i heard it was agianst ur religion to take pics, cause wen we die allah is gonna ask us to put our spirt in those pics,i think same goes for the pics we draw
i usto see molvie in mosque takin pics with cups of tea in their hands and i us2 wonder if it’s true i still do,
so is it ganah to have images of us?
Yes taking pictures is not allowed but I think they are allowed in situation such as where security cameras are needed or are installed. For security purposes you can take pictures.
But I am not alim, maybe someone can find us the correct, logical, information which is approved by Sunnah and Quran.
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What I have heared about this issue is, that drawing pictures is gunnah, but a photograph is ok, because it's just a projection of reality. But I'm not very sure about this, so I hope someone comes up with some dalil about this.
Umer, the Pakistani Brain of Austria
http://www.understanding-islam.com/ri/mi-048.htm
Our friend, the Learner, feels that a picture is only not allowed if you ascribe some sort of polytheistic belief to that picture. Otherwise, pictures and paintings are fine and not prohibited outright.
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Here is what I found:
Question#:
3312.0
Question Date:
1998-06-08
Topic :
Decorate rooms in Pictures with Faces..
Question:
I am a recent convert to the Muslim religion. I have two children and my husband says I shouldn’t decorate their rooms in pictures with characters faces on them. Is this true?
Answer:
Dear Sr. S. As-salaamu alaykum. Muslims don’t replicate or hang ‘Images’ because they believe that on the Day of Judgement, they will be asked to put a soul in the ‘images’ they made challenging God’s creation. Also, they don’t replicate ‘images’ believing that the Angels will not enter their houses. This is based on several authentic Hadiths of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh). However, in the Arabic Language, what we call Soura (or commonly translated as ‘image’) can mean several things, and in the context of the prohibition, it means a statute or a sculpture of a living being and not a photographic picture or a cartoon drawing. Therefore, while statutes are prohibited, pictures in magazines, televisions, newspapers, books, computers, etc. are allowed. Such pictures can however be prohibited if they depict nudity or other indecent representations. Thank you for asking and God knows best.
Source:
IslamiCity
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Originally posted by BOLEY BALE LARKI:
*i heard it was agianst ur religion to take pics, cause wen we die allah is gonna ask us to put our spirt in those pics,i think same goes for the pics we draw
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That is referring to the idols and statues that the kuffaar of the olden arab tribes used to worship....and of the number of religions that still propagate idol worship. Allah SWT will ask those supplicators to put a soul in those statues and bring them to life, and demonstrate if they can do even one thing that a supreme power should be able to do.
Regarding taking pictures, you will get differing opinions from different ulema. If you go with one alim, then you can do it and be with it. However, to me, anything used in the right way is good....anything used in the wrong way is bad......unless something is outright prohibited in the Quran. Pictures and photographs, when used for retaining old memories, dont pose any kind of threat to my belief in the oneness of Allah SWT.
If they are to be outlawed, that would in effect put a million different advancements we had had in this world....like the PC, the internet, the newspapers, TV, magazines. All these things, when used for the wrong purpose, are haram. When used rightfully, they in no way violate the basic tenets of Islam and the commands of Allah SWT.
I would agree with Eastern Analog.
If I you don’t mind Astrosfan, I would like to put the whole text up for the link that you have kindly provided. It is one that I support and agree with.
http://www.understanding-islam.com/ri/mi-048.htm
In my opinion, pictures of anything, whether living or non-living are not prohibited per se. Although there are a number of narratives ascribed to the Prophet (pbuh) in which, apparently it seems that prohibition of pictures, in general, has been referred to but it is quite obvious if all narratives regarding the issue are gathered and analyzed, that the Prophet (pbuh) has actually prohibited pictures which were used for worship in his society.
In the Arab society, during the times of the Prophet (pbuh), pictures and paintings were primarily used for the purpose of polytheistic worship. In my opinion, therefore, these were the pictures, which have actually been referred to in the narratives ascribed to the Prophet (pbuh) in this respect.
Besides all the narratives ascribed to the Prophet (pbuh), the following narrative ascribed to one of the companions of the Prophet (pbuh), reported by Ahmad ibn Hanbal, also substantiates my opinion:
“Laith reports that once I visited Saalim ibn Abd Allah. As I entered, I saw him resting on a pillow on which there were pictures of birds and wild animals. I asked him, “Aren’t these [pictures] disliked [in Islam]”. He said, “No. Only those [pictures] are disliked which are put up as for worship”.
Thus, in view of the explanation given above, I am of the opinion that pictures are not prohibited per se. It is only when polytheistic belief is attached to a picture that it becomes prohibited. If a picture of living thing, like the picture of a person’s father etc. does not entail a polytheistic belief, it would not be prohibited. On the other hand, if a picture of a non-living thing [non-living does not imply “non-living” in the scientific sense] entails a polytheistic belief, like the picture of a particular tree or a stone, such picture shall stand prohibited.
The reason for this prohibition is, obviously, to save people from the fatal sin of shirk [polytheism].
I hope this helps. In case any aspect of my answer needs further clarification, please feel free to write back to me, at your convenience.
http://www.understanding-islam.com
They shoot partypoopers, don’t they?
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I agree with mr. partypoooopah, which in turn agreed with astrofan, which agreed with our muchacho The learner
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My personal belief is that taking pictures are not bad. A lot of people usually take pictures to immortalize occasions and periods of life (yaadgar tasweeren). And some take 80 cm x 80 cm pictures of themselves to hang in their houses. The latter thing is inappropriate.
I hope every one reads this post and stop taking pics and decorating their house with them..
It is ofcouse sinfull to take pics of any thing which is living breathing.
PPl please do that right thing and stop taking pics and putting them in your house.
As most of us know if you have a dog or some pics haning in your house the Angeles of Rahamat never enter that house. Just think how bad this is.
Ever since I have red this with own eyes I have taken down all the pics in my house and have also stopped taking any pics of any thing.
Please tell this to other friends who have pics in their house that it is wrong and there is very hard punishment for this on the day of judgment..May allah give us tufiq to do the right things...
Allah hafiz.
bye
Naeem
naeem u seem to be followin islam properly, i can't believe u took pics down, most of us who knows it's rong still carry on,
i remember there was a hijackin in Afganistan(i think it was afganisstan or another muslim country) they did'nt even alow camera crew nr there airport
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Originally posted by BOLEY BALE LARKI:
**naeem u seem to be followin islam properly, i can't believe u took pics down, most of us who knows it's rong still carry on,
i remember there was a hijackin in Afganistan(i think it was afganisstan or another muslim country) they did'nt even alow camera crew nr there airport
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You know what the biggest sin of all is knowing something is wrong and still keep on doing it. I didn't know this thing before and ever since I red it. I took a hard look at my life and it was clear that our well beingness is in the hands of ALLAH and if we don't follow his book or warship him then there is no place for us. We live on his earth, we drink his water, we breath his air, at least we can do is to thank him..
remember GOD helps those who help themselve..
bye
Naeem
Regarding the pics question; From what I have learned and according to shafi^y school of thought, Having a full image in the house such as a cat statue or a dog or even real cat or dog in the house, that will stop Angels from entering your house. Although raising a cat in your house is not haram. For having a picture on your wall of a person or an animal, what's haram is if the picture was full image the whole body as if it was in real life it would live, so if one had a pic of a perosn's head is omitted; but from what I remember it's disliked.
It will be exculded for Islamic cause such as infroming about a person in a magazine or so.. I can just review a bit and get firm details, but I think that was clear for now.
Allah knows best.
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Originally posted by naeem_dimple:
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It is ofcouse sinfull to take pics of any thing which is living breathing.
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As most of us know if you have a dog or some pics haning in your house the Angeles of Rahamat never enter that house. Just think how bad this is.
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Please tell this to other friends who have pics in their house that it is wrong and there is very hard punishment for this on the day of judgment..May allah give us tufiq to do the right things...
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May I enquire after the basis in the Qur'an and the Sunnah regarding your statements?
They shoot partypoopers, don't they?
Here is what i have read. Its from the book " The lawful and unlawful in Islam " by " Yusuf Al-Qaradawi".
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" Those jurist who consider the prohibition to be restricted to the stattues alone do not see anything objectional in photographic pictures, especially if ther are not of the full figures. Others raise many questions. Are photographs similar to drawings? Is it not true that the reason stated in some hadith concerning the punishment of the figures makers, namely, imitation of Allah's attribute of Creatorship, doesnot apply in the case of photographic pictures? Doesnot the absnce of the cause of prohibition nullufy the prohibition?
The late Sheikh Muhammad Bakhit, the Egyptian jurist, rules that since the photograph merely captures the image of a real object through a camera, there is no reason for prohibition in this. Prohibited pictures are those whose objects are not present and which is originated by the artist, whose intention is to imitate Allah's animal creation, and this does not apply to taking photographs with camera.
Even those who are very strict in classifying all kind of figures, including photographs, as detestable. exempt, according to necessity, pictures retained for identity cards, passports, keeping a record of suspects and criminals, pictures for instructional purposes, and so on, with the proviso taht there is no intention of respect or santification of these pictures which would affect islamic belief. The need of such pictures is definitely greater than the "prints" on cloth which were exempted by the Prophet pbuh.
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Fi Aman Allah
I am usually more inclined to take the classical definition and evidence which clearly prohibit paintings of living beings. The reason is mentioned by several members above.
I am not so sure about modern camera photography, due to various reasons.
I am even more skeptical about the evidence and basis for prohibiting video photography. You only have to look at the punishment for this deed, to realize why this is prohibited. Using the same reasoning, we can determine that video camera involved digital signals, which collectively, on decoding reflect on a screen to show images of living beings. Is it haraam?
Then again, there are scholars who have questioned completely the whole basis of prohibition by classical scholars. And they have allowed images and pictures (not paintings), as long as these are not pornographic. Wallah u Aalim Bil-sawaab.