Re: ISI chief knew whereabouts of Osama bin Laden's hideout: NYT
the sad part is that no Pakistani believes in its government, army or agencies...ask your heart, do you trust ISI statements? they have zero credibility among its own citizens..we all know the dirty games that ISI and our army played to flourish and support taliban for decades and which has now come back to haunt us...how can you trust these people? they have been lying for so long....they also played the double game throughout musharaff era and supported taliban....and then got into this good taliban and bad taliban game after lal mosque fiasco.
Alas i have no reason to believe ISI and therefore i do suspect that this report may have some merit as logic suggests and that idiot pasha may very well be supporting laden.
one more point...not that agencies of other countries reveal all of their plans in front of their respective masses truthfully but at least in those countries, civilian govts are in control and as such set up security and national policies and therefore their intelligent agencies and army leadership dont have liberty to do whatever they want and for sure dont have liberty to set up long term strategic and foreign policies....whereas in our Pakistan, army and ISI have been ruling the country solely for last 40 years and are doing whatever they want.
Most probably double cross "sub se pehalay dollars" also knew where he was hiding to black mail Sam to get more dollars :)
Re: ISI chief knew whereabouts of Osama bin Laden's hideout: NYT
the sad part is that no Pakistani believes in its government, army or agencies...ask your heart, do you trust ISI statements? they have zero credibility among its own citizens..we all know the dirty games that ISI and our army played to flourish and support taliban for decades and which has now come back to haunt us...how can you trust these people? they have been lying for so long....they also played the double game throughout musharaff era and supported taliban....and then got into this good taliban and bad taliban game after lal mosque fiasco.
Alas i have no reason to believe ISI and therefore i do suspect that this report may have some merit as logic suggests and that idiot pasha may very well be supporting laden.
one more point...not that agencies of other countries reveal all of their plans in front of their respective masses truthfully but at least in those countries, civilian govts are in control and as such set up security and national policies and therefore their intelligent agencies and army leadership dont have liberty to do whatever they want and for sure dont have liberty to set up long term strategic and foreign policies....whereas in our Pakistan, army and ISI have been ruling the country solely for last 40 years and are doing whatever they want.
This is case of mistrust between political parties and military. Military thinks that the day civilians are in full incharge of country's decisions/secrets they will sell everything to US or India etc. .... i.e. provide all secrets to US on demand - nuclear facilities. Its not as simple as you are making it here.
Re: ISI chief knew whereabouts of Osama bin Laden's hideout: NYT
Military thinks that the day civilians are in full incharge of country's decisions/secrets they will sell everything to US or India etc. .... i.e. provide all secrets to US on demand - nuclear facilities.
Why is it so? This is the most faulty thinking if it is true. If military doesn't trust its own people then people will never trust its own military. This is knows as third law of motion. Perhaps Pakistan is unique that even in democracy, military has the upper hand and that is why civilian governments don't take any responsibility for failure of key decisions.
What you are saying that when Paki joins military, he automatically becomes Bahamanian of low cast Pakis, getting its oxygen and finance from somewhere else eh!
Re: ISI chief knew whereabouts of Osama bin Laden's hideout: NYT
I for one believe the government more than some gori reporter who makes up imaginary sources no one can corroborate.
I wouldn't trust the Pakistani government any more than some random reporter. If someone like Glenn Greenwald reported this, then I'd be more inclined to believe it.
Re: ISI chief knew whereabouts of Osama bin Laden's hideout: NYT
This is case of mistrust between political parties and military. Military thinks that the day civilians are in full incharge of country's decisions/secrets they will sell everything to US or India etc. .... i.e. provide all secrets to US on demand - nuclear facilities. Its not as simple as you are making it here.
The irony being that the military has been whoring Pakistan to the US since the 60's, the most disastrous outcome of which, imo, was Zia being allowed to cement Pakistan's social attitudes towards religion. On the other hand, Bhutto was the one who laid the groundwork so you can't blame Zia entirely.