Is "Rasam-e-Hina" allowed in Islam ?

Re: Is "Rasam-e-Hina" allowed in Islam ?

If sharing a view about islam which lots of good muslims agree with is called taunting so let it be.....Even you know that you jumped the ropes because you did not like a liberal view coming from a non-muslim which made you fume....and where in my thread did I express my anger or was vexed...this is again coming from your halucinating brain which has me all over it. Chill out ! you need to think about somebody else or something else much more important than me.

Re: Is "Rasam-e-Hina" allowed in Islam ?

Peace Rocking vibes

It seems that argumentation has not made you any the wiser with regards the question you have asked on page 3. So, to summarise let's expound on the question.

First ... I will not say anything substantial about the term Mr. prophet, the phrase itself just demonstrates what type answer I need to give you.

Second ... You assert a 'maybe' at the beginning of your statement and then base your argument on this maybe. The reply to that is Muslims do not operate by maybe's ... we have Alhumdulillah enough information on the life of Muhammad (SAW) that can inform us of not only what he did or did not do, but also what he liked and what he preferred. Henna falls into this latter category, I'm sure the references have been given to you regarding the use of henna.

Thirdly ... You ask why imitate him that is a different question and the answer of imitation is given by the guidance in the Qur'an which tells of his excellent example.

Fourthly ... You assert that by imitating Muhammad (SAW) we are somehow making it an Islamic rule. This is not the case. In Islam we have divisions of actions, some are rules others are only preferred actions, which give us benefit to do, but no sin if left out.

Fifthly ... You assert that we are making our own lives hell. That is also not true. Islam is one such order where it appears like hell to the onlooker but it actually a haven for the practicer. What you seem to be chasing to ensure your happiness is in fact what will lead you to a hell, and I am not condeming you either. Rather I am saying that your life in this world will not be happy and full if you insist in striving for those things that Islam discourages.

Sixthly ... You assert you live only once so it should be lived to the fullest. That is true so Muslims ensure that all the hardwork is done in this life. So we can be in Paradise in the Hereafter. Even if we follow the rules and guidance of Islam in this world we will be in a spiritual peace that other methods cannot achieve.

All in all your very short statement is laced with layers of inaccuracies and incoherent thoughts ... I think it wise advice if you think before calling others 'dumb' in future.

And May we all be Guided to a better understanding of truth and of one another. Peace again.

Re: Is "Rasam-e-Hina" allowed in Islam ?

And here we go again...back to square one...It is ashtonishing to see you digging up and refering to five hundred pages of quran and not just reading a couple of posts earlier to verify who called hareem dumb first.........and if you find that out, I guess you owe me an apology....because I was just agreeing with the person who introduced the word dumb with Hareem.......I respect your thoughts about imitating prophets actions(about mehndi and sporting beard) but don't agree with it. Does that give you the right under Islamic rules to insult or be rude to me just because I don't agree with you....If you think it does than I am sorry to say the rest of the civilised world does not think like you....So lets chill out and contribute towards the topic of the thread rather than going back to square one.

Re: Is "Rasam-e-Hina" allowed in Islam ?

Peace Rocking vibes

Seeing that none of points have been picked up by you ... I will with clarification re-emphasise that I have not called you what you have called others. Even though you have copied someone else who said it first. So even though i have not called you 'dumb' I will comply with your request and apologise to you. So I apologise. I'm chilled out and let's indeed contribute to the thread.

Re: Is "Rasam-e-Hina" allowed in Islam ?

I am glad that you realised that you were trying to put words in my mouth so apology accepted....BTW why should I pick up points from your post....I posted my views and you did yours and I said in my earlier post that I respect your views but don't agree with it......period. If you were expecting any insulting post from me than that ain't happening from my side Sir.

Re: Is "Rasam-e-Hina" allowed in Islam ?

Peace again Rocking vibes

I'm not sure I understand you, but I'll agree with you anyway. As for the thread I think it is determined that mehndi rasm can cause a lot of confusion. It is better to mis it out entirely, but if people are doing it with the similar sort of method to the one described by PyariCgudia then perhaps it could be a tolerated activity.

So that is my input to the thread any thing else to add from your side?

Re: Is "Rasam-e-Hina" allowed in Islam ?

I have a question/

What the heck is mehndi rasm?

In South India we have numerous rasams - a rasam is basically a clear soup like preparation that can be either drunk by itself or mixed with sticky rice and eaten. we also dunk meduvadas into rasam sometimes (called rasam vada!).

There are lentil based rasams, tamarind based rasam, black pepper based rasams to name a few., lemon/lime rasam etc. Tomato rasam is very good and common too. Ofcourse you guys would have come across mulligatanny which is basically the black-pepper rasam (milagu is black pepper and tanny is the brit mutation of Thanneer which means water).

But wth is mehndi rasam? never had one

Re: Is "Rasam-e-Hina" allowed in Islam ?

Peace StirCrasy

LOL .... Obviously not Pakistani Rasm means Rite or Ritual.

Re: Is "Rasam-e-Hina" allowed in Islam ?

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*In Surah 10 verse 31 - 39*

*31. Say: "Who is it that sustains you (in life) from the sky and from the earth? or who is it that has power over hearing and sight? And who is it that brings out the living from the dead and the dead from the living? and who is it that rules and regulates all affairs?" They will soon say, "(Allah)". Say, "will ye not then show piety (to Him)?" *

*32. Such is Allah, your real Cherisher and Sustainer: apart from truth, what (remains) but error? How then are ye turned away? *

*33. Thus is the word of thy Lord proved true against those who rebel: Verily they will not believe. *

*34. Say: "Of your 'partners', can any originate creation and repeat it?" Say: "It is Allah Who originates creation and repeats it: then how are ye deluded away (from the truth)?" *

*35. Say: "Of your 'partners' is there any that can give any guidance towards truth?" Say: "It is Allah Who gives guidance towards truth, is then He Who gives guidance to truth more worthy to be followed, or he who finds not guidance (himself) unless he is guided? what then is the matter with you? How judge ye?" *

*36. But most of them follow nothing but fancy: truly fancy can be of no avail against truth. Verily Allah is well aware of all that they do. *

*37. This Qur'an is not such as can be produced by other than Allah. on the contrary it is a confirmation of (revelations) that went before it, and a fuller explanation of the Book - wherein there is no doubt - from the Lord of the worlds. *

*38. Or do they say, "He forged it"? say: "Bring then a Sura like unto it, and call (to your aid) anyone you can besides Allah, if it be ye speak the truth!" *

39. Nay, they charge with falsehood that whose knowledge they cannot compass, even before the elucidation thereof hath reached them: thus did those before them make charges of falsehood: but see what was the end of those who did wrong!

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*The above summarises the idea of fanciful thoughts are not superior to factual truths*
*It also challenges for tests and claims to be from Allah (SWT), expecting anyone to take up that challenge.*

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Peace to you too.

None of the above verses however show you that Islam promotes thinking. I am not talking about "fanciful" thoughts. I am talking about beleiving insomething only if you have some proof. Isn't beleiving in a paradise after death a fanciful hought? IT CERTAINLY IS. Paradise is just an invention, a fanciful belief to reassure people who are scared of death(most are).

As for the challenge, it has been proved beyond doubt that many things in Islam are false( ex: the earth isn't flat)

Re: Is “Rasam-e-Hina” allowed in Islam ?

tobah ! :eek:

Kitni ziada batain kartey hian log :chai:

Koi kaam dhanda nahi hai :aq: