Re: Israel accepts cease fire?
Buddy, Israel has deployed even more troops since the "ceasefire." Casualities will rise, but only Hizbullah will be seen as terrorists, while israel does whatever it wants.
Re: Israel accepts cease fire?
Buddy, Israel has deployed even more troops since the "ceasefire." Casualities will rise, but only Hizbullah will be seen as terrorists, while israel does whatever it wants.
Re: Israel accepts cease fire?
By the rate the Israelis are dropping, they better accept the ceasefire, sooner rather than later. Funny how a few men armed with Ak47's and a cause can make one of the world's most proficient fighting forces look like pansies.
Re: Israel accepts cease fire?
Israel accepting cease-fire means that they have accepted the loss, they have admitted that they cannot destroy Hezbollah militarily. It is a wise decision but I am afraid too late, right now Middle East will understand that the only way to counter Israel is to pack up militarily and they will do that rightly so. America can introduce resolutions after resolutions on arm embargos but when you have China and Russia, Middle East will be militarily equipped. Israel is down and only thing they are looking is for Hezbollah to slip, they want them to make that mistake with actions or words so that they can play the victim card but it seems very unlikely because people in the Middle East and World seem to have problems with Israel.
These are very difficult times for America and Israel and they really need to reach out to the global community. They were the ones who isolated themselves and rejected any help and plea from the International community. Their credibility is at stake, gone are the days where you can intimidate a nation with military might, it only makes you look like the mass murderer.
I think those resolutions have no meat and credibility. The only thing the world will be watching is Hezbollah’s next move. They can literally change the course of the entire Middle East.
Re: Israel accepts cease fire?
What was that israel was saying at the start of its murderous campaign. Was it something like we will not rest till we get our 2 soldiers back. Four weeks later their credibility in ruins their credentials as mass murderers of innocent civilians established beyond any doubt they ran to their sponsor to run to the UN in order to save them. Tsk, Tsk, Tsk. Oh dear, Oh dear, Oh dear.
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Did you see me calling someone kafir based on opinion about some political conflict? ![]()
Re: Israel accepts cease fire?
American and Israeli bet that they will wipe out Hezbollah backfired. They are still unable to grasp the fact that you can't just invade a country and make them bendover like WWI or WWII anymore esp when it comes down to people getting involved in the conflicts. US couldn't take over Vietnam, unable to establish full control in Afghanista, Iraq but still they think that their high-tech weaponry makes them invincible. They might be 'invincible' to some extent when it comes to DEFENDING their lands but not when attacking.
Re: Israel accepts cease fire?
The truth is that these Kafir Christians and Jews are frustrated by their ultimate defeat in lands where they have occupied, e.g in Afghanistan the Jihad is ongoing against the Kafir forces and in Iraq these Kuffar are in a big trouble. I am sure they wouldn't be expecting this situation and they were very proud of their hi tech and sophisticated weapons, but they didn't know that they can destroy buildings with weapons of mass destructions and murder innocent lives but they can't kill the passion and spark of resistance against the Evil and Oppressors which Islam lightens even in the hearts of very weak believers.
See, there is not a single nation which is defying and challenging these Yahood and Nasaara, North Korea is depending on China and Russia and almost the same is the case with Iran which is depending on Russia which has been Iran's oldest ally.
Poor Afghanis or Iraqis or Palestinians or Chechans don't have these military facilities but they are still resisting to these Kuffar and damaging their interests.
No one can deny that Afghanistan and Iraq are a very recent and bad lessons for Crusaders that is why they couldn't dare attack Syria otherwise, Syria at least would be the next target.
They have been failed in all areas of their designs against Islam, e.g they have been persistently attacking the ideology of Islam through their media and puppet scholars or so called religious schools. But they are facing more and more opposition from Muslims each new day.
I am sure the ultimate result of all this Evil Game of these Kafir Christians and Jews would be the Nuclear War as that is the place where their failures and frustrations would take them.
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But at the same time, I regard Muslims equally responsible for all the calamity and sufferings of ours which has been caused by their abandoning Quran and lack of common leadership.
Unfortunately, I don't see any improvements in the future, may be some small groups would give some hope but as a whole we are going to get more disgrace and humiliation by the hands of Kuffar, but only Allah knows the best, we can only guess seeing the current and past situations.
Re: Israel accepts cease fire?
These are very difficult times for America and Israel and they really need to reach out to the global community. They were the ones who isolated themselves and rejected any help and plea from the International community. Their credibility is at stake, gone are the days where you can intimidate a nation with military might, it only makes you look like the mass murderer.
I think those resolutions have no meat and credibility. The only thing the world will be watching is Hezbollah’s next move. They can literally change the course of the entire Middle East.
Roger that!
Takbeer!
Allah Akbar!
Long Live Nasrullah!
Long Live Hizbollah!
Re: Israel accepts cease fire?
Lebanon/Hezbollah should demand the return of Sheeba Farms as part of the cease-fire. Otherwise its a loss for Lebanon. They will have gained absolutely nothing out of this war, if they don't ask for this.
As for Israel... they have already done the damage to the civilian population of Lebanon.
Re: Israel accepts cease fire?
**U.S. assures Israel it will not be forced to withdraw from Shaba **
By Aluf Benn, Amos Harel, Yoav Stern and Eli Ashkenazi, and Agencies
A United Nations-brokered cease-fire would go into effect on Monday morning at 7 A.M., a senior government official said Saturday afternoon.
Israel Defense Forces on Saturday reached the Litani River, some 30 kilometers inside Lebanon, with the purpose of cutting off Hezbollah forces further south, toward the border with Israel. In the event that the fighting resumes, IDF forces will then be in a position to move more effectively against Hezbollah militants. Under the cease-fire resolution, IDF forces will withdraw from Lebanon as international troops move in.
Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni said Saturday evening that the offensive had continued despite the UN Security Council resolution calling for an end to the war because the army had requested an extension. “We said (we would) allow the army the time it needed and I think that will be until some time on Monday,” she told Channel Two television.
U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said Saturday she hoped that the shooting would end within “a day or so.”
In an interview with Israel Television, Rice said, UN Secretary General Kofi Annan “is working with the parties to establish a timetable for the
cease-fire, but I would hope that within no more than a day or so that there would be a cessation of the hostilities on the ground.”
Rice said the broadened IDF offensive in Lebanon, which was ordered Friday a few hours before the cease-fire resolution was adopted at the UN, had been anticipated and was normal. “I understand that this is going on,” she said. “My understanding is that this is part of the normal operations that were contemplated. When the cease-fire - the cessation of hostilities - comes into being, Israel will stop.”
Prime Minister Ehud Olmert’s office, meanwhile, had said late Friday that the expanded incursion into Lebanon would continue “for the time being,” despite Israel’s agreement to a cease-fire resolution drafted by the United Nations Security Council. The cabinet is expected to vote Sunday on the resolution.
Foreign Ministry spokesman Mark Regev said Saturday morning that Israel would press ahead with its military offensive in south Lebanon until the Cabinet approved the cease-fire deal. “The logic would be that even in the framework of this successful outcome, if you hand over to the Lebanese army a cleaner south Lebanon, a south Lebanon where you have Hezbollah removed from the territory, that makes their [the Lebanese] troubles a lot easier,” Regev said.
U.S. pledge to Israel on Shaba enabled breakthrough
Haaretz Diplomatic Correspondent Aluf Benn reports that an agreement reached between Israel and the United States on the disputed Shaba Farms area, located on Israel’s border with Lebanon, enabled a breakthrough in reaching a cease-fire resolution at the United Nations on Friday.
In letters exchanged between U.S. and Israeli leaders, U.S. officials assured Israel that UN Secretary-General Kofi Annan would be authorized to determine whether the area belongs to Lebanon or Syria, but that the future status of the territory would only be determined in negotiations between Israel and Farms’ rightful owners.
A senior government source said that Israel would not be obligated to withdraw from Shaba Farms, even if Annan’s investigation determines that they belong to Lebanon.
In the negotiations that preceded the cease-fire deal, Lebanon demanded that Israel hand over Shaba Farms as a “deposit” to the UN, with the small strip of territory later to be given to either Lebanon or Syria, according to the results of Annan’s investigation.
But Olmert strongly opposed the Lebanese demand, telling U.S. officials that Israel viewed the Shaba Farms as part of the Golan Heights, which was captured by Israel from Syria in 1967. He said that a withdrawal from part of the Golan would require a majority of 61 members of Knesset - a majority he does not have - or a national referendum. In 1981, the Knesset voted to extend Israeli law to the Golan.
With Olmert refusing to budge on the Shaba issue, the UN Security Council announced that Annan would determine the exact delineation of area of the Farms and present his findings to the Security Council within 30 days.
When Israel withdrew from south Lebanon in May 2000, the UN determined that the Farms were Syrian territory and that their future therefore had to be determined in negotiations between Jerusalem and Damascus.
A government source said Friday that Olmert, Defense Minister Amir Peretz and Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni had agreed to the UN cease-fire resolution following last-minute changes to the text. “The various key ministers have voiced satisfaction at the amendments made over the last few hours,” the source said. “For implementation by Israel, this now requires a cabinet vote. The idea is that the military offensive will continue until then.”
Earlier Friday, Olmert issued the order for an expanded ground operation after diplomatic efforts at the UN appeared to be faltering. Another stumbling block was Lebanon’s opposition to a more robust contingent of UNIFIL troops and to granting UNIFIL the authority to enforce the cease-fire.
Olmert thanks Bush
Olmert thanked U.S. President George W. Bush Friday for his work on the UN Security Council resolution to stop violence between Israel and Hezbollah, the White House said in recounting the first direct talks between the two leaders since the fighting began.
The eight-minute phone call with Bush at his ranch in Texas was initiated by Olmert, said Frederick Jones, spokesman for the National Security Council at the White House.
“The president expressed his view that the crisis was provoked by Hezbollah with the support of Iran and Syria and that we need to ensure that the reach of the Lebanese government extends throughout the country,” Jones said.