ISIS/Daesh

I am getting sick of people using prophecies like Dajjal, return of Isa (A.S), the gay-butchers of Khorsan and now the rise of ISIS. The story goes like this …as far i understand.

  1. There will be bloodshed everywhere (err.. only in Muslim majority region)

  2. Then the rise of groups with black flags (taliban, butchers, gay-monkeys & ISIS/Daesh) (err… only in Muslim majority region)

  3. The next phase will be defeat of tyrants for ex. Bashar-al-Asad of Syria (Shia), the royal family of Saudia (Wahhabi-Sunni), fall of Iraqi rulers (majority Shia), the Kurdish (Sunnis), fall of Iran/Afghan/Pakistan - greater Khorsan (Sunni/Shia mixup).

  4. Then the forces of gay-butchers (taliban/Daesh) emerge from Khorsan, Yemen, Northern Iraq towards Dabiq, Syria for the final battle with the armies of Rome.

  5. The armies of Rome will be lead by Obama if happens in current year … next year it will be someone else, next US president off course

  6. After the defeat of armies of Rome, the shariah-led government will be dawn upon all over the earth.

  7. then the-end.

Seriously? what i understand only Muslims Fathers, Mothers, Wife, Husband, Children, Brothers, Sisters and cousins will suffer. Because somehow all the so-called Haadiths are silent on the end of people of Rome, just for recall the armies of Rome will be defeated and butchered in point no 6.

Slavery will be legal (yummy), children can’t play peek-a-boo because it is haaram. Women will be clad head to toe (crap) no more heels. ..think about it ladies & gentleman.

All this bloodshed for what? for religion? for my point-of-view? because we said-so?

Now anyone with the mind intact at right place want to shed some two cents?

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Oh come on Man, fault lines between the civilizations, will be the battle lines of future… It will Pave the way for destruction and downfall. Why is it , that there is such a bitter conflict between muslims and jews? cz “ISLAM-Yahood” dushmanni is a reality and it dates back to 6th century. Even a kid knows, the battle over Jeruashlem is raging and i guess, world would become a stage for final battle between muslims and jews in near future. This bloodshed is not for religion but for Justice and Peace…

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No more heels :teary1:

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oh chaado ji…
Not every thing worth discussing. When donkey wants speaks I don’t buy a coffee and sit with him.
Sames goes for ISIS “narrative”

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Is there any hadees on what weapons muslims will use against “rome”. They cannot make anything of their own and romans give them low tech stuff so they kill each other.

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Wait is someone spamming GS with stupid spam mail now?

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aah the good one, the Jews are waiting for their promising messiah. Mashallah .. and the Christians are looking for some kind a armageddon … and the poor me wants a vacation in bora bora :frowning:

on the serious note, just for the sake of argument Jews are defeated and Jerusalem is captured then what? the government of ISIS?

i will rather kill myself then become subject to such butchers.

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the narrative of ISIS and all other end-of-times lovers is flawed to such extent that one have to get drunk to understand it. if human race has such an end that what was the freaking purpose of this universe? we are like 000000000000000000.001 as per the mass value. worthless !

the future could be like this… the western world probably shift to some distant planet or star and left this whole earth for the monkeys to established their promised shariah or whatever led government. The middle east would become the dangerous no-go area of our solar system and would be restricted to the level of Prime Directive.

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What do you have against good posture?

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Maybe the creators of ISIS read about the prophecies on the Black Flags, created an evil army and stamped them with black flags to mislead people.

I have trouble believing this is the army of black flags that was promised centuries ago, that would be a salvation for people.

They burnt the Jordanian pilot, I saw on TV today. BURNT HIM ALIVE.

Yeah, if this is the black flag army that Rasulullah (SAW) saw in his visions, I am not interested. Kill me now.

Oh no, just burn me alive.

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ISIS is nt the army of black flages, that was promised. According to “Saahi” Hadees, Black flags will appear from Khurasan. Modern day Khurasan, consists of whole of afganistan, tribal belt of Pakistan and some parts of iran and uzbakistan. One must wonder why afganistan has been a centre stage of the world for more than 3 decades. What is there in barren lands and mountains of afganistan that attracted every super power. Every Super power from Alexander to United states turned to afganistan, when it was their turn to fall from grace. And it is said, that Pastuns/pathans are one of the lost tribes of “Bani-Israel” and they have jewish origin. They migrated from holly land ,centuries ago and embraced ISLAM.. Now, I would nt say anything. Aqaal rakhany valo kay liye nishaanian han, har jagha.

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There have been DNA studies refuting the idea these are the lost tribes of Israel but Allah knows best.

Given the opiate-addicted US, I’m not surprised we went into Afghanistan. Although probably a smaller point, we got control over the narcotics trade in our favor. I’m sure many people in Western countries have benefited.

I have no idea why else anyone would want control of Afghanistan.

TTP also has black flags. So are they the promised army? They’re just as heinous as ISIS in their torture. News coming out now of torture chambers underground tunneled under Miramshah and such areas where people kidnapped from Karachi/Lahore for ransom are taken and tortured. That’s the Black Flag army?

Just BS, the people behind these movements have read the hadith’s and Quran and they know exactly what to manipulate to fool people. Hoist a black flag and get followers.

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This is the problem with religion. It turns us into haters. Wanting to destroy someone just because they are from a different religion.

While reasonable people will agree religion was man made to bring about harmony, it now has unintended consequences.

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In a lecture Hamza Yusuf said that among the signs of Qiyamah is that the Prophet SAWS warned about groups like Isis. He SAWS warned that there would be people who could quote ahadith and Quran but will lead folks to hell and among their signs would be that they would adopt names related to places (Baghdadi) rather than tribes and that they would have long hair.

Hamza Yusuf also said that the Prophet SAWS warned that the black flags begin with fitnah…and in the midst of it is delusion/misguidance/error…and it ends with atheism.

So, Op and others maybe need to research this hadith/saying some more.

As far as getting drunk at Bora Bora…if that’s where one’s priorities lie…then head to Bora Bora while you still have time. Ain’t nobody stoppin’ you.

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That’s interesting.

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Here is Hamza Yusuf’s lecture on ISIS and Black Flags.

A lot of info I didn’t know about. Very educational. Shows how little we know.

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Ok agreed , i have an interest in history. I would love to see that “DNA research report” you mentioned, just for my knowledge. Narcotics ? Afgan Militants (Taliban) banned poppy cultivation, during their regime, which led to 99% poppy reduction. New York times repport.. Taliban’s Ban On Poppy A Success, U.S. Aides Say - NYTimes.com
While opium and poppy cultivation in afganistan under the military control of united States reached an all time high. (http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2013/11/us-drug-afgahnistan-opium.html)
As far as US Presence in afganistan , is concerned, Afgan Militants never attacked United States. It is a universal truth. They offered, to expel/deport Bin ladin, but uncle bush was in no mood. New offer on Bin Laden | World news | The Guardian Now, White house says , Taliban are not terrorists. Plus,
they really have no ties with TTP and they have denied such connections many times, here link Afghan Taliban commander expresses disassociation with TTP - GEO.tv . Let’s get the facts straigth, TTP has white flag, not black. Besides, I do nt like afgan taliban, i criticized them for their treatment of women, but there are some facts., this media has blurred the distinction line between facts and lies. If Salahudeen, the guy who recaptured Jeureshlem, had been here, this media would have declaired him a terrorist. No ? I think you should watch, “The Arrivals” it will help you understand.

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I think that it was afridis, not all of pashtuns who were descended from the jewish tribes. I guess the soodi nature of pathans gave much wind to the rumor.
@redvelvet: So ISIS would lead to athiesm? Southie must be happy ! :smiley:

It would make sense since religion (islam here) has been misused which would shun the younger generation. But I still think that it would take a while to get people to stop having any sort of sympathy for people hiding in religious garb and the way things are going, there would be a huge civil war in the islamic world before ISIS types are fully eradicated.

Right now, it is whack a mole strategy. I wonder how Saudis would react when the hydras (ISIS, saudia) turn on each other. There is only so much space in the middle east for caliphates and monarchies

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^My interpretation of that is that the heinous actions of groups like ISIS will not only lead people to erroneously associate them with Islam…but to condemning the religion…and that even Muslims will become disillusioned and gradually leave their faith or become unsure of it to the point that it’s like having no religion. And you see this happening already. There are Muslims who are beginning to feel this way. Even GS has seen members who were either former Muslims that became misled by the atrocities committed by “Muslim” leaders around the world…or members who stereotype Muslims/Pakistanis etc.

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Then there are other articles that talk about increase in opium trade with the Taliban, their beheadings in the national stadium, instead of hosting games, their TANKING of the Afghani economy, unable to generate jobs, whippings of women in public despite the fact they’re in shuttle burqas, women being unable to even open SALONS, and per Musharraf, Mullah Omer DID NOT WANT to hand over OBL, despite all negotiations mediated by Pakistan. That’s why they went in.