Is There A Redemption for a Kaffir?

Is There A Redemption for a Kaffir?
There are two scenarios
1.Suppose I led a Kaffir life, belong to a Non-Muslim faith and converted towards the end of my life and was a good Muslim. Is there any hope that I go to heaven?
In other words, do the bad things I did before conversion still count when the balance is counted?

  1. Suppose I was a Non-Muslim all my life and decided to convert in Hell or just before I croak. What are my chances?.
    This raises a philosophical question. Do ‘I’ exist after death?

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Originally posted by Andhra:
*Is There A Redemption for a Kaffir?
There are two scenarios
1.Suppose I led a Kaffir life, belong to a Non-Muslim faith and converted towards the end of my life and was a good Muslim. Is there any hope that I go to heaven?
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Hopefully you will go to Heaven in that case

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Originally posted by Andhra:
*In other words, do the bad things I did before conversion still count when the balance is counted?
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No bad deeds before conversion would not be counted

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Originally posted by Andhra:
*2. Suppose I was a Non-Muslim all my life and decided to convert in Hell or just before I croak. What are my chances?.
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No chance would be given in hell

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Originally posted by Andhra:
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This raises a philosophical question. Do 'I' exist after death?

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Yes, you do

[This message has been edited by OASis (edited December 04, 2001).]

No bad deeds before conversion would not be counted<<
Even if I am a mass murderer before I converted? Like Idi-Amin?

Allah is forgiving & His forgiveness is not limited to the followers of one faith!

Even if you die a Non-Muslim but have done Godly deeds in your life ... then, who is to say God will not forgive you? :)

Islam does not claim to monopolize salvation!

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*5: 70. Surely those who believed, and the Jews, and the Sabians, and the Christians - whoso believes in ALLAH and the Last Day and does good deeds, on them shall come no fear, nor shall they grieve.
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[This message has been edited by ahmadjee (edited December 04, 2001).]

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Even if I am a mass murderer before I converted? Like Idi-Amin?
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All Sins are forgiveable!

Though tell me, is it the same in Hinduism?

Nope. And I think that is as it should be. According to your logic, whoever you are cursing saying they are murdering Muslims, like Ariel Sharon etc., will become saints (Saints end up in heaven right?) as soon as they convert

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Originally posted by ahmadjee:
**Allah is forgiving & His forgiveness is not limited to the followers of one faith!

Even if you die a Non-Muslim but have done Godly deeds in your life ... then, who is to say God will not forgive you? :)

Islam does not claim to monopolize salvation!

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*5: 70. Surely those who believed, and the Jews, and the Sabians, and the Christians - whoso believes in ALLAH and the Last Day and does good deeds, on them shall come no fear, nor shall they grieve.
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Well, I disagee with you on this matter. Jews at the time of Mosa (AS) and Christinas at the time of Essa (AS) were on right path, but after Propher Mohammad (PBUH), all the previous shariats are not valid now. Everybody has to follow Islam now.

Well, I disagee with you on this matter. Jews at the time of Mosa (AS) and Christinas at the time of Essa (AS) were on right path, but after Propher Mohammad (PBUH), all the previous shariats are not valid now. Everybody has to follow Islam now.<<
Sorry ahmedjee Oasis seems to have ruled out paradise for me

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Let me hope for a better deal elsewhere

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I dont have authority to rule out anyone for paradise. Allah would make this decision.

Anyway, if you find a better deal elsewhere, go for it. Maybe ahmedjee would provide you a deal of paradise in Rabwa

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Well Oasis you sounded quite authoritative when you ruled out Jews and Christians. That is why I was looking elsewhere.

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What is ‘Rabwa’ ?

Well, initially, I thought that you were serious in asking those questions. But I was wrong, you are just asking it for fun.

I didnt rule out Jews and Christians, go back and read my post.

Rabwa: You better ask ahmedjee

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Andhra, Would you like to answer this question

Or are you only good for →

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Yeah, everything is funny for this guy, Andhra. He is only good for

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Lemme do this as well:

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Well Andrah wanna try your luck here too:
Another Question…

And yes if you reply then please reply ONLY ON THAT Question and don’t blah blah about what I’m not interested in.
Thank you.


*“na maiN momin vich masiitaaN, na maiN muusaa, na fir’aun!”
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[This message has been edited by Ali_R (edited December 04, 2001).]