Is US planning to attack Iran with Pakistan's help?

Is US planning to attack Iran? And Pakistan and Israel are helping US in this plan.

U.S. Said to be Conducting Secret Reconnaissance Missions Inside Iran
Date Posted: Monday, January 17, 2005

http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/?050124fa_fact

An investigative reports states that the U.S. has been conducting secret reconnaissance missions inside Iran at least since mid-2004, gathering information on nuclear facilities.
WASHINGTON, Jan 17 (MASNET & News Agencies) - Teams of U.S. commandos have been operating inside Iran since last summer, selecting suspected weapons sites for possible air strikes, The New Yorker reported.
The government of President George W. Bush has authorized secret reconnaissance missions inside Iran at least since mid-2004, the magazine reports in its Monday edition, reports Agence France-Presse (AFP).

Their goal is to identify target information for up to 26 suspected nuclear, chemical and missile sites, according to the magazine.

The magazine’s award-winning reporter Seymour Hersh, who last year exposed the extent of prisoner abuse at Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq, wrote that he was repeatedly told by U.S. intelligence and military sources that “the next strategic target was Iran.”

President George W. Bush has signed a series of orders authorizing commando groups to conduct covert operations against suspected terrorist targets in as many as ten nations in the Middle East and South Asia, the New Yorker said.

Defining these as military rather than intelligence operations, Hersh reported, will enable the Bush administration to evade legal restrictions imposed on the CIA’s covert activities overseas, reports Reuters news agency.

“The goal is to identify and isolate three dozen, and perhaps more, such targets that could be destroyed by precision strikes and short-term commando raids,” Hersh wrote.

“This is a war against terrorism, and Iraq, is just one campaign,” a former high-level government intelligence official told the magazine.

“The Bush administration is looking at this as a huge war zone. Next, we’re going to have the Iranian campaign. We’ve declared war and the bad guys, wherever they are, are the enemy. This is the last hurrah - we’ve got our years, and we want to come out of this saying we won the war on terrorism,” the official said.

A top government consultant with close ties with the Pentagon told the magazine that the Pentagon civilians - especially Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, his deputy Paul Wolfowitz and their fellow neo-conservatives - “want to go into Iran and destroy as much of the military infrastructure and possible.”

Hersh said Bush, Vice President Dick Cheney and Rumsfeld view Bush’s re-election as “a mandate to continue the war on terrorism,” despite problems with the U.S.-led war in Iraq, reports CNN.

“The planning for Iran is going ahead even though Iraq is a mess,” Hersh said to CNN. “I think they really think there’s a chance to do something in Iran, perhaps by summer, to get the intelligence on the sites.”

He added, “The guys on the inside really want to do this.”

Hersh identified those inside people as the “neoconservative” civilian leadership in the Pentagon, including Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz and Undersecretary of Defense Doug Feith - “the sort of war hawks that we talk about in connection with the war in Iraq.”

Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz believe that Iran’s clerical regime could not withstand a military blow and would collapse, the magazine reports.

For its part, Iran has refused to dismantle its nuclear program, which it insists is legal and is intended solely for civilian purposes, reports CNN.

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International allies are helping the Pentagon with its Iran plans, according to the magazine. Israeli consultants are helping develop potential weapons targets inside Iran. Pakistan is also involved.

Pakistani scientists are providing information to an American task force that is penetrating eastern Iran searching for underground nuclear installations, the magazine said.

In exchange for this cooperation, an official told Hersh, Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf has received assurances that his government will not have to turn over Abdul Qadeer Khan, the father of Pakistan’s atomic bomb, to face questioning about his role in selling nuclear secrets to Iran, Libya and North Korea, reports Reuters.

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The New Yorker article went on to describe how the Bush White House has solidified control over U.S. intelligence operations and how the Pentagon has finagled new powers to conduct covert operations without oversight from the U.S. Congress or involvement by the CIA.

The White House said Iran is a concern and a threat that needs to be taken seriously. But it disputed Hersh’s report, reports Reuters.

White House Communications Director Dan Bartlett on Sunday called the Hersh article “riddled with inaccuracies and I don’t believe that some of the conclusions he’s drawing are based on fact.”

He said the administration was using diplomacy to address the Iran issue.

“We’re working with our European allies to help convince the Iranian government to not pursue weapons of mass destruction, particularly nuclear weapons. We’ll continue to work through the IAEA protocol to do just that,” Bartlett said.

He was referring to the International Atomic Energy Agency, the U.N.'s nuclear watchdog.

“We obviously have a concern about Iran. The whole world has a concern about Iran,” Dan Bartlett, a top aide to Bush, told CNN’s “Late Edition.”

“It’s critical that the entire world focus on this issue. It is a threat that we have to take seriously, and we’ll continue to work through the diplomatic initiatives that he set forth,” said Bartlett.

“No president, at any juncture in history, has ever taken military options off the table,” Bartlett added. “But what President Bush has shown is that he believes we can emphasize the diplomatic initiatives that are underway right now.”

But Hersh said administration hawks were convinced European negotiations will fail, and when they do, the United States will act - possibly by mid-year.

“The next step is Iran. It’s definitely there. They’re definitely planning,” Hersh told CNN.

In the meantime, the Pentagon is trying to get reliable information on Iranian weapon sites, to avoid the embarrassment of the alleged Iraqi weapons of mass destruction that were never found.

Last week, the effort to find weapons of mass destruction in Iraq - the Bush administration’s stated primary rationale for the war - was halted after having come up empty, reports CNN.

“We don’t want another WMD flap. We want to be sure we have the right information,” he said.

http://www.masnet.org/news.asp?id=2081

Re: Is US planning to attack Iran with Pakistan's help?

The pentagon is discrediting the story as "it has fundamental flaws". Stay tuned.
Interesting news though.

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http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/?040308fa_fact

Seymour Hersh came up with the story about A Q Khan too.

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lol…is this the latest propaganda by indians? :konfused: in that case they cudve created some other story which would have been more believable than this :stuck_out_tongue: coz the Islamic Republic of Pakistan will never attack our brother country Islamic Republic of Iran :slight_smile:

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indians run the new yorker? :-O

and hey, islamic republic of pakistan sure sold its brothers the taliban overnight. daalar ka maamla hai bhaaai..

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:rotfl: :rotfl:

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Is this revenge from Pakistan because Iran handed over evidence of Pakistan developing nuclear technology. Also Iran was highly critical of Pakistans support to Taliban.

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/GA19Df05.html

Pakistan has provided extensive facilities to special United Kingdom and US units to train them in commando operations in Pakistan’s port city of Karachi, which in many ways resembles the Iranian towns of Tehran, Shiraz, Isphan and other urban centers. Special forces from the US and Britain have staged unannounced exercises in Karachi. With its maze of high rises, communication networks and the division of the city (Sher-i-Bala and Sher-i-Payien), Tehran and Karachi are very similar.

During the exercises, the troops got to know different localities, residential areas, roads and exit points of the city, including railway and bus stations and the airport. For the exercises, the troops were provided with detailed maps of Karachi, including important buildings. The exercises, which started several weeks ago, ended on January 17

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Pakistan’s support to the US against Iran is logical as Iran did not hesitate to hand over all evidence of Pakistan helping Iran in developing nuclear technology to the international agency
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Excellent. The bloody Irani's deserve it. Take them out heck, the Paki military should help out with actual ground troops ie we should fight as well.

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serves them right, they wanted the nuclear tech from us, we refused, they rated us out and now they gonna get bum rushed :smiley:

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Much as I am annoyed at Iranians for pishti maaring Pakistan during the nuclear flap, I think it is in Pakistan's best interests to have more countries (especially Islamic countries) acquiring nuclear weapons. That gets the heat off Pak. Sooner or later, nuclear technology will be like missile technology - every country who wants it will have it.

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^ not when you are supplying it. Heat will be there..peep this

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/01/18/politics/18nukes.html?

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Iran may have a bomb design that Abdul Qadeer Khan of Pakistan got from China.

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Exactly. The heat is on, because very few countries has it. When more and more countries have it (whichever way they get it), this whole Non-proliferation issue will become moot. Its a great equivalizer, actually, when you think about it. But then again, ofcourse, there is risk that funny organizations will get their hands on it.

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Good show Mushy. :biggthumb

Iran is going to get its nukes sooner or later. I hope the neocon cabal attacks them with Pakistan’s help. Pakistan may even get a few F-16s for the trouble.

But at the end of the day, Pakistan will forever have a nuclear armed rival on either side with grievances against it.

Another act of tactical brilliance and strategic idiocy. :hehe:

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Yeh to khudkhushi ka plan hai.
More the nuclear tech prolifrates more is the risk of it being used.
i say if we are not destroying them then lets not spread them.

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i think tum sub logo nay peee hoye hay, isi liye bongian mar rahay ho sub kay saub LOL !

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It is in Pakistan benefit to help the US in getting rid of Iran's WMD/nuclear capabilities.

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Well Jack straw has already stated that they’ve ruled out any military action, so it seems US is really gonna have to go it alone this time. Even though important and significant countries such Latvia and the Philipines may help out, i really dont think the attack is gonna be any time soon.

On a side note; not that its really relevant, just to calrify the point that it seems Iran had as much to do with the leak on the nuclear blueprint, as did China. According to this article in Dawn, a quote from Washington Post, it seems Libya was the source of the leak the moment she opened her weapon lab for international inspections. The US immediately put 2 and 2 together and figured the rest, whilst Pak as usual put 1 and 1 together and came up with 11. IMO Pak’s guilty conscience made them jump the gun and in turn shot themselves in the foot. The Abdul Qadeer saga was not even neccesary.
http://www.dawn.com/2004/02/16/top10.htm

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Actually no. The facts in that article are wrong. The IAEA wanted to know where Iran got the capabilities to process enriched uranimum which was extremely similar to the Pakistani design. There are threads about it here, but Iran most definitely fingered us as did Libya.