Well may be! If we look at the other side which is, how many are educated (then i mean doctors, lawyer, engineers and so on) versus noneducated (quit at college). Then i can tell you that is very bad in USA compared here in Skandinavia. By the way the most criminals type of persons exist only in USA. Every one has gun there!!! That insane. That not usual in Skandinavia. By the way the most beautiful country (in western worlds) is skandinavia not USA where we looks like ants in New York and L.A and so on. That not in Skandinavia. By the way the most famous scientist in photobiology live in Norway!!.
Beleive me that here is good place to live also. Not so warm and not so cold as in USA!!! I give a shit on USA because whenm i was there i saw Mc-donlads every corner in evry street. It made me sicks. I couldnt find a very ordinary tandoori restaurant there. But here in Copenhagen and in Oslo we find many of them espcially in Oslo, the multinationated city living in harmony. When we talk about the technology then forget about USA, Who invented the motorengine for those boats? Yeah it was a norwegian. Who invented paperholder which looks like this @? it was a norwegian. Who invented a red salami, yeah it was danish. Who invented the best beer in the world of course danish! Then i tell you asshole, kick ass the USA. I hate those fatty guys who eat burger all day long. Bullshit country. Controversial country. Nonharmoni country. Tell me how many people in jail in this time in USA compared to Skandinavia. Then i can tell you there are more free birds here in Skandinavia than in USA counted in procents!!!! I love Skandinavia becuase it contain three different country with three different landscape and cultural. We have two kings and one queen in Skandinavia. You have Bill Clinton who like to do what ever he like to do. Bullshit to him.
Like I said...Usa might be great for those living in America. But what about the rest of the world? If everybody is competing there is bound to be winners and bound to be losers. The way the World Banking system is set up it is almost impossible for third world countries to compete. They are too much in debt and will spend eternity paying off these debts instead of developing their countries. NYA is an economist, maybe he can enlighten us as to how these countries can compete with the US without Uncle Sam putting his big boots on and stomping all over them.
Shamas has given a clinching proof of how scandinavia is better than US. Let us see NYA's response.
Dear ZZ,
I am speechless to refute any of Shamas's arguments. Not because they need to be translated from Nordic to understandable, but because he makes some good points. Look at the inventions he has listed. Don’t we all need a two hole punch? My god, where would we be without a two hole punch? I guess making holes with an icepick.
What amazes me the kind of strange bedfellows the “hatred against the USA” produces. From luny left, such as yourself, to xxtremeley right, and some confused such as my dear friend Shamas. I am totally taken.
Dear Mr. Xtreme,
The only economic explanation I can give you about the global banking system is that some countries don’t know their a$$ from their elbows. Banking is simple. You lend to whom you can recover from. Some have nothing to show as collateral. Word of mouth is no-good in today’s age. Show me the Money is the name of the game. If some places are kept intentionally backward by their own people, one cannot blame others for that. I think you get the point. And don’t forget how much loan gets written off. If you like, I can show you some data. No one is asking LDCs to produce nukes, they can as easily spend that money on improving lives of their people.
NYAhmedi...>>Please tell us what place is the most advanced nation in your opinion....<<
But when Sethi Sahib reminded him....>>Have you ever heard about Denmark ?<<
NYA remarked...>>Denmark is nice, but lets not compare a small village in the middle of nowhere with the greatest modern civilization on this planet.<<
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And later he says...>>Any place is like a village compared to the USA...<<
SO WHY THE HECK ARE YOU ASKING FOR EXAMPLES??
And as if this is not encough NYA advises Sethi...>>Reading your posts tells me that "you need to loosen up a little". <<
Loosen up? Like Clinton looses up his pants?
And why would Sethi be aware of ...>>I am sure you are familiar with the concept of "Auslander". <<
I thought Denmark had its own language which is Danish and not Deautsch.
And why the hell is he bringing Germany in it...>>Current unemployment in Germany is result of "cradle to grave policies"....<<
SOOOOO! what has that got to do with the topic at hand. The discussion is about Denmark and USA.
And then to his admonishment to Xtreme...>>I think you get the point...<< Well may be Xtreme does, but what am I missing here? To have national prosperity we need to spend, but to have individual prosperity we must save. (?)
But I have few of my own questions to NYA. Have you ever thought what is the resemblace of the self employed globo cop's 'New World Order' to Hitler's 'Neue Ordnung' or Mussolini's 'Ordine Nuovo'. Is is not just coincidental. It has set aside 90m to impose democracy on Iraq and if any developements occur which appear to be contrary to its desires, the US would 'strike first and negotiate later'. Why would Iraq upheld the law of 'all men are created equal'. (?) Same are the examples of China, Singapur, Afganistan, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Eqypt, Botswana and many more. NYA has perhaps never asked himself, 'how much is it the responsibility of usa to impose 'democracy' on others as usa style? 'covert actions' are now replaced with democracy movements.
Concerning the Gulf crisis, Bush said: "What is at stake is more than one small country, it is a big idea __ a new world order __ to achieve the universal aspirations of mankind." This was the true objective of the war __ a New World Order __ not the "liberation" of Kuwait.
Admiral Stansfield Turner, head of the CIA, defined the real purpose of the Gulf War even further when he declared on a CNN programme in July 1991: "We have a much bigger objective. We've got to look at the long run here. This is an example __ the situation between the UN and Iraq __ where the UN is deliberately intruding into the sovereignty of a sovereign nation...Now this is a marvellous precedent (to be used in) all countries of the world..." (A Chronological History of the New World Order by Dennis L. Cuddy, Ph.D).
The nations whose leaders stop licking their boots are more vulnerable because this is taken as a sign of revolt, which is an unpardonable sin. Though Pakistan has been one of the most faithful stooges of America since early 1950s, it too has been a frequent victim of US bullying. Although the concerned Pakistani agencies take adequate security precautions to ensure that Nawaz Sharif does not go the way ZA Bhutto and Ziaul Haq went.
Sultan Bahu once said, 'uchiyaan baangan ouhiou dainday niyat jinhaan di khoti'
:)
Dear NYA
First of all, my dear friend, I'm not taking this personally. I'm not a dane but a pakistani, and I am able to look at this issue as a neutral person, without being prejudiced!!
Secondly, I fully agree in Mr. Baykhatr's posting, which in a very good manner describe my thoughts about american politics. "Interrests and influence before anything"
Those who cannot understand the real meaning of american politics, should try to read inbetween the messages from the media.
Mr. NYA, I'm aware of the word Auslander from my german classes,but in Denmark its called "udlænding", and for your very kind information, having lived here for almost all my life noone has ever called me that!!!
The message from my last posting was that every single person in USA except the native Indians actually are what you call them : "Auslander".
One other thing, I'm very relaxed, and cannot loosen more up, but you should remember Newtons 3 law (my own version) : TO ANY ACT THERE IS A REACTION!
Remember, that the 'bedfellows', first of all not are strange and secondly don't hate USA but only are a reaction to some strange oneeyed views.
My invitation still counts, so whenever dear friend you find your way to my village-country please pay me a visit. I'll be happy to tell you about the greatness of this lovely small village.
This is my last posting on this topic.
Allah Hafiz
Dear Baykhatr, so what's your point? I think you agree that USA is the Greatest nation of all. Otherwise you wouldn't have spent so much time scrutinizing it. It is a good thing. It will give you some idea how this nation stays on top of all, so you (I mean other countries) can apply some of the same principals that play a big role in this nation being the Greatest. I am sure you know what those principals are. Next time, please spend more time proving what country you think is the best, and less talking useless crap. It is very infuriating hearing this from a fellow Pakistani.
Thanks for correcting me about the term "Auslander'. My Danish sucks. Thousan Tuck!
You said "Although the concerned Pakistani agencies take adequate security precautions to ensure that Nawaz Sharif does not go the way ZA Bhutto and Ziaul Haq went."
Which agencies? Do they really have anything that works in Pakistan? These agencies are full of self appointed jerks. Just like Zia. Nawaz is an elected leader, he should do what he pleases. I think your definition of being great is being greatest is being a terrorist like those 'agencies'. Pakistan is then the greatest by your standards. Congratulations.
Sultan Bahu is the greatest. I love all Punjabi sofi poets. He is one of my most favorites. He is the GREATEST.
NYAhmadi
you seem to see the USA through rose colored glasses, remove them n then look again from an objective point of view then inshallah u’ll see what we r all trying to illustrate
America stays on top because it is very good at using others for its own gain. I am not denying AMerica is the most advanced nation but by no means in all areas n the means it uses makes me wonder whethe rthis advancement is somethign to be proud of…
u’re entitled to ur opinions ut read up on how america got ito where it is, read abt what eactly the US’s involvement in the UN is, how much of the UN’s debt is down to the USA
n now this is all i really haveta say on the subject
allah hafiz
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Since the charity of US is being hyped so much, some numbers from "International Herald Tribune" today. They say "US is the last among developed nations in pecentage of resources devoted to foreign aid, protecting ebnvironment, fostering democracies around world, aiding poor and developing trading partners." Of course, there is no point reminding how much money is spent in bombing everywhere by US
hmmmmmmm