Islam and homosexuality...

Re: Islam and homosexuality...


You are the one who said
I'm sure you know that the Quran is not the world Alamanc and encyclopedia.

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Br. Teggy already provided the references before I could so its a moot point trying to argue that Quran does not prohibit it and that it was practiced by the people of Lut and that there is no condemnation of this act of theirs in the Quran. Its explicit in terms of Quranic prohibitions so it doesn't matter whether Luts people did it or someone else does it. In Islam is a sinful act. Period. Twisting and turning the argument will not help here by throwing in interpretations of traditionalist scholars or whatsoever. This is not about you agreeing to it but that its forbidden in Islam. Islam is not based on your opinions. And yes Quran abhors all the other things you mentioned.
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Of course it's a matter of interpretation and scholars and culture. The Old Testament has more condemnation of homosexuality than the Quran does, yet there are Churches that accept homosexuals today and there are millions of gays that believe in God and consider themselves Christian.

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There is no denying that genetics alone does define a mans functions or how a man behaves. Infact if anything upbringing and environment have the most influence over how people act or think. The interpretation of Islamic law has nothing to do with genetic studies. Reformation is not the basis for making the immoral a moral.
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One small example from Christianity (Leviticus) is that sexual relations with a woman during her monthly perioed was declared immoral. Modern interpretation has deemed that irrelevant. Morals change with time.

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Islams choice is to condemn homosexuality, if one chooses to be a muslim better not make a choice to be homosexual then.
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Islam's choice or those who follow Islam's choice? (Islam, after all is made up of as many disparate and suspect components as Christianity is.) Again, see my comments about how the views on homosexaulity have changed in Christianity. Islam is 700 some years newer than Christianity, maybe that enlightenment won't take place until the 2700's. But it will.

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Semi, your post was really disappointing. It had no value add arguments, just tangential topics and you did not answer to anything that was said.

You have made no point regarding genetics and sexuality. What is it you want to achieve by proving that homosexuality and genetics are connected (which I think it more than probably true).
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If God made man gay (as he does with other animals) and God doesn't make mistakes, why would he outlaw what he has made natural?

My post are not tangential, it all boils down to this one point - the same point that can be made in almost any thread in this forum - it's all about interpretation. And the majority of Muslims are going with the same interpretation they have for over a thousand years. It doesn't mean it's right.