Islamist cleric Anwar al-Awlaki 'killed in Yemen'

The US-born radical Islamist cleric and suspected al-Qaeda leader Anwar al-Awlaki has been killed in Yemen, the country’s defence ministry has said.

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The consequences of being a terrorist or a supporter of terror eventually catch up.

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“He has been reported dead in the past following US air strikes on southern Yemen in December 2009 and November 2010.”

They have killed him for the 3rd time now. :rolleyes:

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He has many body double , or al Qaida has gotten their hands on cloning technology. :hmmm:

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Live by the bomb, die by the bomb.

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His death has once again opened the debate if someone can be targeted to be killed without a due process of justice on secret evidence. Some argue that it’s against the 5th amendment which gives US citizen a due process of justice, while others think the killing is legal.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/01/world/american-strike-on-american-target-revives-contentious-constitutional-issue.html?ref=global-home

NEWS ANALYSIS
Judging a Long, Deadly Reach
By SCOTT SHANE
Published: September 30, 2011

WASHINGTON — The killing of Anwar al-Awlaki, an American citizen struck on Friday by a missile fired from a drone aircraft operated by his own government, instantly reignited a difficult debate over terrorism, civil liberties and the law.

For the Obama administration, Mr. Awlaki, 40, had joined the enemy in wartime, shifting from propaganda to an operational role in plots devised in Yemen by Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula against the United States. Early last year, officials quietly decided that his actions justified making him a target for capture or death like any other Qaeda leader.

But a range of civil libertarians and Muslim-American advocates questioned how the government could take an American citizen’s life based on secret intelligence and without a trial. They said that killing him amounted to summary execution without the due process of law guaranteed by the Constitution.

That argument was pressed unsuccessfully in federal court last year by the American Civil Liberties Union and Mr. Awlaki’s father, Nasser al-Awlaki, a former agriculture minister and university chancellor in Yemen. A federal judge threw out their lawsuit, noting that the younger Mr. Awlaki had shown no interest in pursuing a claim in an American justice system he despised.

On Friday, Jameel Jaffer, the A.C.L.U.’s deputy legal director, said that the drone strike, which killed Mr. Awlaki and another American, Samir Khan, violated United States and international law. “As we’ve seen today, this is a program under which American citizens far from any battlefield can be executed by their own government without judicial process, and on the basis of standards and evidence that are kept secret not just from the public, but from the courts,” Mr. Jaffer said.

Robert M. Chesney, a law professor at the University of Texas who specializes in national security law, said he believed that the killings were legal. But he said it was “plenty controversial” among legal specialists, with experts on the left and on the libertarian right deeply opposed to such targeted killings of Americans.

The administration’s legal argument in the case of Mr. Awlaki appeared to have three elements. First, he posed an imminent threat to the lives of Americans, having participated in plots to blow up a Detroit-bound airliner in 2009 and to bomb two cargo planes last year. Second, he was fighting alongside the enemy in the armed conflict with Al Qaeda. And finally, in the chaos of Yemen, there was no feasible way to arrest him.

Critics noted that the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution states that no one shall be “deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law.” In ordinary circumstances, a trial and conviction would be required before government officials could order an execution.

No public legal process led to Mr. Awlaki’s becoming the first American citizen to be placed on the C.I.A.’s list of Qaeda-linked terrorists to be captured or killed. Officials said that every name added to the list underwent a careful, if secret, legal review. Because of Mr. Awlaki’s citizenship, the decision to add him to the target list was approved by the National Security Council as well.

The legal debate is complicated by the fact that precedents involve the military detention of Americans who sided with the enemy during World War II — not the killing of Americans in a highly unconventional war against terrorists.

“What’s tricky here is that many people don’t accept that this is a war,” Professor Chesney said. “I don’t think there has ever been a case quite like this.”

It was, of course, Mr. Awlaki’s very American qualities — his fluency in the language and culture of the country where he spent half his life — that made him such a dangerous radicalizing force.

The American-educated son of an American-educated Yemeni technocrat, Mr. Awlaki embodied the puzzle of radicalization: How could an American citizen reach the point of calling in eloquent English, via the megaphone of the Internet, for the mass murder of his fellow citizens?

His eerily calm religious justifications for violence, recycled across the Web for years, had a profound impact on a small number of young Muslims in the United States, Canada and Britain. In a score of plots since 2006, investigators discerned Mr. Awlaki as an important influence — his written, audio and video sermons stored on hard drives, e-mailed among conspirators and treated as a clerical imprimatur for their deeds.

Mr. Awlaki was born in 1971 in Las Cruces, N.M., where his father was a graduate student in agricultural science. He moved to Yemen with his parents at the age of 7 and attended school in the conservative Muslim country, where he later told friends he had been thrilled by tales of Yemeni men fighting the Russians in Afghanistan.

At 19, he was sent back to the United States to attend Colorado State University. He completed an engineering degree, but by then had discovered his knack for preaching. He became the imam in mosques in Denver, San Diego and the Virginia suburbs of Washington, and collections of his sermons became best sellers on CD. He showed a moderate face to the public; the nature of his contacts with at least two of the future Sept. 11 hijackers remains a mystery.

Though Mr. Awlaki denounced the Sept. 11 attacks, he was angered by the government investigations of Muslim organizations that followed. He moved to London in 2002 and eventually to Yemen, where he was imprisoned in 2006 and 2007.

After his release, he created an English-language Web site, blog and Facebook page that drew tens of thousands of visitors, putting out a message that grew steadily more approving of anti-Western violence. He first came to broad public attention in November 2009, after he praised as a hero Nidal Malik Hasan, the Army major accused of killing 13 people at Fort Hood in Texas.

Unlike Osama bin Laden, whose convoluted Arabic-language Web messages struck many Western Muslims as foreign and strange, Mr. Awlaki’s unaccented English, sprinkled with colloquial Americanisms, often hit its mark. He leaves an ineradicable electronic legacy, on CD and on the Web, and for those drawn to jihad, his death in an American missile strike may give his story a new gloss of martyrdom.

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^ Yazdi, it's hard to comment on this issue because any comment related to him would come on 'Big Daddy's' radar. It's probably why not a lot of people said much on this issue on here.

I guess we will never find out what the real deal was and if any of these allegations were right in the first place. If he was really responsible, then he deserved to be punished for it but after a fair trial of course.

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inna lillahi wa inna ilahi raji'un

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I have heard his sermons on CD's, i have to say the guy had immense knowledge of Islam, if he really is dead inna lillahi wa inna ilahi raji'un

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they want to kill all the good influential ulema. you can see his popularity amongst the youth in north america.

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So he joined a terrorist organization hell bent on murdering innocent people in the name of Islam?
Did he skip that part in the koran about NOT killing innocents in his long study of Islam?

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So he joined a freedom struggle in his home country Yemen. What's wrong with that? You're not against freedom are you?

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No he joined Al Qaeda, and promoted the murder of innocent people..
U dont support the murder of innocent people do you?

Speak your mind friend. If you support terrorists, and the murder of innocents, then say it... Why are you trying to cloak your true intentions?

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It is you who support terrorists and killing of innocent people.

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Really? And where is your evidence of this?

I support Islam my friend. And I support the rights of INNOCENT people, which is incumbent on all Muslims...

Do you support ISLAM or do you support criminal terrorists and fitnah? You should make up your mind.

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Evidence is all over the forum, my friend. You supporting American NATO actions on the innocent people and call it war. That is not supporting Islam.

I support the struggle for freedom, be they Muslim or not. They have the right to fight for their people. Imam Anwar did just that. Thanks to God I don't fall for the same pathetic propaganda that you gladly accept as truth.

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NATO doesn't attack innocent people. Neither does America.
If u truly supported justice and freedom then u wouldn't support such criminals.

Propaganda to u is anything that doesn't compliment you narrative. Reality and facts are not your friends apparently.

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Thank you for proving your support of these terrorists.

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So another words, you have no evidence you just have your opinion.

So you claim the US and NATO kill innocent people.
You have no proof, yet you still make this claim.

This is akin to false testimony. Here is what Islam says on the matter…
**Ibn Abbaas

said, “Giving false testimony and concealing testimony is one of the major sins.”**

False testimony is one that is baseless whatever the reason may be*. *Ibn Hajar

said*, “False information is to describe something in contrary to its actual form..”**
And avoid false statement." ***[Quran 22:30]
**At-Tirmithi

and others reported that the Prophet

delivered a sermon one day and said, “O you people! Giving false testimony is equal to ascribing partners to Allaah.” He then recited*, “So avoid the uncleanliness of idols and avoid false statement.”*** **

So JANJUA39, do you stand with Islam, and Allah SWT, or are you among those who ascribe partners to Allah?

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Looks like we have a Bill O’reilly of Gupshup here. Trying to stir sh up.

You want proof? Go read the censored news for starters. Try LIBYA.

What a shame your justifying the evil of NATO/AMERICA by using holy texts! Shame on you.