"Islam is a perfect religion"

[deedawar]

Peace Shogun Ninjuku

I see what you mean now. However, the argument is still limited. You now sound like a fruitarian and not a vegetarian. Nuts and Fruits can be eaten and their waste is what ensures further growth of the species. However, in the case of vegetables we actually eat them.

To me eating a mango and putting the seed in the ground to grow more mango trees is a touch excessive. If every mango is a potential tree then nature itself prevents ALL mangoes from becoming trees. The chances are of one may be two mangoe trees naturally growing from the mango seed (fruit) in the same vicinity of the parent tree. So all of those others seeds go to waste. Nature controls and curbs its own numbers ... that is all I am trying to say.

Humans are an integral part of that natural cycle.

As far as humane ways to grow and kill to eat animals you will not find better supporters than the educated Muslims on this front ... adding hormones, and ill-treatment of animals is against our beliefs.

^Good.

The survival of human being is more important in this world/universe than any other form of life...be it vegetable or animal..or aliens of any kind.

Plants are alive no question about it.

Plants at least individually lose life when consumed by animals or human being.

Stating or believing that ALL LIFE FORM MUST NOT BE DESTROYED FOR THE SAKE OF NUTRITION is misguided.

Regardless of what happens to seed after fruit is consumed, living cells do die when fruit is picked out of tree. Seed merely represent a dormant state of life only to be awaken...again only to be awaken when right conditions are met otherwise even seed dies in 'vain'................

Hope my points are gotten across.

[chintu_bhopali]

Re: "Islam is a perfect religion"

ya we got ur point. You like nonveg.

[psyah]

ya we got ur point. You like nonveg.

Peace chintu_bhopali

That is absolutely our point! It is a matter of preference and not right or wrong. A Muslim can be a vegetarian if he so wishes. We are not obliged to eat meat, but it is considered a blessing that we would miss out on. However, we also assert that eating meat cannot be wrong for the reasons stated above. So the Hindus who do not eat meat cannot use meat eating as an argument against Islam or the Muslims on the basis that it is any way wrong. It is merely a matter of preference!

[ShiningStar]

salam, Zakat was not a new concept, jews have to pay tithe as per their scriptures. Now imagine zakat at 2.5% vs tithe at 10%, which one is going to solve the problem faster.

Bortherhood - does it include non muslims as well. On the other hand christianity says love thy neighbor as yourself, it say anything about the religion of the neighbor. what do you think is the better idea?

Honor of women - Yes this one of the good points of Islam, but as I see women are still opperessed in Islamic world. but that can be attributed to not implementing the true message.

waiting for your post regarding equality, muslim men vs muslim women and muslims vs non muslims.

wasalam

Light bearer brother.

Main nain kia daikha hai jub kuch hindu ghalat ya bura sabit naheen kar saktay muslims ko to wo Christian aur Jews ki misaal laay atay hain. Yay bhi naheen sochtay Unka religion bhi Allah hi ka sadir kia huwa hai aur saray rules bhi Allah kay diaay huway yay aur baat hain unhon nain apnay mutabiq kafi changing kar di hain.

Behar haal. 10% ya jitna % bhi jews main muqarrir hai Allah ka farmaya hi huwa ho ga. Agaain proves Islamic way of zakat.

Is mud main aap nain jo kaha hai 10% behtar hai na kay 2.5% to bhai yay to intehai kum aur farz hai Yani least you have to pay If you have more than you zaroorat. Maximum to aap 100% bhi day saktay hain 10% to us kay agay kuch naheen. Sahas nain aisa kia bhi hai kay sub ka sub day dia hai.

Yay to aap pay munhassir hai.

Yay batain aap kitna zakaat detain hain????

Hinduism main kitnay % zakat farz hai uskay baray main bhi kuch knowledge dain???? Aisay hi aik sawal dimagh main aa gia.

Brotherhood include whole human being.

[ShiningStar]

Re: "Islam is a perfect religion"

Aik aur Point jo kisi ka post main parha aur doosray websites main bhi parha hai aksar hindu's kahtay hain kay Slaughter of animals kay baray main to meray hindu bhaion aur behnon to aap jo pattay khatain hain wo bhi to jandaar hotay hain wo bhi khana chor dain. To insaan mar na jaay khaay baghair.

Naa animal khain na pattay ghass phoos kahain to bhai zindagi kay liaay to khana zaroori hai na khain to bhook say mar jain. Aap log darkhton patton ko kioon khana naheen chortay wo bhi to jandar hain.

Sirf musalmanon kay khilaaf hi janwaron ki himaayat karna hai aur Becharay jandar darakhton ko khana hai yay dohri policy kioon.

[Light_Bearer]

Peace Light Bearer

Peace to you.

I don't understand the question. After acknowledging that adherents are not the basis for judging Islam, rather the doctrine i.e. the Qur'an and authentic hadith are according to my previous post you have just ignored that. Your question had it been correct would have shown that the doctrine of Islam has remained unchanged through time. So Islam today is the correct version. Muslims however, cannot be held to ransom on that basis. Muslims in todays world are not as (generally) speaking as upright as Muslims closer to the time of Muhammad (SAW). The people are corrupted by x, y and z. Not the relgiion!

Read my earlier post where I said that I may be wrong on understanding what you were saying.

It seems I have given you context and you have chased it as though it is a premise. I blame lack of global or collective morality for the fact that Muslims are not as adherent to Islam these days, not Islam, which provides freedom to choose.

Freedom to choose - Please eloborate a bit more with an example.

Which is better than some deceivers, so you have your truthfulness in your favour. May it be a beacon for you to lead you towards the truth of Islam.

I hope one day it will.

I stand corrected. Then let me modify my claim. Due to Islam being the correct manifestation of the Abrahamic religions I therefore need to assert when I say monotheism I mean Islamic monotheism, which is distinct from the way it is understood by the other People of the Book.

Ok but do you agree or not that more people are turning away from God than coming towards Him.

I agree 2.5% should be the constant that we should consider, but we also need to consider how well the religion encourages further charity above and beyond this. I also do not understand what you mean by 2.5% being too less. Wasalam to you too.

Less being compared to 10%.

peace psyah,

how can the entire body be indestructable? the material of the body? hhmmm the verse contradicts itself,

"fight O descendant of bharata"

double standards?

why a hindu writer quotes a verse from the quran from surah taubah out of context, when that too is to the warriors on a battlefield? if the verse above is used out of context a similar book can be written about hindu's and terrorrism. jazakAllah for the source:)

wa'salaam

Physics 101. Matter cannot be created nor be destroyed. :)

Light bearer brother.

Bhai mein urdu mein aap say guftagoo kar sakta hoon lekin masla yeah hai kay urdu mein type karna or parhana aik azaab hai. So will reply in English. :)

Main nain kia daikha hai jub kuch hindu ghalat ya bura sabit naheen kar saktay muslims ko to wo Christian aur Jews ki misaal laay atay hain. Yay bhi naheen sochtay Unka religion bhi Allah hi ka sadir kia huwa hai aur saray rules bhi Allah kay diaay huway yay aur baat hain unhon nain apnay mutabiq kafi changing kar di hain.

When you say that they have made changes according to themselves you are merely voicing the Islamic concept. I mean it is written in Quran that there are changes in other Abrahamic books. Now no matter what christians or jews say in the explanation, even if its a valid explanation we cannot accept it because it would be going against the faith and quran.

Behar haal. 10% ya jitna % bhi jews main muqarrir hai Allah ka farmaya hi huwa ho ga. Agaain proves Islamic way of zakat.

Is mud main aap nain jo kaha hai 10% behtar hai na kay 2.5% to bhai yay to intehai kum aur farz hai Yani least you have to pay If you have more than you zaroorat. Maximum to aap 100% bhi day saktay hain 10% to us kay agay kuch naheen. Sahas nain aisa kia bhi hai kay sub ka sub day dia hai.

Yay to aap pay munhassir hai.

We are not arguing how much a person can give. We are talking about how much a person has been asked to give.

Yay batain aap kitna zakaat detain hain????

None as zakat. A much more than 2.5% as charity though.

Hinduism main kitnay % zakat farz hai uskay baray main bhi kuch knowledge dain???? Aisay hi aik sawal dimagh main aa gia.

I have no clue, maybe some Hindu guppy can answer that.

Brotherhood include whole human being.

True.