stepped back

MOSSAD is the main figure in Zia Crash with help of some traitors in PAkistan Army that why FBI which is bound to investigate any murder of US outside US did not carruy out investigations of this incident as all links were pointing towards Israel.

In Kargil War , Israel provided UAWs to India which brought a massive destruction to Pak Army

And today Indo-Israel Armed Deal is about 10 billion Dollars which is even greater than Russia, India old times pal.

What else you want to know

I want to know that who created this joke? I just wanted to correct him that Nagpur has nothing to do with Madhiya Pradesh.

But it was a nice joke, a typical Pakistani one. Enjoyed it a lot, thanks.

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One day you may say there not exist a city Nagpur in India also . May be its not in Madhiya Pardesh , aha :)

BTW these are not jokes or stories , Zia MOSSAD connection was revealed by High Commissioner of US in India who was latter forced to leave his post claiming that he is suffering from mental disease and ISI General Hamid Gul himself sent message to counterpart in India over KRL Israel planes attack mission

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Now what these Indo-Israel are doing despite of Indian claim of Non-Allliance Supporter but now taking every benifit from oppressor and illegitimate state of Israel and both are playing major role in Swat , Tribal area while funding and establish terror camps in Kandhar and Badakshah in Afghanistan

Israel now India’s top defense supplier
15 Feburary,2009
By YAAKOV KATZ

Israel has overtaken Russia as the main defense supplier to India after breaking the $1 billion mark in new contracts signed annually over the past two years. According to news reports, Russia had averaged sales of $875 million annually to India for the past 40 years.

In August, India’s defense ministry approved a $2.5b. joint IAI-Rafael deal to develop a new and advanced version of the Spyder surface-to-air missile system. In March, India is scheduled to receive the first of three new Phalcon Airborne Warning and Control Systems (AWACS) developed for the Indian Air Force by Israel Aerospace Industries. The sides are in talks for the possible purchase of another three AWACS.

The Phalcon (phased array L-band conformal radar) was designed and manufactured by Elta. It includes radar, electronic intelligence systems, and communication equipment. It has already sold a similar system to the Chilean air force. IAI last week displayed at the Aero India defense expo its new third-generation AWACS based inside a small G550 Gulfstream business jet.

“We have a very special defense relationship with India. It’s now moving toward joint development of equipment. There are several new projects in the pipeline,” Maj.-Gen. (res.) Udi Shani, head of the Defense Ministry’s SIBAT Defense Export and Cooperation Agency said in an interview with the Indian press last week.

Israeli defense officials said that in the past decade, the countries have signed deals reaching a whopping $9b. “There is close cooperation and the Indians respect Israeli systems and our experience in fighting terror,” one official said.

Another system India recently purchased from Israel is the aerostat radar to help defend the country against attacks like the ones in Mumbai in November in which the attackers infiltrated the city by sea. The radars will be deployed in strategic points to provide advance warning against incoming enemy aircraft and missiles. The deal is valued at $600m.

The EL/M-2083 Aerostat radars are a simpler version of the Green Pine radar, made by Israel Aerospace Industries, and used by the Arrow missile defense system. The phased-array radars are mounted on blimp-like balloons tethered to the ground and capable of detecting intrusions earlier than ground-based radar systems.

Following the Mumbai attacks, Israel and India also agreed upon the joint development of medium-range surface-to-air missiles (MRSAM) for the air force.

Israel now India’s top defense supplier | Israel | Jerusalem Post

Hang on a minute just thought hasn't this upstart piece of western crap of a country called Isreal caused enough problems for the world!

Seriously how dare they go make Trouble in my country. I'm not happy with pakistan but thats no reason to think it should be left open to the depredations of the likes of Isreal.

How in hell has mossad got in? Not even America or Britian has been able to pierce Swat since the days of the Akhund! If they are here and we know that why not eliminate them. I'm sure if the Pak army can blast away it's brothers in Swat it should turf out these agents with counter agents?

Damn it! Some say war is not a game.....well our Pakistani crackpots in charge better wake up cause they make it look like one!

Even if there is no Isreali ambitions should we have some potent detterent. I don't want to sound to cheesy here but were are our Spec/Ops?

Yet again Pakistan is failing. God Damn those who bring harm to Muslims. Pakistan is literaly being torn up as we speak. Someone needs to crack off in our military and political spectrum. Whatever happens we should try and form up for this. They still talk of unity but there is no united cause anymore. We can't even agree among our own land let alone stop outsder influence.

Brother Champ i'm with you on this. Isreal can and has done a lot of damage to us. However why hasn't Pakistan done anything before? Answer is simple enough. Pakistan has no,what Scholars call Quwat-e-Nahfsah. Our very Law system was created by kaffirs, our Army is even built to kaffir standards. We are limited so much in what we can do. The potential for Pakistan is immense but we have to find a solution or solutions to many problems. If Qaid-e-Azam lived a few years more he would have completed the reformation of the Islamic state. He was unfortunately never able to do any of his plans, but if you dig out our original scripts you will see qaid-e-Azam Mohammed Ali Jinnah could have united many Muslims from all over hindustan and formed such a state which would have been so different to tadays pakistan. look at our leaders today eh baigharats still were a suit and tie. Something jinah gave up wearing after independance. Our army is actually smaller than it was then and to some extents weaker. Our armaments are heavily dependant on foriegn sources. Our artillery arsenal was the finest in Asia but now it's average. Our infantry divisions are poor compared to 60 years ago. back then each sector of pakistan was responsible for it's own state funded troops as well as a national reserve force. Our Air force is still top notch but it lacks inventivness......seriously politicians won't even try new weapons in case America sees it as a threat. AQ Khan was locked up by us.

We should strive to find a common cause. However central government is the one calling for unity. unity in slavery to the west that is.

What can we do then? personally i reckon changes need to take place. massive changes both to political and military infrasctructure. By following western examples we only become western. We should strive to seek out our own identity as a nation. Don't get me wrong Pakistani people are great, but look at our government it's like imperial Rome complete with all the panoply.

As for militant Islamists why doesent anyone actually Talk to them. Really they aren't that bad. There arew too many generalisations. Like westerners Pakistani politicians are playing of ethnic groups with one another. Have you noticed there is no real progress in Pakistan, maybes it's the millitants but dont get me wrong here you cnanot blame everything on them. Seriously if Pakistan doesent do something then believe me like Somalia the result will be very bloody indeed. If we didn't have nukes i think india would hop straight over. Then believe me central government will give in oh so easily.

Pakistans army was among the first in the world to have battalions of Snipers, this was before proper sniper rifles were invented. We had levy forces in decimal units of up to 5000-10,000. We lacked tanks but we had plenty of heavy artillery and during the 1965 war we had 3 times more engineer corps than India.

Now whats so special about us other than a decent air force. Our ground troops lack impact and firepower compared with those of Germany or America. Why have we not develpoed any armaments. No insolence here but Egyptian troops have probably got more impact than ours, mostly becuase they got a lot of Americas junk. I have yet to see any inventors or engineers recruited in the large contingents of Pakistan. Seriously i would love to join the Army there. What stops me is the systematic corruption in pakistans inept Army.

Brother Champ.even if Isreal is behind activities in Swat there really don't seem that much we can do about it. At least Iran has more presence in lebanon above Isreal. Pakistan has a lot less influence there though, unless you can prove me wrong and say for sure that Pak troops are working in lebanon which they are but as lebonese army Allies and not as Anti Isrealis.

Indonesia however has a formidable force of spec/op troops. They are tough soldiers and have beaten both Ausie and Brit troops in Borneo. They have even less firepower than Pak Army however in the jungles they have armed units with powerfull silent crossbows and have had great success. militarily they also have a far advanced army for modern warfare in advanced terrain and have smart thinking inventors behind them. As a State pakistan should emulate them....we are better than indonesia when it comes to resources if only our leaders can harness that properly. It's a shame our Army usually beats up fellow citizens instead, at the behest of America.

hahhhaha.

So the Swati-Mullahs who are known for killing women, bombing barbers, burning CD shops, blowing up little girls schools, committing suicides were afterall

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Yahoodis.

Wow. What a mother-load of conspiracy theory straight up from the so-called leftie-intellectuals supporting the Arab land.

Heck these Arab-landers couldn't deal with tiny Israel for 60+ years and now they are hell bent on scaring Pakistani Pakistanis by saying "Yahoodi aaa gaay, yahoodi aaa gayaa".

hhahha

Really?

Where is the proof of this? I have heard this fariy tale by every Israeli hating Paki but I have yet to find proof of this.

This is nothing more than the typical Hamid Gul nonsense

(Start Sarcasm) Then we should thank Israel for getting rid of this tyrannical dictator and ushering in democracy. (End Sarcasm)

Why would Israel kill Zia? Are Americans not capable enough of killing Zia? Why would Israel get involved in South Asian affairs when they have such a hard time as it is in Middle east.

So...Pak has sided with Arabs in its wars with Israel. It send Pilots to fight Israel, shot down Israeli fighter jets, then why would Israel make close relations with India.

This is another example of Pak getting involved in other people's affairs and creating enemies when there were none.

I already know that. India-Israel trade is not only grounded in arms, but business, info-tech, medical, agricultural....

The problem is that Pak's allies except for China have never helped out Pak in a big way. They have never invested in Pak like our great Arab allies.

India-Israel have moved closer together because Pak has always sided with Arabs and did not stay neutral in conflicts between them just like Arabs stayed neutral between wars with India and Pakistan

DB is spreading Islamists rumors and nothing else.

Zia was among the few non-Israeli generals who beat the crap out of Communist funded Palestinian / Arab militants. Israel could never hate someone who utterly destroyed the Arab militants in Jordan. Palestinians /Arabs were crushed so badly that never again (to date) they tried to create fasad in Jordan. And the credit goes mainly to the military leadership of Zia.

American military too as the absolute fan of Zia. The day Zia was assasinated, he was traveling with top brass of Americans posted in Pakistan. He was on his way back from watching American main battle tanks' demo and exercise in Bahawalpur military range for tank exercise.

Anyone saying Israeli or Americans killed Zia is simply creating the fog of stinking misinformation.

So the question is who may have wanted to kill Zia. The finger points straight at Islamists. No one could penetrate his security detail except the Islamists in Pak army.

This will later come to plain view when Islamists within Pak army were able to dig deep the inner security detail of another Pro-West general aka Musharraf. Bombing of Pak army ammo factory in wah is another example of how Islamists can get through Pak army security and intelligence apparatus.

In all these cases, Islamists dominated and operated by militant Arabs have taken deadly pot shots at Pak army and Pak army generals. Perhaps they want to avenge the humiliation at the hands Zia and Pak army.

And the Islamists-lackyes on the internet continue to spread their stinking propaganda.

They are being funded , armed and weaponized by RAW and MOSSAd and Afghan intelligence not only in Swat but also in Bajaur and Balochistan.Everyday people are being targeted killied in Quetta , today 5 , guess who is doing all that !

Read history you would come to all these facts soon but no you always remain anti-arab and sided with zionists as Zionists are the most peace loving nation on the world ! go and read Synangogue of Satan if fortunately you find it in Canada instead of watching Fox the whole day.You would come to some good facts and figures of history

Zia ul-Haq Mossad Hit is Non-News in America
Monday December 05th 2005, 10:45 pm

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John Gunther Dean, former US ambassador to India, suspects Mossad of
assassinating Pakistan’s General Muhammad Zia ul-Haq and yet this is not
considered a news item in the United States. It’s an important news story inPakistan, of course, and Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, Qatar, India,North Korea, Taiwan, and even Australia and Britain, but not here in the United States. “Of all the violent political deaths in the twentieth century, none with such great interest to the United States has been more clouded than the mysterious air crash that killed President [and Army Chief General] Mohammed Zia ul-Haq of Pakistan in [August] 1988, a tragedy that also claimedthe life of a serving American ambassador and most of General Zia’s top commanders,” writes Barbara Crossette, the New York Times bureau chief in South Asia from 1988 to 1991. “The list of
potential malefactors has grown as the years have passed, compounding the mysteries buried in this peculiar, unfinished tale.”

The one unarguable fact is that no serious, conclusive, or even comprehensive inquiry into the crash has been undertaken in the United States, although one of its top diplomats, Arnold Raphel, and an American general were killed—and in an Americanbuilt aircraft. Congress held a few hearings, but the FBI was kept away from the case for a year. No official report was made public. Indeed, a file in the National Archives containing about 250 pages of documents on the event is still classified secret.
Classified secret because the U.S. government knows damn well who killed President Muhammad Zia ul-Haq, Arnold Raphel, and an American general—the Israelis, the same Israelis who attacked the USS Liberty and killed 34 US seamen and wounded 171 out of a crew of 297. “Despite the overwhelming evidence that Israel attacked the ship and killed American servicemen deliberately,
the Johnson Administration and Congress covered up the entire incident,” Eric S. Margolis quotes
James Bamford from his book Body of Secrets. “Why?” asks Margolis. “Domestic politics.
Johnson, a man never noted for high moral values, preferred to cover up the attack rather than anger a key constituency and major financial backer of the Democratic Party. Congress was even less eager to touch this ‘third rail’ issue.” For daring to accuse Israel and India of killing General Zia and his entourage, John Gunther Dean was accused of mental imbalance and relieved of his duties at the State Department. “Dean, now 80, has remained silent for nearly 20 years but is now collecting his papers and is ready to share his thoughts. He was declared mentally unfit for demanding an investigation into the aircrash.

He lost his medical clearance and security clearance because of his views and was forced to seek retirement in 1988,” writes Huma Aamir Malik for the Arab News. “After he made the charge following the aircrash in which the then US ambassador to Pakistan, Arnie Raphel was also killed with Zia, he was sent to Switzerland to ‘rest’ for six weeks and only then allowed to return to New
Delhi to pack his bags and quit.”
Dean says that when he was ambassador to India, various pro-Israel Congressmen and other US policymakers constantly asked him why he wasn’t cooperating with the Israelis to thwart Pakistan’s nuclear program and demonize Pakistan.
He says he was asked to persuade the Indians to be more pro-Israel too. He is on record as having alleged that the Israelis tried to kill him in 1980 when he was US ambassador to Lebanon because he disagreed with Israeli policies. He was accused of being “pro- Palestinian” in the Israeli Knesset (Parliament).
The US did not allow the FBI or any other agency to carry out a full-fledged
investigation into the crash.

Imagine if the shoe was on the other foot. Imagine if Israeli prime minister Yitzhak Rabin had been assassinated not by the rabid right-winger Yigal Amir but by a Palestinian. Imagine the banner headlines that would have appeared on the front page of the New York Times. Imagine how many innocent Palestinians would have died in retaliation.
It should be obvious why the Muhammad Zia ul-Haq story has not made it on the pages of the New York Times—the corporate media in the United States has harbored a pro-Zionist slant for a very long time. Our government is controlled by “pro-Israel Congressmen and other US policymakers,”
and ever more so since the ascension of the Zionist neocons and their maniacal Christian Zionist allies.
It should also be obvious that Iraq was invaded in the name of Israel—as the Bu*e Philip Zelikow admitted—and yet it is impossible for the corporate media to admit this. A couple weeks before Bush invaded Iraq, then U.S. Undersecretary of State John Bolton told Ariel Sharon “he had
no doubt America would attack Iraq, and that it would be necessary thereafter to deal with threats from Syria, Iran and North Korea,” reported Aluf Benn for Ha`aretz on February 20, 2003. In June,
2002, Joshua Micah Marshall wrote for the Washington Monthly:
The suggestion that the war with Iraq is being planned at Israel’s behest, or at the instigation of policymakers whose main motivation is trying to create a secure environment for Israel, is strong. Many Israeli analysts believe this. The Israeli commentator Akiva Eldar recently observed frankly in a Ha’aretz column that [Richard] Perle, [Douglas] Feith, and their fellow strategists “are walking a fine line between their loyalty to American governments and Israeli interests.” The suggestion of dual loyalties
is not a verboten subject in the Israeli press, as it is in the United States. Peace activist Uri Avnery, who knows Israeli Prime Minister Sharon well, has written that Sharon has long planned g
**ose schemes for restructuring the Middle East and that “the winds blowing now in Washington remind me of Sharon. I have absolutely no proof that the Bushies got their ideas from him. But the style is the same.”
And yet none of this is news in America. In fact, to suggest such is considered anti-Semitic.

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The General Zia ul-Haq story will not make it on page C-23 of the New York Times, let alone the front page.
It is imperative that Americans never know the truth—foreign policy in the United States is run by a clan of Zionist gangsters and they will eventually destroy this country.**

I could have linked you to articles on Zia in New York times … but then that would be a waste to time as it is not going to change anything. However this is a statement by one of Pakistan army generals at that time.

General Durrani, who calls the Israeli thesis “far-fetched” and to be expected to have emerged in South Asia, “where we have a habit of blaming the Jews for almost all bad things,”

His words not mine … also there is ample refrence to the US ambassador (not high commisioner !!!) and his statement in Israel …

and all this from your friendly … :smiley:

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