Seeing the so-called QTV earning both through it advertisements sales plus chandah appeals recommending its favorites Trusts the so-called Islamic channels from different countries and in different languages in a fashion have started coming up with speed. A new channel Madni Channel has recently been seen. If its footings are to be believed then an era of Islam has just dawn on people of Pakistan and everyone just seeing this channel is becoming a true Muslim. However I found it very interesting that every green turban scholar coming on this Madni screen invariably has a book from where he keeps constantly reading and giving sermons. None of the scholars on this screen so far I have seen who has his own any verbal knowledge as like Dr. Israr Ahmed, Dr. Zakir Naik or Ahmed Dedat etc. Channels with a label of Islam is a good business as our simple believers in the name of Islam blindlytrust that every doctor, every medicine, every instrument commercial advertised on an Islamic channel can truly deliver and every Trust where a donation is gives reaches to the right hand. These simple believers do not know that each single Rupia given to such advertised charities on these Islamic channels is wasting your money haram similarly as is giving sacrificed skins and Fitrana to MQM which ultimately ends up into Altaf Bhai account in London. It can be judged from one fact that despite more than a month of so called Forex scandal not a single name has been disclosed who were the people sending money abroad. The informed circles know that there are more than 400 names of MQM people sending out money to London which includes Fitrana taken from my home. Since I believe Fitrana paid to MQM despite knowing it is not correct, I separately then again pay to quarters I believe right.
Another thing to which I have no answer is that all the |”Hazrrat” Sahibs appearing on these TV channels may it be QTV or Madni Channel from their appearance look exactly like “Mujawars” from Datadarbar, Abdulla Shah Gazi Mazar with “Dauus” body, “Karahat” face expressions. The religion brings softness but faces appearing on these channels except for respected Dr. Israr Ahmed, Tahirul Qadri etc give you an uncomfortable feelings.
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Yeah anyone have any opinions on these channels? I know they offer QTV in America, but I haven't bothered subscribing to it.
I don't find a 24 hour channel on Islamic preaching to be exactly a productive use of television time - it can basically be misused for brainwashing. Secondly, all I ever see on some of these shows is people just lecturing about some verse or other. I don't ever see them giving practical sermons about how to view life, how to live it, how to approach it - the "philosophy" aspect of Islam is just never touched upon.
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^ some programs on QTV, are very informative and do talk about how to live life in general that even non-Muslims can appreciate. I especially like couple of Muftis on there that speak with not only keeping sharia in mind but explain every little detail that goes with the issue.
you will find it funny how people will subscribe to MTV but when it comes to Islam, they will question and beat the channel to death, and at the end of the day will not subscribe for whatever little knowledge. (this i am speaking about general public).
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MTV does not try to indoctrinate you with religious beliefs, that's the difference. There is something called balance, which even Islam is fully supportive of. Even the Prophet discouraged reading prayers to the point where you were forgetting to tend to your responsibilities and live your life, so I don't understand how a 24 hour channel on Islam even plays into Islam's advice on balance between deen and duniya. You'd think a truly muslim channel would be more like some of the other channels - where they show a mix of news, dramas, and religious shows.
There is something called an "ego" and don't think the "religious" population is any less prone to it.
In a country where everything else seems to be going to hell, all these people can do is start 24 hour religion channels? Seems a bit off, don't you think?
And also remember, there is no such thing as "clergy" in Islam. If you read up on a topic, and wanted to be on a show to teach a topic, you could very well do it too. You do not need to have some Mufti or Mullah title to pull that. But that's not what I see. I see a small group of people who keep coming up in all the shows as if they're some set of Pakistani clergymen or something, which they are not.
What's worse isn't even that its a 24 hour channel. Plenty of religions have those (I wonder what your views are on EdTV?). Its that these shows mostly involve one maulvi sitting in front of a camera passively lecturing you about a topic, admonishing you about your behavior, and basically behaving like a father does to his misbehaved children. Not exactly what someone wants to tune into after coming home from work or school. There are almost no hosts that an average secular layman can relate to. There is sometimes intimidation in the way the hosts behave and in their mannerisms. And as a poster above said - its like they have no roshni/noor to their faces. This is scary stuff. If you want to have a 24 hour religion channel, then it really needs to be revamped. What I've seen of QTV previews is enough to scare me, and I'm not expecting much out of other shows. Is there a particular show you think defies my theories? Please post up a youtube video or something, and we'll analyze it.
MTV does not try to indoctrinate you with religious beliefs, that's the difference. There is something called balance, which even Islam is fully supportive of. Even the Prophet discouraged reading prayers to the point where you were forgetting to tend to your responsibilities and live your life, so I don't understand how a 24 hour channel on Islam even plays into Islam's advice on balance between deen and duniya. You'd think a truly muslim channel would be more like some of the other channels - where they show a mix of news, dramas, and religious shows.
There is something called an "ego" and don't think the "religious" population is any less prone to it.
In a country where everything else seems to be going to hell, all these people can do is start 24 hour religion channels? Seems a bit off, don't you think?
And also remember, there is no such thing as "clergy" in Islam. If you read up on a topic, and wanted to be on a show to teach a topic, you could very well do it too. You do not need to have some Mufti or Mullah title to pull that. But that's not what I see. I see a small group of people who keep coming up in all the shows as if they're some set of Pakistani clergymen or something, which they are not.
put a kid in front of MTV for some time, u will see how he comes out.. common sense.
so it's fine to have a 24/7 music channel but oh no, how dare they launch an islamic channel?!
it's out of respect we call our teachers, Maulanas or Mufti.. we don't go "Ahmad, teach me something" or "Muhammad, I disagree! (i dont know anything about topic but i disagree anyway)"
how do you see? you said you have not subscribed to QTv, so how?
seriously, people need to take a break.. when Islam points out the negative aspects of owning a tv, they go all crazy and when Islam is being introduced using this TV, same reaction.. from the same crowd.. grow up
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qtv comes for free, as do most other international channels, when they're doing promotions. so most people who have pakistani channels may have noticed free qtv transmission when they were flipping through channels. (some of us flip through channels, rather than sticking to one channel focused on only one kind of topic...).
No one is saying MTV is a good influence or a bad influence. Why is the defense mechanism always to pull in something American and point out how bad it is, whenever something about muslims is being criticisized?
I don't have any malintentions to Islam, so why are you fighting so much? But, yes, if muslims are doing something wrong, isn't it in my responsibility to challenge them? This is part of the very Islam that you're suggesting we should not challenge any 24 hour channel based upon it.
Religion is a very powerful topic. It can change your life for the positive, if its represented and presented correctly. If not, it can completely damage you. And we're seeing that with jihadi groups out there who are fighting and taking innocent lives. There are some things that simply are not part of Islam which get propagated on these channels like:
Anything that gets said on QTV by a maulvi should never be challenged (which is incidentally not the same thing as saying, we should not challenge the Quran)
Its ok for me to wear monotone colors and talk in my monotone voice about Islam in a way that doesn't excite/interest anyone about the religion.
Its ok for me to discuss Islam on TV in language of very high Urdu and very complicated terminology, thereby alienating young people who might be interested in a religion channel.
Its ok for me to put my own spin on a verse and then present it and expect people to lap it up. Case in point, whenever women's topics comes up, its very interesting to here all these guys - I cannot name one who actually represents fairly Islam's true view on women, and can actually guide women regarding specific issues they have. Nor are women referred to on individual terms - its always in the context of her duty as a mother, or a wife. Islam plays much more into a woman's life than that!
No actions on these channels to persuade people AGAINST suicide bombing and terrorism. They even admitted in some talk shows they're afraid to campaign for these issues on these channels becasue they're afraid of being attacked by a suicide bomber.
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ive watched hours of Qtv and I can tell you (even though I do not agree with some of their practices), they do have some scholars on there that speak with wisdom, don't know where u get that bias point from. the fact is, women are the ones calling up the show most of the times. i wonder why..case in point?
Qtv is a Pakistani channel, language is Urdu, so? if ur interested in english, there is peaceTv, IslamChannel..
i will again disagree with you on "no action against suicide bombing and terrorism".. ive heard them say it's haram but they don't need to tell us that when they teach us about the peaceful message, automatically we learn that what should be avoided. it's like a parent will not tell you explicitly "NOT to drink alcohol", but they create an environment for you in which you learn what to do and not do.
again, nothing is perfect or will ever be perfect. all we can do is take the good, leave the bad and pray for the illiterate.
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Women are calling up all the time because the men of Pakistan have kept the truth about Islam and its treatment towards women hidden from them. The same population now makes up the maulvi population in general in Pakistan. True there are some good learned aalims anywhere, but the majority of the muslim population in Pakistan is very ignorant of Islam, and its the "clergy" that are responsible for it. You don't see educated phD's on this network as much as you see this same "clergy" on it.
If they're going to have a channel on Islam, then they better be keeping people of good educational background on Islam on the channel. I don't see that - there are too many hosts who are simply on there because they're some respected figure from some community or the other - nevermind the fact that they probably never went to college.
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Ooooops hot but informative debate going on :k:
I like few Q TV programs like Dr.Tahir lectures and few others 
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There are soo many different Islamic channels, following different sects of Islam and schools of thought. One does have to be careful and not blindly follow what is being said on a channel - even if it’s Islam channel!
Oh btw, Madni does sound fishy 
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Freedom only applies to non-muslims. How do people forget that?
CP I love how you have so much patience and always speak up when some one is blabbing on and on. Good for you bro.
CP, I love how you have so much patience and speak up when others are blabbing on and on. Good for you bro. 