Islamic State, Non-Muslims & Apostacy

Re: Islamic State, Non-Muslims & Apostacy

  • Well the Holy Prophet Muhammad SAW tolerated Mushrekeens in Mekkah after the he and his 10000 companions entered Mekkah

  • Somewhere in Hadith (i'm not sure though) it's also mentioned that the Holy Prophet Muhammad SAW let some christians who came to meet him offer their prayers in the holiets place for Muslims (the Khana ka'aba). Let me verify this though !!!!

  • Salahuddin Ayubi tolerated Jews in Jerusalem and muslims tried everything to protect them form the slaughtering Knights

  • Ottoman Empire tolerated (and even protected them) Jews in what is today Bosnia ..... This was when the Jews fled Spain that fell to Christians after being under Muslim rulers for 700 years. Now there were Jews and Christians safe to live and follow their belief .....

The Quran states that if those who enforce a war (or a fight) on u then u shall fight them until either they call for truce (which as a Muslim u shall follow) or convert to Islam

Islam is the way to make ur life (and that of ur environment/surroundings/Neighbours) easy in everyday life ...... If it does the opposite then it's not Islam ...... A muslim is someone who doesn't hurt others with his tongue and his hand

If u have doubts about any scholars, Mullahs speech etc. etc. then always look out for how the Holy Prophet Muhammad SAW spent his life and this indeed is the best Teaching of its sort

Re: Islamic State, Non-Muslims & Apostacy

Captain1, I'm talking about people who are not ahl-e-kitaab.

I thought like an atheist is not allowed to live in the state. I don't have sources, but if you're so certain of your words, can you tell me where it says that a non ahle-kitaabi is allowed to live in an Islamic state?

The reason why I say this is because an atheist would technically be a kaafir. A disbeliever. So the Quran has said in numerous places to fight the kaafir, and well, the hadith's are heavily filled with such quotations. The only thing I'm not certain of is whether this fighting can only be upon provokation by the kaafirs, or if you're just not permitted to tolerate a kaafir in an Islamic state.

That's why I say, the logical option for them would be to move out of the Islamic state.

I do agree with you that they're not allowed to preach. But atheists actually don't preach anything. They don't believe in religion.

Re: Islamic State, Non-Muslims & Apostacy

No extreemism.
I said that in relation to something that you didn’t understand. The way these people spread “fitnah” it is really essential to sentence them… and when they speak of Pakistan and their “equal” rights, it really tickles me to hear their non-sense claim. They make holes in the plate they eat. Cut the root that nurtures them. Live in your home and conspire against you. The list of their criminal offenses is too long, and you need to know that before you label anything extreemism based on the apparant “comments” themselves.

P.S. In fact, it has always been hard for me to understand what is your point of view in any argument as your comments are too unstable and labile and that is why, I run into an argument with you always.

Re: Islamic State, Non-Muslims & Apostacy

If you remove the bias from your eyes, you’d yourself find logic in my quote. Thank you.

Re: Islamic State, Non-Muslims & Apostacy

I know that.

There is no ruling that I know of which says that an atheist cannot live in an Islamic state, so until you bring one such ruling I’ll stay on that view.

What do you know about “dhimmi”? Anyone who opposes enforcement of Sharia in Islamic state is to be fought against, Quran doesn’t say to kill all kafirs regardless.