Islam and Muslim hating policy of this site

To all my Muslim Brothers and Sisters;

There is absolutely no doubt about the Islam and Muslim hating policies of this site. The management of this Site is deliberately closing the threads on the request of the Qadianis, wherever they are in trouble.

These people should be brought to their sense, I want all of us to unite and give them a loud and clear message to stop these policies immediately.

The latest example of this is given in the thread closed by Mr. Iconoclast He wrote on

But despite passage of three days he has not opened the thread. He is banking on us Muslims to forget about it and it stays closed. But I am not falling for his deceptive tactics.

**I demand him to open the thread immediately, I want all of you to stand up and point it to them. **

**I can assure you it is a deliberate policy; proofs are listed from my recent experience. **

He closed the thread “can Qadianis answers” on

But despite passing of almost one month he is not re-opened it.

He closed the thread “Mirza attack on ISA As of the Holy Quran”
He writes on;

**Another Moderator closed my thread “Prophecy of Mirza- death of his father” on the pretence of cleaning it. But now this thread is moved to “total trash”. **

Therefore, there is absolutely no doubt these people are following and applying deliberately and consistently Islam and Muslims hating policies.

We should ask them whose purpose are they serving on this site? Qadianis?

They should make their affiliations and beliefs know to us all Muslims. How many of them are Qadianis themselves? I am serious, and I demand answers.

**The administrators of this site should know, I am not writing empty rhetoric, but I am more then capable to take this issue forward. Doubt my resolve if you wish. But don’t say I didn’t warn you all. **

Mr. TLK gave this reply to me in his private message;

**Mr. TLK, you are making empty promises and clearly trying to divert the attention from your deliberate policies. I have seen enough proofs to come to my conclusions. **

**I have given you chance to explain yourself and your policies. But what you have written is condescending and insulting to all Muslims and me personally. Did you really think you are going to give me childish responses and I will buy your crap and empty promises? **

**The fact of the matter is you are deliberating following policies which are against Islam and Muslims and giving these Qadiani safe heavens to preach and spread their lies while blocking ever efforts by the Muslims to respond to them. You have been closing the threads on their instigations and demands. **

Here are the proofs.

**My Muslim brothers and sisters, first of all Mr. TLK banned my ID for one day, he wanted me to change my ID, he directed me to send him a private message that’s why I had private communications with him. Otherwise, I am not impressed from this man who is very proudly call himself “Director of GupShup”, he should know with title comes the responsibilities. I will hold him responsible for the actions of all his moderators and policies of this forum. **

Here is the proof why he banned me, on the request of a Qadiani.

Another qadiani made these comments;


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Does Mr. TLK thinks qadianis are a sect of Islam? If he does then he should state it in very clear tersm. But it does not stops here on the instigation of this Qadiani, who calls himself to belong to a sect of Islam, in another word a Muslim, Lucy decided to close my thread and moved it to total Trash.

**That article was written after careful investigation of the evidence available from this cult sources. It is written with due diligence and accuracy. I take complete legal responsibility of the contents of this article and challenge any Qadiani around the world to take me to a court of law and prove me wrong. **

In the presence of such confidence and offer from me on the accuracy of the contents of what I produced **who is this Luci to move it to total Trash? Who gave her this right to make this judgment? On the request of a Qadiani? Who is producing all kind of rubbish from the books of Mirza on this forum? **

He has done cut and paste job on each and every thread, but none of his threads were closed. On the contrary when a Muslim brother opened a thread, his thread was immediately closed by Iconoclast on the basis that cut and paste is not allowed.

**I ask Mr. Iconoclast do you have your eyes open? Do you want me to produce evidence after evidence from these Qadianis cut and paste jobs? You are out of your mind to make judgments. Stay in your limits and don’t show your ignorance and down right prejudice against Islam and Muslims. **

**You are proving you are an enemy of Islam and Muslims without shadow of a doubt. **

**But I am here to teach you a lesson. Open every damn thread, or face the consequences of your action. **

Another Qadiani complained.

**These Islam and Muslim hating administrators, should tell us Muslim, which religion Mirza belong to? He and his followers call him a Prophet and themselves “True Muslims” follower of “true Islam”. **

**My question to you Islam and Muslim hating people is very simple, is Mirza a religious figure of Islam? Just simple answer would do. Show your Islam hate in clear terms; declare in clear and precise terms that he is the religious figure of Islam. **

This are just a few examples but complaints section could be checked by the members to see that these Qadianis since my arrival are trying their best to stop me writing the truth on this site. **The administration of this site are in cahoots with these enemies of Islam and Muslims and aiding and abating them openly and regularly. **

I had enough of their policies.

Mr. TLK the so called director decided to ban me because one Qadiani gave him some rude meanings of my nick. Accusing me of selecting this nick on some rude pretence. This nick I had for over 3 years, I have given explanation of this nick 3 years ago, evidence I can produce anytime.

Despite me giving Mr. TLK meaning of the word “Crank” Mr. TLK still showed his remarkable ignorance and arrogance by writing;

**This ignorant and arrogant man instead of taking crank from my nick used jerking, the meaning given by the Qadiani. He not only ignored the meanings given by the Oxford dictionary for word Crank, but he insisted on his and qadianis meaning of “Jerk” forgetting my nick is crankthatskunk. **

I provided him earlier explanation I gave to another Muslim brother, but these explanations were also given to other Qadianis on other forum 3 years ago. I am entirely consistent in my approach and writings. **Probably TLK has the low thinking but not me. **

**He should keep his non-sense and crap to himself and recognize his responsibilities. He should be under no illusions I am here to take him on, and make him behave in a manner which is not against Islam and Muslims. Enough is enough. **

He further wrote;

Mr. TLK as I explained skunk stand for Mirza whole of my nick stand for **Cranking the skunk Mirza, the lowest of the low, the biggest enemy of Islam and Muslims. **

You Mr. TLK with your words and practices are aligning yourself with the enemies of Islam and Muslims. I would not allow you to do this. I am here to challenge you; stop this practices or I will show you what you are worth.

**Take it which ever way you want. But as you can see I don’t care what you think of yourself or how ignorant or arrogant you are, but I know what I can do, and I surely will do the needful. I am issuing you this clear warning. **

**Best you can do is to ban me. But I am going to write to the relevant authorities who have jurisdictions in the place you reside, with proofs and also take care of other issues. On the top of it, I am going to spread the word on the net against you and your site’s Policies, with proofs so Muslims become aware of you and your policies. **

**You probably have notice I am a different type of participant, you can not impress me. Maximum you can do is to ban me, but I will make you regret that decision this is my promise. **

**Mr. TLK I must warn you, I had been on many forums own and run by the Qadianis but even they were not able to ban me, nor they were able to change my style of writing. You have absolutely no legal rights to stop me telling the truth about these liars. They have the chance to take me to the court of Law if they can prove anything. Now back off, and open my threads immediately. There is nothing for your little Moderators to review in my threads. They do not have the authority or capability to review them. Take it as you want, but you wouldn’t be able to stop me from what I want to do. **

Mr. TLK can you sensor the books of Mirza, which are full of lies and abuse of Prophet Muhammad SAW and other Prophets?

**Mr. TLK can you stop these Qadianis including their Ka-Lips and Mirza to call me and other Muslims as “Kaffirs”? **

**Can you ask these Qadianis to delete from the books of Mirza all the abusive words he has written against all the Muslims including Prophets of Allah SWT? **

**If you can not then, you have absolutely no right to stop me or other Muslims writing the truth about Mirza Kazzab or these liars. **

Now back off and open my threads, last warning.

Re: Islam and Muslim hating policy of this site

Wow !!

You don't seem to like the forum rules, so why don't you just start your own forum to spread all the hatred and leave this one alone?

Is "your version of Islam" OK with your screen name btw?

Re: Islam and Muslim hating policy of this site

Anti-Qadyani statements are no different than anti-Islam statements. I'm muslim, and I know better than to make discriminatory statements against Qadyanis. Every time the mulllah population in Pakistan is cornered, they pull out the Qadyani card to get people revved up and on their side. I dont think this website or any other needs to support that Agenda.

Here's a suggestion. Get a diary. Write all your hatred in there. And YOU can read it. Because no one else really cares for it or needs it.

Meaning of

1). Crank it

Urban Dictionary: crank it

2). Crank that

Urban Dictionary: crank that

Meaning of the song which made this “term” popular.

WikiAnswers - Lyrics meaning to the song crank that mean

It’s pretty disgusting to me when a person like the topic starter talks about Islam and refers to people with a different POV as “Kafir”.

Mr. illegible name

Don’t start your non-sense again, *you and your sick mind with its filthy meanings, keep it to yourself. *

*Do you want me to show you the sick mind of Mirza who has called every Muslim who does not believe on his lies as Kaffirs? *

Or shall I produce the evidence when his sons, wrote books to denounce everyone who does not even know Mirza as kaffirs?

*Or shall I produce the evidence that your Zafrullah the crook refused to offer the Janza prayers of Qaid-e-Azam because he didn’t believe that QA was a Muslim? You hypocritical liars, you are open enemies of Islam and Muslims. *

You and your hypocrisy. You are the one who hate Islam and Muslims. It is you who aid and abet Islam and Muslims hating forces. It is you who have this open and declared agenda to destroy Islam and every Muslim in the world. You can not fool me; I have done full research on your cult’s sources.

Keep your “hatred for all love for none” mantra to yourself.

I agree with you Gudiya.

I'm not a follower of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, Mr. self proclaimed Mullah.

Please enlighten us about the meaning of your screen name, I'm all ears.

haha great brother... i am impressed..
Ofcourse i have also observed that whenever i start a debate with a qadiani (non-muslim) and when ever he is in trouble or can't answer my question, suddenly the whole qadiani/ahmadi (non-muslim) team comes to his rescue and start to do their bluff game.. and copy paste their fabricated material to me which is quite long usually and i never really bothered reading in detail coz i know its gonna be another lie..
Lie after lie.. hi o Mirziya.. Kitthay phassa gaya e tuu inna vichareyan nu... aap te jahannum waasil hoya aen.. inna nu v kharr sain...

Re: Islam and Muslim hating policy of this site

Those threads have been closed because there is nothing constructive coming out of them. If you guys want to carry on the same discussion, then I would suggest you guys better read the old threads. GS does not have any anti Islam or Muslim agenda but we do have an agenda against promoting hatred. If you want to promote hatred against Ahmedis and if Ahmedis want to promote hatred against other sects, then I would suggest you guys start your own forum to accomplish your goals.

Re: Islam and Muslim hating policy of this site

Yes i totally agree with that policy
I may not agree with everybody or other religion or other views but spreading hatred should never be allowed.

CTS, Just because some of the threads were locked and remained that way does not mean that Icono or any other mod did it out of any Anti-islamic agenda. If there was an agenda like that, it would be very easy for any of the mods to delete that thread and even delete this thread of yours to keep the agenda hidden from all eyes. We would've banned you and blocked you from even viewing the website so you cant come back and protest (btw, no matter what you say, banning people or their IP was never an issue for GS, but we dont want to ban you or anyother member who is followin the posting policies of GS)

The reason Mods lock the threads is because either the discussion has been concluded and now only personal attacks are going on or the thread was started in a reaction of another thread and failed to add any value other than sparking some hate flames.

I understand that when you see the picture from one side only (as a member/poster) its hard to understand some of the actions that mods take. I just want to assure you that GS does not work on agendas. We do have policies though that are clearly posted in almost every forum, and we expect member's to follow those policies.

Your threads might be locked, but they are still there. People can read your POV. If you have something else to say, you can start another thread. I am not sure how did you conclude that GS has anti-islam agenda.

and BTW brother CTS, I want to ask you and everyone else from this forum who ever got involved in an Ahmed\Non-Ahmedi debate in Religion section. How many people you or anyone was able to convert into your group from another group through your lengthy debates/arguments/discussions. I am sure we all know the answer. Is there not a single topic left in Islam other than this topic that is discussion worthy? Cant your knowledge be used for something else? If you are getting something out of it then I understand. But threads after threads after threads on the same topic and no conclusion, no result. Can we just move on to something else please.

No answers? Yeah, I though so...

I have no sympathies with crankthatSkunk but let’s not do “Buhtaan Bazi”. You obviously havent’s done enough research on his nick before coming up with your pathetic interpretations.

“Crank that skunk” is a title for the song from an American educational tv series “The Electric Company” for children.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Electric_Company_(1971_TV_series)

Be sure before you say something about someone’s character and I would like to give the same advice to some mods who heavily misunderstood a term I used and one of them accused me of being …well leave it here, shall we.

Re: Islam and Muslim hating policy of this site

"Crank, let the skunk out of the trunk". LOL

Re: Islam and Muslim hating policy of this site

crankthatskunk, in the thread of Isa (AS), you had nothing to talk about. You did not quote me even once from my pilot post. You said in that thread that there are muslims believing in jesus AS's death. So theres really no point you coming there and proving wrong otherwise. You also felt ashamed for some reason to state your own beliefs regarding Jesus (AS). When you say u dont believe in His death, it could only mean that he went up in the skies. But you did not mention it even once.

Try somewhere else crankthatskunk. There have been many users i have debated on this issue, its not just you. I suggest you go back to that thread and read my pilot post and PM me if you want proving those verses's interpretation wrong.

Why is TLK even listening to this rubbish...he has been threatening since day one...look and read this absolute piece of rubbish he produced above....I seriously think its time to take some tough decisions...and perhaps for good....and leave the legality to me...I ll deal with that.

Re: Islam and Muslim hating policy of this site

Great just great! It's a never ending cycle. When pro-qadiyani threads gets locked Ahmadi members accuse moderators and admins following the "TYRANT Government" policies, and when anti-qadyani threads get closed because of whatever reason, we are accused of following Qadyani agenda.
Here is a thought, why not we just ban all anti/pro Qadyani topics altogether for some time until participants learn to reason with logic & common sense?.

Re: Islam and Muslim hating policy of this site

^^ lol .. lage rahi bhaiyo..

administration should be doing what is rational.

ps. i personally think every admedi thread should be locked after 40 replies for five days.