Re: Islamic Marriages: What is their point?
My Nana had a preference for getting his daughters married young - mymum at 18 and my khala at 17), much to the horror of everyone else in my family
Makes them sound like cattle. A culture thing I know...
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Why do u care at what age people get married?
why dont u start an organization denouncing it and try to stop it from every occurring again?
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you know the culture thing? That tells us that in your culture, that you know, marrying sounds like cattle. very bad very bad. I now know the reason why marriage is considered lesser than living together now.
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I don’t know what age it is exactly but i know my child won’t get married until they are ready probably after their masters degree.
Hitting puberty and all that i am not sure if i can accept that.
now thats my opinion.
All of you who mentioned it sho uld be at puberty. So i assume you guys are all married with 3 kids by now 
talk about what eactly goes on.
Why was Prophet PBUH married Hazrat Khadija at the age of 25 ?
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AQ, as MS stated it was "a horror" much to his family that he was "marrying them off" at a young age. Does that mean MS's family members are calling marriage a horror?
Try not and put words in other peoples mouths, you won't get far.
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I'm happy with opening a discussion on gupshup, but thanks for your suggestions.
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Try not and put words in other peoples mouths, you won't get far.
ok... I will not translate it further....
Can you tell us whether you approve of teenage sex without wedlock? or even a sex without wedlock for that matter?
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Do I approve? I don't have a seal or stamp if that's what you’re asking. I do believe that everyone should personally decide for themselves if they want to have sexual relations before marriage and I also believe if your main reason of marrying someone is to have sex with them then that realtionship is on a faulty foundation.
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Perhaps you should stop sacrificing your sacred principles and live where your interpration of religion and culture do not so obviously conflict with the society from which you are so comfortably enjoying the benefits.
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Actually, I am sorry, dogs and humans are not equal here.. dogs can live with you in your homes but your parents can't. They go to old's people home... my bad
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How many different ways can you insult and state that you abhor the culture of my country? In your zeal to insult with such broad generalizations, I guess you'd have no idea that I care for my elderly mother and would never ship her off for someone else to take care of.
Such generalizations are no different than a redneck American lumping all Muslims together with some demeaning characteristic.
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Sem: my words hurt .. right?
I thougth so 
and for your last line, thank you… we expect the same from you too…
by the way, This earth belongs to ALLAH:swt: and He provides me however He wants… who are you to tell me to go away from here… I will live here as long as ALLAH wills and I will continue to get my share as long as Allah Wills… Be jealous and be angry as you may wish 
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I think there are certain differences in todays society and the one centuries ago. Back then females did not have much to do in terms of education as today and ones options were limited to few ways to earn a living meaning education was emphasized but not as complicated as today. Trade was the main source of income.
Maturity comes from the environment you live in and the society you move around in. Back then women were better prepared for marriage even at younger ages provided they reached puberty in woman terms meaning if you start menstruate then you can bare children. In a womans life education was definitely not the number one priority or the fact they may even end up being an earning member of the household (there are exceptions, our very own Hazrat Khadija is one).
Today society has changed and the norms of society have changed and so has the earning structure of a family to some extent. There is nothing wrong with early teen marriages if the teenagers are prepared for committing to it and understanding all that is involved in a married life. Look at societies or households where education is not number priority and you can find many successful examples of young age marriages. There are some where education is just as important and I have seen many teenage mothers pursue their careers even after having kids i.e. though this happens out of necessity or academic inclination or parental development so you can better educate your kids and understand what they will go through when they are pushed into their early careers.
I don't think there is any Islamic debate about teenage marriages. Our prophets SAW marriage to Hazrat Aisha should not taken as a sunah in the way that it should be practiced but it is a sunnah that demonstrates that Islam does not prohibit teen marriages if it there is some good in it. And please do not be confusing Aisha's young age marriage to it being consumated at that age as well. Infact there are many scholars and Islamic researchers who have proved this hadith to be wrong.
Like I said if it can be managed then there is no harm in it. For the western society there society has developed in such a way that they are not able to cope with early marriages because of the way their legal system treats minors. It is not discouraged because the teenagers are not sexually active but because they think marriage is only about sex and sex and pleasure. Westerners are not even ready for marriage after living half their lives, which is why they keep decrying teenage marriages. Their insurance systems and financial structure ends up in havoc when such things happen. There are really no moral grounds to prevent this because whats the sense of reaching puberty if you are not ready bodily for sex. The western society has failed to upbring their younger generation morally and mentally with the growth of their body. Their solution is introduce sex education than rather correct the morals of their people as described in religion. Sex education teaches biological facts not morale or mentally develops you for marriage. Infact there is every tool needed in western society to prevent child birth so free lance sex can run free without having to bare the burden of any moral or mental responsibility that comes with it. Like animals, just have intercourse, eat, sleep and live.
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So that’s your goal? To hurt? Does Allah tell you to do that too?
But don’t worry, that is not within your power to hurt me. Sorry if that disapoints.
It would be ignorant of me to generalize a whole religion, society, culture or country and I don’t do that.
Yes the earth does belong to God. But the rules, laws and culture belong to man. And you seem to have problems with everything about the US except I presume your freedom to practice religion, the high standard of living and all the other benefits that come with living in the greatest country on earth. Rest assured, I am not angry or jealous. But I would never sacrifice my principles to live in a country I hated just because it was better than the one I came from.
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Actually Islam does not ask women to earn for themselve, instead it provide resource periodically. Father/gaurdian in the begining then Husband then son.
So women need husband to provide resources for her in large part of her life plus the kids for emotional as well as financial support during the later part of her life. For a man obviously he needs a companion for life and kids so that he gets motivated to earn livelyhood for people other than himself
Of course you can live life independently (men and women ) but islamically marraige is recommended for every adult. Marraige is a foundation for Islamic Family
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All in all lets not get off topic with personal comments and statements. If you truly want to understand the Islamic point of view of early marriage, then please note that its not literally at the age of puberty, though there are many interpretations, most scholars agree that by the term "puberty" or "baligh" in Urdu, Islam is referring to age of maturity. Its the parents or guardians responsibility to determine that, but they cannot force anything. In the true spirit of Islam no woman can be married off without consent, and there are numerous incidents in Islamic history where Prophet Muhammad (may peace and blessings be upon him) prohibited forced marriages without the woman's consent. Therefore Islam gives permission to get married at a young age if the woman and "man" are mature enough to take the responsibilities that come with marriage.
Once again please dont judge an entire religion by the actions of a few, if its enlightenment and knowledge that you seek, leave your biases behind and discover the true message of Islam as declared in the Holy Qur'an and let your heart and mind guide you towards the truth.