Islam and Imaan....

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Quran 49:14-15
The wandering Arabs say: We believe. Say (unto them, O Muhammad): Ye believe not, but rather say “We submit,” for the faith hath not yet entered into your hearts. Yet, if ye obey Allah and His messenger, He will not withhold from you aught of (the reward of) your deeds. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.
The (true) believers are those only who believe in Allah and His messenger and afterward doubt not, but strive with their wealth and their lives for the cause of Allah. Such are the sincere.

so a group of people come to the Prophet (saw) and claim that they have attained Imaan…
Allah is telling the Prophet (saw) to tell them that they are not mo’mens but only muslims…
and the second verse describes who the mo’mens are…

so how many of us fit in the category of mo’men…
and how many of us are merely muslims???

and what is the difference between the two???
what is the significance of being only a muslim???
what does one get after he becomes qualified to be a mo’men???

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what??? :hoonh:

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: ). Which I could claim that I was one. I always have doubts.

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^^

Doubts about what?

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41:33 And who speaks better than he who calls to Allah while he himself does good , and says: I am surely of those who submit?

4:125 And who has a better religion than he who submits himself entirely to Allah? And he is the doer of good and follows the faith of Ibrahim, the upright one, and Allah took Ibrahim as a friend.

PakistaniAbroad: The Submitter or Muslim has to accept monotheism and must be a 'doer of good'.

Note none of the 'rituals' incumbent on the Momin are incumbent on the Muslim.

But when you attain 'faith' in God and His messenger, accept and believe His revelations, have no doubt whatsoever, trust your Lord, strive in the cause of God, establish Salat and purify yourself, and give Charity .. you attain high ranks with Allah and His forgiveness and favors.

28:53 And when it is recited to them they say: We believe in it surely it is the truth from our Lord; surely we were submitters before this.

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jazak Allah brother PA, i hope i can study ur post in depth and get a more clear understanding of the issue....
ur post has been a valuable contribution....

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amughal im sure youve heard this hadith it's said that it is the Mother of all Hadiths'...

"One day we were sitting in the company of the Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, when there appeared before us a man dressed in pure white clothes, his hair extraordinarily black. There were no signs of travel on him. None of us recognized him.
He sat with the Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him. Resting his knees against his and the palms of his hands on his thighs, he said, 'O Muhammad, tell me about Islam'.
The Messenger of Allah replied, 'Islam is to testify that there is no god but Allah and that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah, to establish the prayer, pay the zakat, observe the fast of Ramadan, and perform the pilgrimage to the House if you are able to do so'.
He said, 'You have spoken the truth,' and we were amazed at him asking and then verifying that he had spoken the truth. He then said, 'Inform me about Iman'.
He replied, 'It is to believe in Allah, His angels, His books, His messengers, the Last Day, and in the divine destiny of both good and evil'.
He said, 'You have spoken the truth'.
He then said, 'Tell me about Ihsan'.
He said, 'It is to worship Allah as if you see Him, for though you do not see Him, surely He sees you'.
He then said, 'Inform me about the Hour'.
He replied, 'The one who is asked knows no more than the one who is asking'.
He said, 'Tell me some of its signs'.
He said, 'That the slave-girl will give birth to her mistress, and barefoot, destitute shepherds will compete with one another in the building of magnificent buildings'.
Then he (the questioner) went on his way but I stayed with him (the Prophet) for a long while.
He said to me, 'Umar, do you know who this questioner was?'
I replied, 'Allah and His Messenger know best'.
He said, 'He was Gabriel. He came to instruct you in your religion'.''
related by 'Umar ibn al-Khattab
in Sahih Muslim

I think i read somewhere that a muslim is one who does the five pillars, and momin is who does the five pillars and also truly belives in the 6 pillars of iman. And mohsin is who knows ihsan.
Allaho alim.

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Reply to Armughal;

Dear Armughal,

Assalam ale kum,

As I am sure that you read Quran and follow it well. ALLA KA FAZAL HAI AP PER.

If you note care fully:

Where ever there is use of the word islam in Quran,

It is written as Islam FE sadooudray he

It means after reciting Kalma aei Tayaba LA illa ha il lal la mohammadun Rasoul ullah

One only gets Islam fe soudoor (Seney tak)

And be aware of the fact that;

It is written in Quran Shatan vasvaso fe sodoore he.

So dear acceptance of Islam is wonderful but it still has chances for shtan to do vasvasa in the mind of a person because shtan can reach to sadour, where their is Islam. So acceptance of Islam is not sufficient and is not the key to the NAJAT.

Where as when you read QUran where ever there is ZIKR of Eman it says Eman Fee Quloube he.

So shahtan can not reach to Quoloubs and can not cause vasvasa in the hearts of those who have Eman in their Qalbs.

So those who accept islam till the limit of reciting Kalma Tayaba only--- can end up into hell undoubtedly because they are not save from SHARE SHTAN any time of their lives.

Where as those who have reached to the level of Eman fe quolobe he ; never have any doubt on our GOD's KITABE ELAHE. His book is perfect as HE is perfect and HIS Rasoul is perfect and what ever HE Said used to be accepted by all those who had Eman Fe Qoulobe he, without CHOUN CHARA, as it is sin to even think that HE (GOD) and He(P) might have been not knowing and may be doing mistake and we have right to give him suggestion.Same is true for today. Such people who have Eman fe Qoulobe, would not do mistake as shahtan can not reach to their hearts; where they carry their Eman.

They say his book quran is undoubtedly correct , no mistake , no removal or addition is required at any ZAMAN O MAKAN. they never dear to say that, this aayat is now mansouq and that aayat is not for now etc etc such people with (eman fe qoulobe he) think GOD to be all mighty, who knows and knew from AZAL TILL ABAD. Complete perfect , no mistake in his book QURAN what he has written in Quran is from AZAL TILL ABAD corect. He does not need any ones help to remove or add or annonce that certain aayate Qurani can not be implemented now and , this way they believe that his Kalmats (QURAN ) is from AZAL TILL ABAT and must be and can be implemented all the time some where in this world.

Those who only have Islam only and is definetely fe soudoura he, were used to be ready to give suggestions to Rasoul, they very easily can say about Quran that cetain aayat is in mansouq list can not be implemented now. etc etc , they used to raise their voice on Rasoul's voice due to the reason shatan used to cause vasvasa in their heart as Shtan's MASKAN is also soudoor and Islam's Maskan is also Soudoor. etc etc

I hope I could define the difference between Islam and Eman. And to sum up momin is that muslim who has eman fe qouloob and without choun chara believes in all aayat of quran to be true and useful and must be implemented all the time from azal till abad.And same way such momins believe abot Rasoul(P) to be perfect non doer of mistakes at all from azal to abad. Definetely such people who are moims do EBADATE ELAHI in secret, they do not do dekhawa at all. Wassalam sokoon