Is the video of girl in swat a tool used by US to invade Pakistan?

The video of shameful act conducted by unknown militants to a 17 year old girl in swat appeared.

Some government officials are saying that there is a possibility that the video might not be original and might have had made by US itself to sabotage the swat peace process and in order to pave the way to attack Pakistan by continuously launching a propaganda campaign against muslims, Islam and ISI as well as against Pakistan

Moreover, some questions also arise which go against USA that are;

This incident took place on 3rd January, but why this propaganda is continuously done and shown after 3 months? Why not at that time?

Some more allegations and UnIslamic acts were also seen in this video that are;

-When giving punishment to woman it is not permissible in Islam to lie her down but to sat her down then to give punishment but only in case of adultery or hudood cases, and if someone has 4 witnesses of adultery then they must have to show them otherwise this is a brutality and the responsible persons must be punished according to Islamic law

-Second allegation is that woman must be all covered according to Islam when you are giving punishment to her but here her shalwar was clearly seen

-Third allegation is that during punishment no one can hold woman but here 3 men may be gher mehram holded her which is UnIslamic act

-Moreover to make video films in such a situation of woman is strictly prohibited in Islam.

Now, moreover, this is also a fact being described that the name of village which media is saying in which this incident took place, it’s residents say that no such incident ever took place here.

And Rehman Malik also expressed the possibility that it might not be original video and may be a game plan of anyone else.some Taliban officials accept the responsibility of this act and many other also refuse to accept. So unclear replies are coming all around and this is a correct decision of supreme court to take self notice of this incident otherwise no one will know the correct situation or actual situation.

And suppose if we also claim that Taliban had done this then the question also arise that are Taliban muftis so ignorant and sleeping and blind that they would not have known that in case of giving such UnIslamic punishments not only of Pakistan but also muftis of entire muslim world will be against them and they will also lose support in people of their own country?

So, no one can say much about it that who had done this or is it any kind of act done by loya jirga or a group of some family members or any injustice jirga decision like chaudhry and panchayat system in Punjab who even don’t know the definition of law or Taliban or a propaganda campaign by US to create anger among Pakistani people against Taliban and to pave the way to attack Pakistan like aghanistan and iraq. Becoz when we see both of these countriz then before attacking them, similar kind of propaganda campaigns were started by American and western media

Now the question arises that is this video of girl in swat a tool used by USA to pave the way to invade Pakistan by creating anger amongst the people as they did in iraq and Afghanistan?

i guess we need to come to the term that taliban are not representing the spirit of islam and they are criminals, need to be dealt with iron hand.
i dont want to argue about Nizam-e-adl because there are mixed stories about it but forget what US thinks it is important we take action and eliminate this threat regardless of whether it is sponsered by US or not although i have my doubts.

o yes junaid you are also right that taliban indeed are a threat to moderate extent and this threat must be eliminated but we also not had to forget the foreign threats to Pakistan and we must eliminate both the threats rather then only one threat by ignoring the greatest threat to Pakistan!

Don't live in a state of denial my friend, there are millions of videos available on youtube about barbaric Taliban punishments from both Afghanistan and Pakistan...

You have to be conceptually correct, there is no conspiracy theory here...

We live in a multicultural world today and religious laws can not be applied in any country in these present times. Saudi Arabia and Iran are considered barbaric today because of their adoption of religious laws according to the majority understanding...

This is 2009 and not 6th century...religion is from God and laws are from the state in which everyone can coexist. Any deviation from this principle and your society will be considered barbaric in today's world. It is as simple as that. If you want to survive in today's world you have to develop tolerance for others, otherwise you will not be tolerated.

well yazdi! it seems that religion has no importance to you and nor u follow its laws as they are barbaric ones Nauzobillah according to ya. shame on you.

well when you talk about the modern era then there are also zina incidents which we follow in modern era then what do you say are these right.

damn!

:hoonh:

this is shameful

Not withstanding your curses and nauzbillahs and shames…your post is devoid of any intellectual content like your ability to reason logically…

You can not give anyone the right to enter people’s bedrooms and check zina incidents…it is considered uncivilized today whether you like it or not…and if you want to get in somebody’s bedroom to check zina you will be considered a nut case requiring mental treatment. And if you want to enter somebody’s bedroom with a gun to check zina incident you will be considered a barbaric criminal requiring persecution…

Rape however is considered a universal crime today and is punishable in every society…

If however you are a pious muslim like you claim, please study carefully your hudoods and apply them on yourself strictly as best as you can…and stop bothering about others and stop judging others…Don’t try to do Allah’s job of judgement…

Peace…

Re: Is the video of girl in swat a tool used by US to invade Pakistan?

^ So, in effect, it should be okay if one's family members are involved in zina because we should consider it 'uncivilized' to disturb them?

Its really interesting that bombing civilians is 'civilized' and checking zina is not in 'today's world'.

Look Kaka...I am not endorsing zina or illegitimate sexual relationships..I am against the creation of a moral police with guns to storm people's bedrooms to check the incidents like Taliban/Saudi/Irani brand of Islam..if such incident happens in a family it should be up to them how they want to deal with it...such matters should not be a public affair...

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Anyone got the likn to the video?

It seems the motives of Taliban were much higher then “Zina” …

Giving the incident’s background, Shaukat said the allegation against and the treatment meted out to the girl was actually a punishment against her for refusing a marriage proposal

The man who proposed to marry her joined the ranks of the Taliban after the rejection and this was how he took his revenge from the 17-year-old girl, Dawn News quoted Shaukat as saying.

DAWN.COM | + Pakistan | Man who made Swat flogging video speaks to Dawn News

Re: Is the video of girl in swat a tool used by US to invade Pakistan?

Can we please come to terms with the fact that there is no limit to how many stupid muslims exist out there that could be responsible for such things?

Problem you are mentioning lies with the "Islamic" laws made in Pakistan, the way they write and execute the laws.

Uncivilized punishments are uncivilized and should not be legitimized as part of daily life as has been done in taliban occupied areas.

War is another matter and is allowed against the rebel takfiris to stop their injustice.

What do you think is the greatest threat to Pakistan?

That is very true & that is why public opinion now is turning against Taliban.

Re: Is the video of girl in swat a tool used by US to invade Pakistan?

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I thought we had enough of this discussion, Yazdi clearly points out and also everyone who is in his right state of mind. This is not 6th or 7th century for God Sake.. these so-called laws just can't be implemented, well i am still proposing a plan to designate a special place where all the shariaah lovers can do what they like. Cut them from the rest of the world.... in any condition rest of the civilized world will fight until we clear out these suckers of humanity.

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this is an old video from 2001 … this is all filmed by some jews or indians or americans… right??? people come out from the state of denial. this is Islam.. then i don’t accept it.. you can sue me anyway !

Re: Is the video of girl in swat a tool used by US to invade Pakistan?

A protest in islamabad against the recent barbaric actions of talibs in swat was confronted by mullah gang who shouted slogans in favor of taliban.

Does that men these mullahs are also foreign agents since the video was a conspiracy according to captain FT?

On the one hand mullah are saying this video is a conspiracy, on the other hand they are defending this punishment. Which is it? Please come out of your bipolar mentality!