I couldnt find any Quote from Holy Quran or Hadees that was once said by Prophet Mohammad Mustafa (PBUH)
That smoking is haram, though it is makrooh because you are inhaling toxens. That way, if you are working in a factory where you have breathe toxens every day…your fastings will be makrooh.
That was my logic to understand this.
However; I have found many scholors’ fatwas who claim that smoking is haram in general and can break your fast or nullify it.
And they believe this theory based on the Quotes in Holy Quran that whatever hurts your body is haram.
So help me understand this GSens, Does smoking makes your Roza makrooh based on something that isnt written in Holy Quran (which makes sense) or does it break it and is haram based on scholor’s fatwah.
If you have your own theory based on Hadees or Quotes of the verse from Holy Quran. Please state and discuss it.
Smoking is haram. Toxic gases and other things you inhale involuntarily, smoking you do voluntarily and it goes inside your body and it gives you mental pleasure of being calm etc.
what if you are addicted to it and you can not leave it behind.
And as for the factory job? those inhaling of toxic gases are inhaled voluntarily also, because if you look at today’s bylaws and health inspections…the only way you avoid them is to either protest or switch work.
so…yes madam. It is done voluntarily.
And I asked for a Quote from Quran or Hadees to support your statement.
Read again Aisha.
Nightwalkr, cigarettes contain nicotine - which is not only an addictive substance, but also an intoxicant; more specifically, it is a stimulant (acts on nicotinic receptors in the CNS). It makes you feel happy/elated/calm/positive etc etc.
The Quran says about inxoticants:
"O you who believe! Intoxicants... are but a loathsome evil of Satan’s doing: shun it, then, so that you might attain to a happy state! By means of intoxicants and games of chance Satan seeks only to sow enmity and hatred among you, and to turn you away from the remembrance of God and from prayer. Will you not then desist?” Al Quran, Surah al-Ma’idah 90-91
It's pretty clear. Secondly, about the factory thing: if one's job at the factory is the only form of employment (i.e. without it, one would not have a livelihood), then I am sure that is a different scenario. Deliberately inhaling gases would obviously be impermissble.
With regards to your statement: **'what if you are addicted to it...' **that is (unfortunately, for an addicted person) immaterial. One chooses to start smoking voluntarily and one deals with the consequences. Just as if you kill someone whilst drunk, you can't use the excuse 'I was drunk'. You chose to drink - you suffer the consequences.
I wasnt talking on a large scale so leave weed or drinks out of it?
Stick to smoking cigarettes only.
And yes it does say that…but according to the sharia laws and all them talks of Mullas and all were that cigarette smoking is makrooh because it does harm your body but not enough to make it haram, until only 2 years ago where scholors took the Quotes of Quran (the one you stated) and made their fatwa against smoking cigarette.
Also if I want to add the use of nicotine patch for those who can not resist smoking during ramazan. I’d really appreciate this duscussion here.
Nightwalkr, I wasn't talking on a large scale either. In Islam, there is generally the principle as told by the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH): "if it intoxicates in a large amount, it is forbidden even in a small amount." So by that measure, I don't know how these scholars of Islam came up with the idea that cigarette smoking does not harm your body enough to make it haraam. People seem to have this miconception that cigarette smoke is somehow less harmful than alcohol and a 'smaller evil.' This is wrong. The liver has regenerative properties, the lungs do not. Every single cigarette you smoke is harmful to you. That is not the case with every sip of alcohol.
Even keeping weed and alchohol out of it, nicotine is decidedly an intoxicant. There are not ifs and buts about it, my friend. It acts on its special series of receptors in the central nervous system called 'nicotinic receptors'. Every 1st year medical student will know this. By that extension, and using the Quranic ayah, surely it's a no-brainer?
Regards your final question, I'm sorry I do not have the requisite knowledge to answer the legality of patches in Islam. You'd do best to consult an aalim!
Its initially makrooh i.e. disliked .. and in ref to above quotes .. its makrooh e tahreemi .out of the two i.e. theres makrooh is tanzihi i.e. should avoid and tahreemi ..which is totally disliked .. . now if anyone is familiar with ''usool e fiqh'' which i am ...there is a general rule that if a makrooh e tanzihi is repeated then it moves a level to tahreemi .. and now if someone is ''addicted'' i..e they are repeating the action which is initialy tahreemi ... once addicted it certainly moves up a level to haram.
ps. do not say ''in ramadhan'' if something is makrooh or haram ..then its makrooh n haraam dosnt matter if its ramadhan or muharram.
^I am addicted, doesnt mean I dont control it...espacially in the month of ramazan, that is where the lord almighty test your will power.
In other words, there are times that I really really want one cigarette because someone just treated me like crap, or, gave me a pointless hassle to deal with, or, being a jerk to me. It gets hard to near impossible to resist smoking in ramazan.
That is only at work.
At home it is like I feel roza as an honour.
But I also fear that it may come to a certain point where I would actually slip off and smoke.
Now the solution for this was, I would start wearing a patch, since it really controls your nicotine cravings and you do not breathe smoke, or eat or drink.
Since I didnt get enough time to quit smoking before ramazan due to some life issues. (not the family issues) There is soo much going on in my personal personal life.
after all the figuring out I thought I'd ask just for the heck of it. Because I didnt find anywhere where it says haram. Though scholors called it haram because it hurts your body.
Smoking is haram completely whether it be in Ramadan or other days because it's injurous to health. Anything which is injurous to health is haram in Islam.
It's like slow suicide.
It not only harms the smoker but also the non-smokers sitting around the smoker. So, it's counted as mass murder.
Smoking was classified as makrooh many years ago because there was no enough research that had been undertaken for us to know the harms of it. In the past it was just a very bad smell and waste of money. It gathered higher makrooh status when it was classed as a mildly addictive substance. Later with the volumes of evidence that it causes death and serious diseases it was re-classified to haram.
Based on the older rulings i.e. that it is makrooh the reason for it to be forbidden during 'fast' is because it is an act of consuming. The jurists have argued that anything other than air flowing down our throat is haram during 'fast'. It has nothing to do with the substance itself.
On the newer rulings smoking should not be done before or after the 'fast'. And rather Ramadan should be the month that you use to give up smoking entirely. Why be dependent on something like that?
For serious addicts I believe there are other solutions such as nicotine patches, but I'm not sure about the rulings on them during Ramadan. Nicotine is haram, but when used as a medicine with the intention to wean off a physical addict (not an emotional addict) then it becomes preferable to do this.
