Some interesting thoughts put forward by Ayaz Mir in his weekly column for DAWN:
“It is no use saying that Islam is a religion of peace or that there is a foul plot afoot to misrepresent Islam and blacken its name when from Bali to Madrid to London it is Muslims who are behind acts of terrorism. To outsiders a religion is known by the fruits it produces and if the present brand of terrorism has a Muslim substance to it, it becomes difficult to sell the ‘true meaning of Islam’. It is like trying to say that what was practiced in the Soviet Union was not true communism. No one has the time or inclination to grapple with such fine theories.”*
And I have to agree with what he is saying. No one has time to listen to stupid Muslim representatives after every bombing incident trying to explain that these bombers are not one of us. Yeah right!!! For God sake….If they are not one of us then where are they from? Are they Jewish? I mean, just look at the names of these terrorists. Shezad Tanveer, Haseeb Hussain!! Do they sound strange to any of us? I love when Ayaz said that no one has time to grapple with such fine theories. Really no one has time to listen to these stupid speeches anymore. It is clearly getting monotonous.
Let me make one thing crystal clear. The hypocrite Muslims living in the West, including myself, should understand that they cannot have the best of both worlds forever. I know countless Muslims here in USA who, in the privacy of their homes with their Muslim friends, justify these terror acts attributing them to American Invasion of Middle East and Western Imperialism. Ok fine, you have absolutely every right to be entitled to your own opinion but brother, don’t sing to a different tune when you are at your office with your fellow western co- workers just because you don’t want to quit the West. The point I am trying to make that the Western World will run out of patience very soon and instead of listening to your stupid analogies that “those terrorist are not one of us” they are going to grab you from your collar and throw you in ocean with your families. And I say why not.
So:
a) Either the Muslims in West should come out clean and stop displacing the blame on USA for everything with a full realization of the very fact that there is something that has gone terribly wrong with the interpretation of their religion Islam among their young generation in last 20 years or so and it is about time to do something concrete about it.
OR
b) They should have the guts to stand up in the same western societies where they live and point out collectively the causes behind the terrorism which they believe are the real catalysts for these incidents. Write articles in newspapers, arrange conferences etc.
But one has to quit the double life otherwise inevitable reality would occur anyway!!
Re: “Islam is the religion of peace and these terrorists are not from us”…
It was a setup until the evidence proved otherwise. Now it is a result of the west’s foreign policy. Didn’t take too long to come up with excuse # 2, did it?
But when did any foreign policy of any country in history have fanatics blow themselves up and take as many others with them as possible to protest it? It could be argued than any one with any radical point of view can now start a massive homicide bombing campaign to change a government’s policy… anti-abortionists, 10 Commandment warriors or PETA freaks.
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The only way it will become the religion of peace when the perverted Muslim nations stop getting off over the blood of innocent civilians and send a clear message to jihadies that killing innocent people is against Islamic beliefs. True the kaffirs kill Muslim civilians indiscriminately though that shouldn't be an excuse to make halal what has been declared haram to begin with. It is lack of the Muslim imman in Allah (swt) that has made the Muslim desperate in their struggle.
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^ i agree.
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But when did any foreign policy of any country in history have fanatics blow themselves up and take as many others with them as possible to protest it?
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India and tamil tigers. read up on em.
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The jihadi apologists say that the bombers were not Muslims but also claim that the bombings were due to "injustice" towards Muslims.
What a blatant contradiction.
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where exactly does the contradiction lie? can the bombers not be misguided in their belief that Islam allows this sort of thing, while there existing genuine grievances against the west in the Muslim world?
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Read the posts of the guppie jihadis. They are claiming that the “real” bombes were spies or Jews or “government agents” - and NOT Muslims. If that was the case, then the bombings are NOT a result of “Muslim grievances” are they?
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ah well.. i guess i didnt have that perspective in mind.
i guess my attempt to explain that worldview would be that while they loathe the bombings enough to insist that they werent the handiwork of Muslims, they feel that in the aftermath to those bombings (by jews waghera), genuine Muslim grievances, that do fuel a lot of resentment will get brushed under the carpet, and all that resentment will be tied to the resentment of the suicide bombers as portrayed in the media. and thus all attempts at getting those grievances redressed will be regarded as compromising or talking with suicide bombers/terrorists by western audiences, who by the way are rapidly associating Muslim grievances with terrorist agendas.
so they advocate their grievances while insisting that this wasnt the work of Muslims.
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coming back to the same point…How could british muslims say that shazad tanweer is “not one of them”…indeed, he is very much one of them…he was born and raised in a typical pakistani family in UK…he was not born and raised in an old mdarrassah in NWFP but he went to modern schools in UK and recieved a red Mercedes Sedan from his father as a gift…the point being that muslims cannot get away by saying “they are not one of us”…it is time to take some responsibiltiy…
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pd, if we agree that 'not one of us' is being applied to shehzad tanweer, as opposed to some vague anti-Muslim entity, then it does have the same connotation as someone having a serious enough misinterpretation of Islam as to not be adhering to it anymore, while 'us' comprises of those Muslims who are in the majority and do believe the indiscriminate killing of random people to be an abominable act. so basically those who say hes not one of us are taking the first approach of the two approaches you offered.
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After every terror strike, there is a certain Islamic media which stats proving non-involvement of Muslims.
Here are some gruesome acts committed by terrorists in last five years. How many Muslims really accept that there was no 'design'?
1. 9/11
2. Godhra
3. Akshya Dham
4. Nord-Ost
5. Beslan
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wat a freak world.
you kick someone out of his house and when he retalliates u label him terrorist.
you kill innocent ppl and say 'i m sorry it was accidental' wat a nice excuse.
there is a limit to everything but i think there is no limit to stupidity of those who think its ALL muslims to b blamed for everything..
R u ppl deaf/dumb/handicapped to think wat goes around u is Injustice and it only creates more injustices.
why dont u see the root of it instead of jumping every now and then 'we condemn muslim terrorists' So do i. but u should have the guts and admit the injustices towards muslims.
the Massacre of serbrenica just passed and tell me how many of u condemned or said a word abt that.
BS
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Boota,
I did not see you post anything during anniversaries of Darfur or East Pakistan massacres.
No one hurt any of the London bombers' families. They were not Iraqis or Palestinians. No one appointed them to "retaliate" for anyone. Their families got rich thanks to Western benevloence and liberal immigration policies. Instead of thanking their host, they become namak haram. They have no right to do anything like this.
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I aint making no apologies to britain or anyone else if you want a scrapegoat go to 10 downing street, London and ask that thug in their why he has a guilty conscience!
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PD is the leader of the KKK like you (you are an american after all?) Is Micheal Jackson like you? Are these two one of your society? Are not the human rights violaters in the US army responsible for Abu Gharib one of yours? Its time people take some responsibility indeed.
