Re: ► Islami Jamhoriya Pakistan Kay Gaddi Nasheen Aur Jageer Daar
So, we need wajad & haal to remember Allah
Being an Aashieq-e-rasool We should follow life of Nabi Pak and not create our own things like wajad & haal to remember Allah.
Kia hamaray 4 baray khulfay rashdeen par yah Wajad aaya ?
Mujhay par kabhi wajad naheen aaya to iss ka matlub hay main Allah ko naheen chahta hoon ? Mairi Namazoon ka koi faida naheen keonkah mujh par jub tuk wajad naheen aay ga main Allah ko yaad naheenkar sakta hoon (nauzbillah)
Re: ► Islami Jamhoriya Pakistan Kay Gaddi Nasheen Aur Jageer Daar
:mirch:
Jub kissi kay pass sawaloon kay jawab naheen hotay to woh yahi kahta hay I can imagine your condition while reading my above post
BTW agar Rasool Pak key life par kissi ko chalanay par naseehat karnay say mujhay bura bhalla kaha jay to mujhay iss par fakhar hay
Re: ► Islami Jamhoriya Pakistan Kay Gaddi Nasheen Aur Jageer Daar
Sannan , very well said .. Alhumdullillah Allah has given us ilm and knowledge to know the different between the truth and the falsehood ...
Unfortunately many of these people are too busy following and justifying the biddats and they will have no justifiable answers when someone says Prophet or khulfa didnt do it , there is nothing about it in the Quran , so why do it ?
Khair, to each their own , may Allah open their hearts and minds and forgive their biddat actions ..
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Allah hum sub ko Quran-e-Pak parhnay aur iss par amal karnay toufeeq ata farmay aur Rasol-e-pak kay batay hoye rastay par chalnay key toufeeq ata farmay (ameen)
Re: ► Islami Jamhoriya Pakistan Kay Gaddi Nasheen Aur Jageer Daar
Shukar hay :)
leekan Allah karay kissi aur ko bhi yaqeen aa jay :p
That is why Allah Rab-e-Zuljalal says in Quran-e-Hakeem that, "Vama Alaina Illal Balagh"
Translation: "Aur Hamaray Zime to bas pohcha dena hay aur bas."
Duty as a Muslim for all of us is to correct someone if he/she is misguided, if he/she is not convinced then, it is his/her choice. BTW, that's is the reason Shurtays at Roza-e-Rasool (SAWW) in Madina would whip anyone with cain if anyone attempts to do any such act to prevent anyone from doing Biddat.
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Peace brother, very much agreed with your opinion. I think people from south Asia e.g Pakistan call Hadrah so called dance or stupidity due to the limited knowledge in Sufisim. It’s mostly known famous among Syrian Shykh’s , Persians and Arabs
who said you have to create things yourself either haal or wajad? This Hadrah is famous among sufis and sufis are the people who have got nothing to do with this world, they already lose themselves in Allah’s love and they are the people who come in state of wajad or hall. If you talking about typical videos on YT ,they are not presenting the clear view of sufi hadrah that’s why some people take it as like dumb people are dancing.
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Yah haal aur wajad kissi aur Sahabi ya Rasool pak par koen naheen aaya ? kia yah sufi aur chars peetay malang unn say barh kar Allah say pyaar kartay hain (nauzbillah) …
I’m sure u’ll support kawan walli sarkar as well who was a mad person and most of the time ate water melons and crow always there to eat remaining parts of water melon. Now he has died and people visit his tomb and ask his help to solve their problems.
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[note]please guys this is not the proper forum to be discussing islamic teachings, like The one n only me has pointed out better avenue for that would be religious forum[/note]
Re: ► Islami Jamhoriya Pakistan Kay Gaddi Nasheen Aur Jageer Daar
ab app khulfa e rashdeen ki baat per agayi,**new point **evry time…app per haal ya wajad abhi nai sakta uss kai liyai roh ki pakeezgi ki zaroorat hoti hai jo sirf ALLAH kai bargudidah bandoon kai pass hi hota hai..aur un per bhi jin kai dil ALLAH ki yaad sai narm hotein hain i.e Aulia ALLAH..
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kai main nay Rasol-e-pak key hayaat-e-tayyaba par chalnay say mana kia hay ? When you people don’t ve any answer then you just start this type of talks
hahaha so called islamic forum of Tahir …**I’ve proved my point of view with Quran ** I don’t think so that you ll neglect Quran-e-Pak (nauz billhah) but if you do the same and just going back to Tahir’s forum then i can just pray for you.
PS: Bibi, please try to read Quran and understand what has been written inside it …
BTW you can take blood pressure pills
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so it means tamam sahaba jinn par haal aur wajud naheen aata tha woh mujh ghunahgaar jaisay thay (nauzbillah) ..Agar aisa hay to I’m proud to be that kind person.
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Sorry MOD for replying after your none but actually the only n only replied after your post and If i don’t reply her then in every post she start signing that give reply of my post
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Peace brother, very much agreed with your opinion. I think people from south Asia e.g Pakistan call Hadrah so called dance or stupidity due to the limited knowledge in Sufisim. It's mostly known famous among Syrian Shykh's , Persians and Arabs
who said you have to create things yourself either haal or wajad? This Hadrah is famous among sufis and sufis are the people who have got nothing to do with this world, they already lose themselves in Allah's love and they are the people who come in state of wajad or hall. If you talking about typical videos on YT ,they are not presenting the clear view of sufi hadrah that's why some people take it as like dumb people are dancing.
Very well said.. but don't you think in a society where even educated people have tendency to misinterpret / twist facts (even verses from Quran) for their agenda, the practices like Haal and Wajd provide another tool to those so called Sufis to exploit the people?
So, we need wajad & haal to remember Allah 
and not create our own things like wajad & haal to remember Allah.
I can imagine your condition while reading my above post 
