Islam could be new communism, Pell tells US audience
By Barney Zwartz
November 12, 2004
Islam could be the communism of the 21st century if the West does not
reform its secular democracy, Australia’s leading Catholic has said in
a speech in the United States.
The Archbishop of Sydney, Cardinal George Pell, said secular liberal
democracy was empty and selfish, and Islam was emerging as an
alternative world view that attracted the alienated.
In a speech in which he also attacked his critics for suggesting that
conservative Christians were a danger to democracy, Cardinal Pell said
communism had shown how the emptiness of the secular approach could be
filled with something darker.
“The small but growing conversion of native Westerners within Western
societies to Islam carries the suggestion that Islam may provide in
the 21st century the attraction which communism provided in the 20th,
both for those who are alienated or embittered on the one hand, and
for those who seek order or justice on the other.”
Dr Pell told the Acton Institute for the Study of Religion and Liberty
last month that secular democracy could not stop the rise of
intolerant religion and in fact worsened it. He said democracy was not
a good in itself. Its value depended on the moral vision it served.
Dr Pell said the “democratic personalism” he advocated, based on the
dignity of the person, was the last alternative to secular democracy
available to the West.
He said for a Catholic bishop to speak this way inspired panic and
derision in those with ideological convictions about secularism. Their
over-reaction was an attempt to silence opposition.
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inshalalh
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Insha Allah means if God desires. Well if you really believe what you just said, then read Sura Asr (Quran’s chapter named “Time”). In this chapter, God says that a believer has to do good deeds, remain just, and be patient, otherwise he would remain a loser forever.
Modern day Mullahtic idiotics may be considered believers, but they are not just. These Mullahs are neither doing good deeds nor are they patient.
The result is the decimation of Mullahtic idiotics as per God’s desire.
Which ummah destroyed the Crusaders, which ummah destoyed the Mongols which ummah destroyed the superpower of yesterday USSR and who will destroy the pathetic Capitalists inshallah in time not too far away?
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1. ummah destoyed the Mongols
2. ummah destroyed the Crusaders,
3. ummah destroyed the superpower of yesterday USSR
and who will destroy the pathetic Capitalists inshallah in time not too far away?
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Mongols is an older story. They relished the destruction of Baghdad and Ummah was crying Ammah. It is a different matter that Sufis were able to convert whole bunch of Mongols. But the Mullahs of today hate Sufism. So no hope for the Mullahs anymore.
Crusaders? You mean European armies trying to control Jerusalem. So the Europeans are now servants of Arrabobs?
Hmm! I knew USSR will come up sooner or later. Muj. were the faithful pawns in the great game between US and USSR. If you insist on using this example then a successful Ummah is simply a faithful pawn for the US.
"pathetic capitalism" is term used by "pathetic commies" and their modern day incarnation the "pathetic Mullahs".
Capitalism became a buzzword in the 19th century Europe. The idea of capitalism is long gone thanks to evolution in the monetary system of the world.
The new buzzword is "free market". So you should be praying for the destruction of "Free Marketism". Unfortunately you can't kill the free marketism because you are utterly dependent on "free and open access" to many things like Internet.
These jokers are so predictable always falling into the trap never mind children will be children
Islam is at its weakest and these kuffs are bricking themselves whats gonna happen when islam is established again. Lets face it capitalism is going to be kicked to the kerb just like Communism was its reality wheter you like it or not. USSR was superpower unbeatable where is it now cannot even defeat small band of fighters in chechnya
Amerikka the new so called superpower the bastion of capitalism they gonna be cut down to size and be same position as the USSR oooops sorry CIS ooops i mean Russia you catch my drift you western bum kissers!
I suppose where you come from you've never heard of World Bank,IMF,WTO,ITO,SAP and GATT?
If you weren't so obsessed by Mullahs, maybe you'd actually study capitalism and have an idea exactly how the capitalist movement actually operates and who it's drivers are. Yes it does actually exists and is not a fantasy on Mars!
The Ummah's been whooping you for over 1400 years and it will keep doing so for another 1400 years.
Check your history before making self inflicting comments.
Islam is at its weakest and these kuffs are bricking themselves whats gonna happen when islam is established again. Lets face it capitalism is going to be kicked to the kerb...
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China is going to shun capitalism and become an Islamic state?
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The Ummah's been whooping you for over 1400 years and it will keep doing so for another 1400 years.
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Hmmm! Another poster from Mad-russah claiming to be the defender of Ammah?
How long will it take for your guys to come out of the caves? Oh wait. You can't! Your amir OBL will be whooped as soon as he sets foot out of his cavey hujra.
We muslims need real LEADERS before anything else. The arabs in Egypt, Saudi Arabia and Syria need to revolt, for Islam sake. All the mini gulf states will automatically be free as well.
Off course Muslims destroyed USSR. Let there be no confusion, Mujaheedin Muslims destroyed USSR and not communist Muslims, I mean the Muslim puppet govt of Najeeb and others supported by USSR.
When we bash Bin Laden, also a Muslim, suddenly all Muslim media replies that Bin Laden was a creation of USA, America to destroy USSR supported regime in Afghanistan. At the same time the same media gossips that not America but Muslims destroyed USSR.
And next, after USSR retreated from Afghanistan, the Muslims start destroying each other that is North alliance vs Taliban, as they had nothing else to do. I wonder when they will take rest!
AK history does not understand this double standard, of who destroyed whom.
I was about to say well done you actually posted comments without having sour grapes and hatred against all things muslims then again i guess that would be far fetched would'nt it!
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If Islam is the new communism, then we are headed to a very bright future. Just as bright as China.
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Yeah right! Mullahtic idiotics cannot have a bright future. Chinese are progressing due to their strong work ethics. The more Muslim a country is the worst work ethics they have. Thank Allah that Pakistan is not as Islamic as Iran or SA, otherwise we will be sitting on a heap of sand while sipping gahwa.
