what do you think about wether islam is a sceintific religion or is just propaganda
from mullahs
your views broadmindedly much appreciated
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100% scientific, or i should say 1000% scinetific, there are loads of books written on Quran and science and when u read em the only thing u can say is "subhan Allah" how could muhammad (saw) know this 1400 years ago.
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forget what “mullah” say, why don’t you study it yourself, and decide in light of available scientific data? ![]()
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not to disappoint anyone, but bible is also believed as scientific by its followers. Lot of books written on that too. The idea is, to pick the right subjects with right verses to make your point, leaving the other which may weaken your case.
The "real" truth is beyond all of us.
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Quran/Hadith should not be looked upon as "Encyclopedia".
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Islam is not science. Islam is comprised of your Iman (Faith), Islam (Ritualistic aspects of Iman) and Ehsan. Can people stop making Islam and the Quran the world Almanac and encyclopedia. Universal facts in Quran are not for the purpose of establishing it as a book of science. They are signs for those who understand. Its a testament to veracity and being the message of Allah SWT.
The Quran is not a book of science, it is a book of guidance. However all the facts mentioned in the Quran are sceintifically correct. However we should be careful when trying to interpret the Quran from this perspective. It is because scientific theories can change or can be proven wrong. Does that mean that the Quran was wrong? No obviously, its just that we misinterpreted it.
The same goes for Ahadith and Sunnah. The practises of our beloved Prophet Mohammad PBUH were the best for both spiritual and physical health.
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what is a scientific religion?
The Quran is not a book of science, it is a book of guidance. However all the facts mentioned in the Quran are sceintifically correct. However we should be careful when trying to interpret the Quran from this perspective. It is because scientific theories can change or can be proven wrong. Does that mean that the Quran was wrong? No obviously, its just that we misinterpreted it.
The same goes for Ahadith and Sunnah. The practises of our beloved Prophet Mohammad PBUH were the best for both spiritual and physical health.
tho i agree with everything u said but just as a side note that all the famous books that are written on the topic of Quran and science r not based on scientific theories, they are all based on facts, theories are not purposely included in em.
and for other members who think that all of the religions think that they are scientificly correct leme just add to ur knowledge that the research on Quran is not by muslim "scientists" as there are not alot in there, all the famous research is done by christian scholars mostly in canada and US obviously on the request of islamic organizations such as IRF
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I think the logic behing is that if a Muslim scientist say something that will carry much less weight then a person following different faith confirms the facts.
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don't' look for religion in science, look for science in your religion.
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Islam iznt scientific religion infact it has nothing to do with science coz watever happenz in this universe iznt from science itz wat Allah doez coz he iz the creator
The following is a quote from moon-sighting discussion.
Religion and science are oxymorons. Here is why.
- Religions are meant to keep alive the old traditions (oftentimes for 1000s of years).
- Science is meant to challenge the traditions all the time. Even a day old tradition can get thrown out, if someone can prove a better way of doing things.
Without going to complicated subatomic stuff, let's see an ordinary example from Muslims's life.
Moon sighting is a religious tradition, and thus incompatible with using scientifically produced calendars.
That's why we have this clash between moon-sighters and calendarars.
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HAHA What a joke! No religion is Scientific. They're all ancient theories of explaining things. They couldn't explain things with proper logic and reasoning so they made all these stories and what not. That's all it is. Ancient theories and stories. You can go on and on about how it makes sense and its irght its rigth its right but that is just you puttin *** together trying to prove something BECAUSE YOU WANT IT TO BE TRUE.
Waste of time. Blahhh
Quran/Hadith should not be looked upon as "Encyclopedia".
Completely agree ...
and no mullah (or real Alim) ever claimed that islam is a sceintific religiont , only half baked mullahs who want to be famous in west claim these kind of things ..and make a mockery of Islam ..
Quran is not a text book on any subject, it taught us the way of life, not how to multiply 35 by 47 ...
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Peace All
I'm not sure myself. I would like to understand why there is a shying away of science compared with religion. Perhaps it is a symptom of secularism?
Knowledge is the purpose behind science and so does Islam promote the seeking of knowledge. Just as scriptural verses are misunderstood so are many phenomena and people pave patterns to connect two things that happen in order to explain to themselves the nature of those things. Verily, religion is the science of the soul and realisation of God. However, 'science' as a taught subject which should actually be called 'natural science' is void of the concept of 'soul' because it cannot be measured by objective means. However, we measure things subjectively all the time because objective measurement does not cover the scope of belief and experience perception it is covered by the realms of religion, so though Islam may not necessarily be called 'science' it is however the tool that allowed 'modern natural science' flourish, because it is responsible for the precepts that govern the modes of obtaining knowledge and recording them to be utilised by people.
I would argue that Islam is scientific if scientific is the means to measure, record and connect phenomena, which is what we do albeit in a fundamentally different domain of thought and within a different fabric of reality.
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http://ravi.lums.edu.pk/sabieh/science-islam.pdf
“Muslim response to twentieth century science”, (English), notes of speech delivered at [http://www.islamic-college.ac.uk/"]Islamic](http://URL)* College for Advanced Studies******,* London,** 19 May 2004
I'm not sure what you mean by scientific religion, but I do agree that Islam (i.e. Quran and Hadith) have explained many things that scientists have recently discovered. However, scientific theories are formed based on observations and conclusions by scientists, who can be mistaken. Islam is given to us by Allah, whose knowledge is complete and nothing is hidden from Him. Therefore, I'd say that Islam may confirm certain or disprove certain theories for me, but not the other way around.
I do not know why people try to explain religion on the basis of science.
Either they do not know the meaning of religion or the science.
First of all, there is absolutely no need to try explaining a religin good or bad based on if the particaular religion is scientific or not.
Secondly, science and religion on many ocasssion plain and simple opposed to their meaning.
OK. After this long Tamheed or prolouge let me try to explain what it means.
There are so many items in religion which will never be explained by the science.
Example of number 1: Existence of Jin. I bet none of the human being ever came across this forum and around even them ever can explain what Jin is by scientific methods.
And yet in scripture you and I may have in our posession talks about Jins and their existence.
2- Moses parted the river. Try explaining by science.
3- A Prophet lived in the belly of a fish. Try explaining by science.
4- A human being as the prophet had a journey towards sky on Burraq with an Angel. And he came back when the bed was still 'warm' from his body heat.
Try explaining by science. I can go on and so can you.
So a religion is never scientific and science cannot expain religious matters.
Ok forget about the religion. Just try explaining the phenomenon of 'memory'.
How can one remember certain events in his and her life. What is in his and her brain cell that distinguish her memory brain cell from next person?
Can you explain this by science?
Science only tells us certain chemicals or electrical bursts are released to incite certain thoughts. Can anyone transfer these memories to each other? Nope.
Even science cannot explain a scientific truth.
My humble point is try not comparing religion to science ever. **
**Two different elements.
Its like comparing or mixing tree properties to a horse.
Take care.