Is this the Begining of New Cold War

[hanibal]

US’s Plan to install Misslie Shield in Eastern Europe and Russia’s opposition!

Bush Administration hold the stance that, they have taken such measures to prevent any missile assault from Iran or N. Korea (funny isn’t it)

President Vladimir Putin yesterday declared that a new arms race and cold war with the west had begun and announced that Russia would retaliate against US missile defence plans in Europe by pointing its missiles at European cities.
In a hawkish speech that sets the stage for a frosty G8 summit this week, Mr Putin launched an extraordinary broadside at the west over missile defence, Kosovo and democratic standards.

Mr Putin will meet George Bush, Tony Blair and other world leaders on Wednesday in the German resort of Heiligendamm for their annual meeting. In an interview released last night he made his most strident attack yet on western power.He also indicated that he would not shy away from fights with the German chancellor Angela Merkel on human rights and harshly accused Britain of “politicising” the murder of the Russian dissident Alexander Litvinenko.
On missile defence, Mr Putin said that if the Bush administration installed elements of a missile shield in eastern Europe, Russia would retaliate by training nuclear missiles on European targets. Russia has not specifically aimed its missiles at Europe since the end of the cold war but, asked if it might do so again if the US missile shield went ahead, Mr Putin said: “Of course we are returning to those times. It is clear that if a part of the US nuclear capability turns up in Europe, and, in the opinion of our military specialists will threaten us, then we are forced to take corresponding steps in response.”

“What will those steps be? Naturally, we will have to have new targets in Europe.”

He said: “We want to be heard, we want our position to be understood. But if that does not happen, we lift from ourselves any responsibility for the steps we take in response, because we are not the ones who are initating the arms race in Europe.”

Mr Putin’s comments, in an interview with selected media from G8 countries at his dacha outside Moscow, appear calculated to inflict maximum panic among western leaders ahead of the G8 summit.

The comments are the most savage assault on the west since the cold war and follow Mr Putin’s blistering attack on the Bush administration in February in Munich, unproductive talks with the US secretary of state Condoleezza Rice, Russia’s alleged cyber-attack on neighbouring Estonia and last week’s announcement that Russia had successfully test-fired a new and deadly intercontinental missile equipped with multiple warheads.

In a further jibe at the US, Mr Putin said no one country should be allowed to dictate its views to others. “Certain participants in the international arena assume that their opinion is the ultimate truth. That, naturally, does not help create an atmosphere of trust.”

Mr Putin also underlined the gulf between Russia and the west over the future of Kosovo and its possible split from Serbia."We hear only one answer. That we need to hurry. But hurry where? What is happening that requires us to be in such a rush?"In comments likely to lead to icy exchanges when Mr Putin meets Mr Blair at the G8, the Russian leader accused Britain of “politicising” the murder of the former Russian security service agent Alexander Litvinenko, who died in a London hospital after being poisoned with polonium 210. Last night Mr Putin said the affair was being whipped up by Russian emigres given refuge in London after fleeing prosecution in Russia.

The Bush administration insists that planned missile interceptors and radars in Poland and the Czech Republic are no threat to Moscow. The Pentagon claims the system is designed to shoot down missiles from Iran and North Korea. Mr Putin has repeatedly said he does not believe the US. Neither Iran nor North Korea has missiles capable of striking the US, he said, accusing the US administration of upsetting the strategic balance of forces in Europe.

“We are being told the anti-missile defence system is targeted against something that does not exist. Doesn’t it seem funny to you?” Mr Putin said. “The strategic balance in the world is being upset and in order to restore this balance without creating an anti-missile defence on our territory, we will be creating a system of countering that anti-missile system.”

http://www.kuwaitsamachar.com/topnews.asp?mId=633

With hundred of thousands US troops deployed and facing resistance in Iraq and Afghanistan, can USA afford a cold war?

[mercenary2k]

Re: Is this the Begining of New Cold War

^^ US Missiles are getting very close to Russia.

Ukraine is thinking of joining NATO which means that US Troops could be in the Ukraine.

So ya, Russia is worried which is not surprising.

[hanibal]

Re: Is this the Begining of New Cold War

^^ this means this time the battle ground will be Iraq and Afghanistan? All Russia has to do is fund and train, and America have to suffer or withdraw!!!

[mercenary2k]

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well it wont.

mostly because russia is fighting its own war with muslims in chechenya.

[hanibal]

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well it wont.

mostly because russia is fighting its own war with muslims in chechenya.

As per me, nor Russia neither USA give a dam about Muslims, no matter it is Afghanistan, Iraq or Chechenya.

what they do care is how they can defeat each other, In days of Afghan-Jihad (1979-87) USA was fully supporting Muslims in their cause to fight against USSR, at same time they were backing Isreal against Muslims in Palestine and Lebanon...

of which none of the MUJAHID at that time took notice and they continue to enjoy USA funds...

Same episode can be repeated in Iraq and Afghanistan, Allied Forces are suffering from heavy loses, these losses can be doubled if Russia give 10% of the support USA provided in Afghanistan...

Iam sure, if Russia offers, none of these MUJAHID will refuse to take weapons and support and that time they will close their eyes for what Russia is doing in Chechaniya.

[simplyme]

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^^

If Russia is goign to provide any sort of support to these jehadis they are setting themselves up to be sc***ed. US is going to impose economic sanctions and the russians very well know that these jehadis are going to turn against them.

The russians do not have anything to gain by arming these idiots. they have everything to loose and I dont think that they are that foolish to shoot themselves in the foot.

[hanibal]

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^^

If Russia is goign to provide any sort of support to these jehadis they are setting themselves up to be sc***ed. US is going to impose economic sanctions and the russians very well know that these jehadis are going to turn against them.

The russians do not have anything to gain by arming these idiots. they have everything to loose and I dont think that they are that foolish to shoot themselves in the foot.

Lets look at the fact,

Fact 1:
US is opening another front against Russia, US Armies will as moving closer to Russia.

Fact 2:
Despite the military power Russia posses now, they are not in shape to take head to head conflict with US-NATO forces.

Fact 3:
Russian Economy was badly beaten once but now they are improving and as per my knowledge less credit to US & Allies and more to the polices of Puttin, who put the country back on the track.

Based on above, track Russian economy is not entirely based on west, infact the countries from where Russians are benefiting are the very same where US is trying to create influence.

Russia can counter that by hitting weakness of US, Like is said, they don't have to support MUJAHIDEEN as US supported them in Afghnistan, all Russians have to do is provide them with 10% of what Americans provided them then.

Its will not be the first time, it happend in Vietnam, it can be done in Afghanistan and Iraq...

[shriek11]

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^ I think simplyme the situation is not that simple as oil prices are high and Europe is very dependent on russian gas. The whole Europe shuddered when Russia had that conflict with Estonia and they threatened to shut down the pipeline.

Though I don't know how the russians will provide support as Pakistan is main conduit for pashtun resistance and unlike the eighties, Pakistan is not going to arm them being a "US ally". Iraq, though, is a different matter.

[hanibal]

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I agree, Pakistan will not arm them, infact Russians are not very found of Pakistanies as well, they can do it directly, and this will be good for Pakistan in a sense thay they should stop poking their nose in other business and clean their own ****.

[mercenary2k]

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^^ amen

[system]

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This 'new' cold war might be colourful for Europe. Russia will probably launch a few airstrikes in easter Europe as a message to the US... Russian military seems to be gagging for it.

[hanibal]

Re: Is this the Begining of New Cold War

Even the last cold war was fought on European grounds but decisive battle was on Afghan grounds.