Isa (AS), Quran and his second coming:

[Sa1eem]

Re: Isa (AS), Quran and his second coming:

@kchughtai

If Allah had planned to take Jesus(as) away to heavens then what was the purpose of putting another person of his resemblance on the cross and let him die.

I will let you know after asking from Allah. Well, even though only Allah knows the purposes best:

I believe the purpose could be that since believe on Isa (AS) ascension is Allah’s test for believers (Muslims and people near Qiyamah), conjecture amongst Christians that Isa (AS) got crucified and killed has to be there. (Quran also mentions that in 5:157)

Just imagine if Allah has taken Isa (AS) to haven (alive with body) without leaving a conjecture … that is, someone resembling got crucified and killed whom people believed to be Isa (AS) … then there would have been lot of questions at the time Isa (AS) was taken away by Allah.

This is simply beyond understanding. If jews had known or ascension of Jesus(as) had taken place before their eyes, they would have prostrated right therem or do you think they could have followed him upto the heavens

Why it is beyond your understanding? Is it also beyond your understanding that instead of sending ‘prophets and books’ why Allah do not send angels to each and every human with messages and could also take humans to heaven and hell for ‘sight visit’, and then all would believe on Allah without doubt, would have done everything to please Allah, and would have been obedient servant of Allah.

There was no witness of the ascension of Jesus(as) and he was not there to tell about it then how did that ascension theory came about.

This theory came about because Allah says so in Quran … that Allah raised Jesus on to himself (4:158).

and this theory that had no basis unfortunately trickled into islamic beliefs as well.

Well, to me, it is unfortunate that you are not accepting words of Quran rather believing on your own conjecture.

In your post, you claimed in bold that 'no one saw jesus after the crucifixion and then you admitted that his disciples saw him and you said it was a hallucination. he(as) actually appeared before them and showed them his wounds and ate with them.

I did not write that they saw Isa (AS) (I was not there when this happened … or not happened). I only wrote that Isa (AS) disciples claim that they saw Isa (AS) after crucifixion. And rest is according to what they claim, that could be hallucination, dream, real, or whatever.

I only speculated that if they really saw then it could be a visit of Isa (AS) before accession. Anyhow, even if their claim is true, for their story of Isa (AS) showing his wounds and so on, that has to be surely concocted story (as Bible is full of concocted stories). Such concocted stories may have came into existence because Christians believe (or want to believe) that Isa (AS) was crucified and killed on cross.

You might say why I am saying that such story must be concocted. My answer is that … I am saying because I am Muslim who believes Quran is words of Allah and in Quran (4:157) it is written that Isa (AS) was not crucified nor killed.

Quran is not in favor of the mythology of ascension of Jesus. it is rooted in beliefs of christianity and literal interpretation accorded to various hadiths.

Who said that Quran is not in favour of ascension of Isa (AS) when it is clearly saying that Isa (AS) was taken away by Allah alive in person … as after Isa (AS) was taken away by Allah (in person), no person or body of Isa (AS) was left on this material world for anyone to see.

On the other hand, Allah also wrote in Quran (5:159) that Isa (AS) has not died, rather he would die only after people of book would believe on him … but till now they have not. So, if I believe that Allah is telling true in Quran (what I and every Muslim believe) that Isa (AS) would die only after people of the book would believe on him then I have no choice other than to believe that Isa (AS) is alive.