Re: Israel humiliated /Israel’s response (threads)
more like those children were used as human shields by the cowardly terrorists
Re: Israel humiliated /Israel’s response (threads)
A classic Nazi and Fascist response…
During capture of townspeople supposedly involved in aiding and abetting the resistance, the Nazis would post posters which in not so many words equalled the excuse, ‘Look at what you made us do…You made us kill these people…’
A fantastic display of wrongful oppression and a predictable support for it by the USA…
Re: Israel humiliated /Israel’s response (threads)
People in their homes in their own land who die from the bullets and bombs of invaders and occupying forces are not human shields…They are victims of aggression…
If I come to your house to rob you and shoot your child, it wouldn’t be your fault if your kid died…It was me who came and murdered your child…And surely you would not feel good if someone came and told you that you hid behind your children like a coward which for all manner you were trying to save his life…
It is easy for you say such things being indoctrinated as you are and not having a child of your own…A few people on this forum have lost children and you can ask them what it feels like to lose a child…
So shame on you and your mentality who sees innocent lives lost as victory…I pray that you stand one day before the Almighty Lord with the people that you support with their deeds that you support…Ameen…
Re: Israel humiliated /Israel's response (threads)
During capture of townspeople supposedly involved in aiding and abetting the resistance, the Nazis would post posters which in not so many words equalled the excuse, 'Look at what you made us do...You made us kill these people...'
A fantastic display of wrongful oppression and a predictable support for it by the USA...
USA should and continue to support Israel.
Israel is surrounded by bloodthirsty enemies and any crack in its defenses leads to these kinds of events such as the kidnapping of its soldiers.
If it was possible, these Arabs would wipe out all the Jews in Israel.
Israel has to show that if you kidnap its soldiers, you will pay a very heavy price and that will deter any future adventures.
The bombing of Beirut's Airport will make the Lebanese people wary of tolerating Hezbollah as it intigates Israel.
And Hamas to recognize Israel's right to exist and remove from its pledge to destroy it.
Hamas and Hezbollah need a reality check and this is what Israel is giving them.
USA should support Israel because without the US economic aid to Israel, Israel cannot field such a massive Army to deter invasion by the enemies which surround Israel.
Re: Israel humiliated /Israel's response (threads)
Then Hamas should not fire rockets at Israel or send suicide bombers into Israel. Hamas knows full well the might of Israel's forces and gains absolutely nothing. How long can Hamas hold out in not recognizing Israel and continuing to fight it?
10 years? And in that time, 10,000 Palestinians would have died due to Hamas stubborness.
Since Israel neither comes to rob nor to kill children. Your logic is flawed. It goes into these areas to hunt down terrorist fugitives who hide in densly populated areas deliberatley so that when Israel takes action against them many innocent will die and they can cast Israel as a killer of babies.
If these Hamas Terrorists were so concerned with innocent Balestinian lives, then why dont they set up camp at the abandoned Jewish settlement areas instead of conducting operations from densely popualated areas.
The Arab nations in 1949 chose not to accept Palestinian refugees so that they soil Israel's reputation.
What makes you think that Hamas actually gives a damn about Palestinians ?
Dont you think that Hamas doesnt have a brain to know that if you attack Israel and kidnap its soldiers, that Israel will retaliate in force?
How stupid does Hamas have to be as to not realize this?
Israelis have lost children, Palestinans have lost children.
But the difference is intent.
Palestinians deliberately target Israeli children where as Israel does not.
Every single Criminal Justice system in the world makes this difference.
In USA, if you accicdently kill someone its called Man Slaughter in which you get 7-10 years in Jail. If you deliberately kill someone, you can get the death penalty.
So making a comparison of Israel killing Palestinians and equating it to Hamas, its complete nonsense.
Hamas has every intent to kill Israelis where as Israelis show every possible restraint.
Thats why in 6 years of fighting, 3,000 Palestinians have died and the Iraqi Insurgents have managed to kill 100,000. Thats the difference.
Shame on you, for you only sympathise with people who are killed by specific people.
Why don't you lament the daily murder of fellow muslims in Iraq by Iraqi Insurgnets who just last week killed 100 people.
Even when Jews accicdently kill somone you frame as it something worse than the holocaust.
If Israel was really as evil as the Nazis, then it should have nuked Gaza and West Bank and send its tanks to expel all Arabs from West Bank, Jerusalem and Gaza.
But it didnt.
Re: Israel humiliated /Israel's response (threads)
Israel is under attack on its borders just like Pakistan is.
Tribals from Kandhar, to Wazirastan, to Mogadisho, to Sierra Leon, to Liberia, to Gaza, to South Lebanon are all the same. These tribals have failed to live a civilized life for many years now.
These tribals don't know what they want, and the only thing we can expect is $tupid kidnappings, suicide bombings, and homemade rocket firing.
How long will it take to control these dimwits? Many Many years.
Re: Israel humiliated /Israel's response (threads)
Throwing the 'Nazi' word around is foolish, dishonest and irresponsible. Let me know when the Jews start stuffing Arabs into ovens by the millions. But in the meantime, while they are defending their existence against violent militias that are hell bent on their destruction and killing their civilians -- come up with some other 'woe is us' and 'you are all going to hell' sob stories.
Re: Israel humiliated /Israel’s response (threads)
Yep, more deliberate killing of civilians, especially children by the zioinsts.
Sustained air strikes in south Lebanon killed at least 50 civilians, including more than 15 children, and wounded 100 people, security sources said. Ten members of a family were killed in Dweir village and seven family members died in Baflay.
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Allowing a terrorist operation such as Hezbollah to freely launch attacks against Israel is not good for a country. Hezbollah has fired several Katyusha strikes into populated Israeli areas, you should go celebrate this "humillation" of Israel.
Re: Israel humiliated /Israel's response (threads)
Israel is the one deliberately bombing populated areas of Gaza and Lebanon, and deliberately killing civilians, including dozens of little kids. Finally, the world is seeing the ugliest side of zionists that the Palestinian's have lived with for so long.
Re: Israel humiliated /Israel’s response (threads)
Bush defends Israel actions, Russia and France condemns attacks
Italy slams Israel retaliation
Re: Israel humiliated /Israel's response (threads)
Infrastructure used by Hezbollah will be removed and leaders of Hezbollah are targets, they should not be permited to gather in places of population, it's pretty simple.
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And so the Palestinian propaganda machine starts cranking out the spin that the Guppy Lemmings regurgitate.
Let me just suggest that people who launch thousands of unguided rockets at a massively superior military opponent are simply asking to fight. To imagine that people will not be killed is idiotic.
If the Indians launched thousands of rockets into Pakistan, how long would it be before the Pakistani Jarwans would be mobilized to confront the problem? Would they be able to guarantee that they could avoid civilian casualties?
We can play chicken and egg all day to determine who is right. But to imagine jabbing an opponent until the opponent reacts, then whining that there are civilian casualties is really just wimpy.
And, from what I have seen, Israel has gone to great lengths to assure that only Hamas militants are hit, and symbolic targets are struck only when unoccupied. They could have hit the Palestinian Ministry building in the middle of the day and killed hundreds. I hope this is viewed as restraint, not weakness or the fighting will be worse.
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This debate is pointless. Just wait when the ball comes around. Israel cannot continue this forever, one day their number will come. Look at Sharon, Allahs justice is served when you least expect it and there is no turning around from it. Those who commit evil acts on either side will have their day come one day. May be the Arab groups are getting it through the hands of Israel and so will Israel receive it at the hands of someone else someday.
I just fear there will be no Palestinian state and the same thing that happened to native Indians in USA will happen to them. They will be hunted to extinction or be narrowed down to refuge camps and settlements. However as muslims we all know what will happen in the long run. Victory is for Islam and no matter how many muslims die that will not change. Islam may be suppressed but it can never die and it will come around. It is just unfortunate we live in the time when it is on a downhill slope.
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Very interesting. There is no difference between Hamas/Hizbollah and the Israeli Govt. The Israeli Govt attacks two seperate legal entities and does not consider it a declaration of war. The same applies to Hamas and Hizbollah then.
If Israel can attack at will, so can Hamas and Hizbollah.
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they can't.. it's not physically and logistically possible to do so.. unless Israel has stadium sized ovens at their disposal?
as for Lebanon and Syria or whoever getting bombed.. serves them right.. you neglect your national security .. you pay dearly for it..
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It is unfortunate that you and many other Muslims equate Hezbollah and other terrorist groups with Islam and the suppression of Islam. Does it occur to you that may be the reason Muslims are on a downhill slope?
Re: Israel humiliated /Israel's response (threads)
Seminole doesn't that make you happy ?
Re: Israel humiliated /Israel's response (threads)
I just fear there will be no Palestinian state and the same thing that happened to native Indians in USA will happen to them. They will be hunted to extinction or be narrowed down to refuge camps and settlements. However as muslims we all know what will happen in the long run.** Victory is for Islam and no matter how many muslims die that will not change.** Islam may be suppressed but it can never die and it will come around. It is just unfortunate we live in the time when it is on a downhill slope.
It will apply only when Muslims start practising Islam, not when we watch events like a spectator game, not when people who have contrued (?) definitions, twisted interpretations to justify their acts (i.e. civilian/sectarian killings etc). Allah will help those who help themselves, otherwise we are seeing a change of nation who will carry Islam's flag in few years (or perhaps decad(s)).
Re: Israel humiliated /Israel's response (threads)
C'mon, how long would it take them to bulldoze Gaza and fill the landscape with the most high-powered and technologically-advanced ovens in the history of the world? As OG said, Israel has gone to great lengths to assure that only Hamas militants are hit, and symbolic targets are struck only when unoccupied.