Is there really a spirit or something within the idol?

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Goku thanx for the reminder. i think zz here is the only person who has the ability to analyze and making up stuff.

whatever i have mentioned about hinduism exists today. its no ancient story as hindus here claim it to be. caste system exists to this day among hindus. hindus still preach snakes rats monkeys and cows. hindus still worship different idols for different purposes. teaching how to have sex seems like the only job hinduism has done for hindus...... but then again how is that different than a dirty magzine showing different postures?

the sad part is there isnt anything to analyze about hinduism.... probably making them aware of the filth they follow is the objective here.

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Rani,
Can you plese tell me why Hindus worship erected penises?Why do you Hindu women degrade yourself.And one more question.What does cow urine taste like?

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Rani,
Can you plese tell me why Hindus worship erect penises? Why do you Hindu women degrade yourself? And one more qusetion.What does cow urine taste like?

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Kashmiri Kalli,

Can you plese tell me why Hindus worship erect penises?<

Hindus dont worship erect penises - they worship a symbolic idol, the shiva linga, which might be your idea of an erect penis if you dont know what one looks like.

Why do you Hindu women degrade yourself? <

what makes you think hindu women degrade themselves?

What does cow urine taste like?<

is that supposed to be some sort of a trick question or something? you dunno a thing about hinduism - you think hinduism means worshipping nude penises, drinking cow's urine, free sex.. i doubt if you'd asked the questions with sincerity... you badly need to get a life..

mundyaa,

too bad you still couldnt get rid of your hindu-complex. caste divides? what about shia-sunni-ahmedi-agakhani-ismaili-blah-blah- divides? call it what you like - varnas, feudal order, sects - it's there in every society, islamic included..

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I'ld like to remind muslims not to indulge in a senseless debate. According to Quran , whoever worships idols will be burnt in hell alongside stones(idols).

However, one must also remmember that Allah's
mercy bestowes upon believer an non-believers alike. He is the creator and sustainer of this universe and its creatures, every individual will be judged on the basis of his/ger conduct on the day of judgement. Therefore, only Allah deciedes who's worthy of going into Jannah and
who's to become the fuel for hell-fire.

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According to Quran , whoever worships idols will be burnt in hell alongside stones(idols).<<

I am confused at one hand you say that Islam is religion of peace and on other hand you are saying idol worshipers will go to hell. Why is so important to worship God in a certain way or to worship it all. If God is really the supreme creater he shouldn't care whether he is worshiped or not if he cares then he is not God just a mere mortal.

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Mundayya, why worry about hearsay. Let us take scriptures one by one and analyse. I have posted 4 upanishadas. Waiting your comments.

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before i read these long scripts... i would like to know the following.

do they explain the cast system that exists in hinuism and how does it justify it?

do they give a reason as to why hindus should worship idols? why they expect idols to give milk when they know they are made out of stone?

do they talk about how a hindu should live his/her life? does it distinguish good deeds from bad ones. and describe what a good deed is in hinduism and what makes a bad deed?

why do hindus preach a erect penis? similarly snakes, rats, monkeys and cows?

if u r going to send me on a wild goose chase by making me read this lengthy difficult to understand stuff, which does NOT answer these questions. Then now is the time to say so.

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ZZ,

I think that life has an aim, it's to promote the truth and expose falsehood. I think that you will agree with me on this. I feel that what you're saying is that God doesn't reward you for this.

Where do all the sacrifices you have made and stances you have taken go?

"c) It is not even necessary that all philosophies named hindu philosophy believe in god.

d) Hinduism is a name given by foreigners to all the practices and philosophies prevalent in region (except buddhism). even by law, as in hindu code bill, hindu is defined as one 'who is not christian, muslim, jew, parsi'. it is a negative definition. cuz positive is not possible."

If c) is true then don't you think that d) is justified in the sense that showing what it isn't is better than going into a long explanation over what it is.

"f) however, most hindus believe that other sects are EQUALLY true and they are different paths of approaching god. Hindus believe that supreme truth can be approached in various ways and everyone has its own."

Then what have you got against Islam? It might be that you feel that Islam doesn't fit into this picture.

Rani,

Isn't it convenient that you ignore the questions I make to you and instead listen to people who are hurling abuse towards you.

You're choosing war over peace.

" I am confused at one hand you say that Islam is religion of peace and on other hand you are saying idol worshipers will go to hell."

We believe that idol worshippers will be like wood for the fire, that doesn't mean we treat you unfairly in this world, that is where the peace is. We cannot force you to become Muslim.

Islam isn't like Christianity which aims to have the largest number of conversions. Islam manifests itself as a political entity where people of religion can live in peace with each other and have lived in peace under the islamic state when it used to exist.

"Why is so important to worship God in a certain way or to worship it all. "

If it isn't important then why are you a hindu?

"If God is really the supreme creater he shouldn't care whether he is worshiped or not if he cares then he is not God just a mere mortal."

How do you know how God thinks?

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Mundayya, read long scripts also sometimes, why always trust the pamphlets of jamaata dn ur madarsaa teacher who told you that kamasutra is a major scripture of hinduism.

Waiting for you there.

I know these texts are deeper and more intellectualy sophisticated that 'adam aur hauva dono jannat mein raehte the' kinda stories. but you can try them.

Last one is a cheap shot, true, mainly for mundayya.

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Scarface,

Please read mine ZZ, Zalim, Adbul and Dehataan's posts carefully and with an open mind you will find all the answers you are seeking. Your questions are answered many times over. Also, please read ZZ post regarding Upnishads.

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Rani, since you are dumb enough to worship idols carved out of stones by human themselves ,therefore you are unable to understand the simplicity of the message.
All, including idol-worshippers will get a fair trial on the judgement day. He may choose to forgive any individual for any particular reason, it's all within his mercy and power.
Worshipping anyone(thing) else beside Allah is likely to lead one on the path of destruction. As a muslim my job is to remind you of the grave consquences of idol-worshipping, same idols which will aggravate the torment in hell fire rather than becoming the saviours.

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Outlaw,

You are brainwashed and dumb (just using your kind of language for a change). You don't want to think that is your perogative but phlease don't stop others from thinking.

I am glad that all muslims will go to heaven regardless of their karma-easy and a simple. Muhammad sitting next to God on judgement day (from your post) will make sure that all the Kaffirs will go to hell because they fail to follow God's word and therefore didn't please him, even though they are kind and decent people.

My concept of God is very different then your's the God I believe in is compassionate and doesn't care whether you worship him or not and loves everybody (Hindu, Muslim, Christians etc). I don't need a set of rules to tell me how to behave at each and every turn. All I need is set of good values provided by various people and teachers in my life to chart my way.

Peace.