Is this how Shias view Sunnis?

Here is another article about Shia beliefs by Abu Sufyan. All Shias are invited to comment.


Dear Brothers and Sisters in Islam, what I am going to show you is the truth about what the Shi’ites think of us Sunni Muslims, the Shi’ites may tell you that we are the same and that they love us but beware because the Shi’ites also believe that it is okay and that they will get lots of reward for lying to Sunni Muslims about what they beleive in…Below is the truth that the Shi’ites tried to hide from us for so long, it exposes the pure hatred that they hold against the Sunni Muslims. (the Shi’ites practise Taqayyah which means to conceal or lie about their beleifs).

Mohammed bin Al-hassan Toosi reports on the authority of Ishhaq bin Ammar, that Abu Abdullah said “The wealth, the property and everything which belongs to a Sunni is actually yours (is legal for you)” (Tahzib-ul Ahkam, Vol. 2 Kitabul Makasib, p. 116, published in Iran) above in this Shi’ites book it states that all Shi’ites can steal from any Sunni Muslim and that there is nothing wrong with that.

Moallah Khonas reported that Abdullah said “snatch the possessions of a Sunni whereever you find it and hand over my share (ie. One fifth) to me” (Tahzib ul Ahkam). Brothers and Sisters in Islam these Shi’ites think that they can steal our possessions and who knows what else they would like to do to us Sunni Muslims!

The Shi’ites say this regarding Sunni Muslims “Although Allah, the Exalted, has not created a creature worse than a dog, yet a Nasbi (ie. A Sunni) is worse than even a dog.” (Haqqul Yakeen (Persian) Vol 2, P. 516) Here the Shi’ites have said that Sunni Muslims are worse than Dogs!

The Shi’ites say that we will never go to Paradise! “It is contained in several sources of information that they, (the assumed Imams of Shias) said: 'Should every angel that Allah, the Exalted and Gracious, has created, every prophet that Allah has appointed, every truthfull martyr, (collectively) pray to Allah, the Exalted and Gracious, to release a Nasbi (a Sunni) from the Hell, Allah would never release him.” (Haqqul-Yaqeen, (Arabic), Vol. 2 P. 192) This is what the Shi’ites realy think about us!!! They say that if anyone who is a Sunni Mulim will go to Hell!!! Don’t these Shi’ites know what they are sayying???

This is what the Shi’ites say what will happen when their so-called Imams will return “When Qaem alaihissalam appears, he will start slaughtering Sunnis and their Ulema before slaughtering the infidels (kaffar).” (By the term “Quem” the Shi’ites mean Imam Mahdi, their twelfth Imam) So here the Shi’ites state that we are not Muslims, and that we are worse than the infidels (kaffar)

So dear Brothers and Sisters, how can the Shi’ites expect us to be freinds with them when they Insult us and call us Kaffar behind our backs. So when a Shi’ite Insults a Sunni he is also Insulting all the Schollars and all of those pious people in Islam, can’t these Shi’ites see what is wrong with their own beleifs???
May Allah Guide the Shi’ites to True Islam, and May Allah show us what the Shi’ites really are, Ameen

by: Abu Sufyan

Being a Hindu, I believe in Muslims in general in most of cases. For example, I agree whatever shias say about sunnis and whatever sunnis say about shias. I do not agree with their opinions on hindus though.

Bismihi Ta’la (In the name of the Most High)
Assalam o alaikum

This will be my last response to the posts from Mr. Xtreme, for the simple reason that the articles that he posts [against the Shi’a] and the writers he subscribes to, has displayed a sense of dis-honesty quite consistently. There is no better term that can expressively reflect on what this post offers.

Sufyan > Mohammed bin Al-hassan Toosi reports on the authority
*Sufyan > of Ishhaq bin Ammar, that Abu Abdullah said “The wealth, *
Sufyan > the property and everything which belongs to a Sunni is
*Sufyan > actually yours (is legal for you)” (Tahzib-ul Ahkam, Vol. *
Sufyan > 2 Kitabul Makasib, p. 116, published in Iran) above in this
Sufyan > Shi’ites book it states that all Shi’ites can steal from any Sunni
Sufyan > Muslim and that there is nothing wrong with that.

The word Sunnis is actually Nasibis in the original text, and if you recall my previous post, I had corrected his spelling from nasb to Nasibi. If you want the Arabic text, I can e-mail it out to the reader. It is quite apparent that the writer, Abu Sufyan does not understand the difference between the word sunni and nasibi.

To end this, I shall share a tradition from the beloved Messenger of Allah, that seperates out the fate of those who love the ahlul bayt and those who are nasibis, those who wish ill for the ahlul bayt.

The Messenger of Allah said:

Ref: Tafsir al-Kabir, by Fakhr al-Din Muhammad Ibn Umar al-Razi, Pub. in Egypt (1357/1938), under commentary of verse 42:23, Part 27, pp. 165-166.

It has been widely reported by the commentators of the Holy Quran that:

1. Tafsir al-Kabir, by Fakhr al-Din al-Razi, Part 27, pp 165-166
2. Tafsir al-Tha’labi, under the commentary of verse 42:23 of Quran
3. Tafsir al-Tabari, by Ibn Jarir al-Tabari, under verse 42:23
4. Tafsir al-Qurtubi, under commentary of verse 42:23 of Quran
5. Tafsir al-Kashshaf, by al-Zamakhshari, under commentary of verse 42:23
6. Tafsir al-Baidhawi, under the commentary of verse 42:23 of Quran
7. Tafsir al-Kalbi, under commentary of verse 42:23 of Quran
8. al-Madarik, in connection with verse 42:23
9. Dhakha’ir al-Uqba, by Muhibbuddin al-Tabari, p25
10. al-Sawa’iq al-Muhriqah, by Ibn Hajar Haythami, Ch. 11, section 1, p259
11. Shawahid al-Tanzeel, Hakim Hasakani, al-Hanafi, v2, p132

Sufyan > May Allah Guide the Shi’ites to True Islam, and May Allah
Sufyan > show us what the Shi’ites really are, Ameen

May Allah guide you to quote honestly!

Ali Abbas
www.al-islam.org/index

[This message has been edited by AliAbbas (edited May 26, 1999).]

Thank you for your clarification. Sorry if you find this stuff offensive but I have heard your side of the debate and I am merely presenting another side so I can clear some things up in my mind. This is my understanding of honesty. I do not necessarily reject Shias as I don't know that much about them but I am very happy to be from the Ahl e Sunnah wa Jammat. I am sorry that you no longer want to respond to my genuine questions but if you are going to consistently post pro-shia articles you should be prepared to hear the counter-arguments as well.

By the way, what is a Nasibi?

Bismihi Ta’la(In the name of the Most High)
Assalam o alaikum …

br. Xtreme, if you have sincere questions, then please share … I in particular have problems with those posts, where the poster does not even have access to the original reference material.

As to the posts by Abu Sufyan, I can go back and check with my collection of anti Shi’a works, but once I have established that the poster is twisting and mis-representating facts, all credence and credibility is lost. Particularly, if my brother insists to use them as a reference material, how would it reflect on you?

As to the term nasibi, any one who holds a gurdge against the ahlul bayt, wishes ill for them and curses them is a nasibi. History is replete with many instances where this had happened. Of-course our love for them is a direct concomitant from the aya in the Qur’an, 42:23, that I shared above.

If you have questions, please feel free to write to me in person. As it is I am swamped with so much responses that it is difficult to keep up. I can certainly get help from my other brothers/sisters who have served to be an invaluable asset in my determining and serving the cause of the ahlul bayt.

Iltimase duas

Abbas, Ali

www.al-islam.org/encyclopedia

[This message has been edited by AliAbbas (edited May 27, 1999).]

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