Is PTI/IK army/ISI new "B" team?

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Looks like the Title of thread should be revised to state:

PTI/IK/ISIS has been the team all along!

I K Niazi has been getting directions from the Taliban wanting revenge against Sharif Govt for the clean up in Waziristan!

The Taliban who ran away and joined ISIS in Iraq are his main orchestrator!

per DAWN website:
**Javed Hashmi **says the entire PTI core committee was opposed to marching forward. He said that the committee members also advised Imran against listening to the advice of Sheikh Rasheed.

"Today Imran Khan is saying that I was the only one who opposed his decision to march forward towards PM House...but he knows that it wasn't me alone...the entire PTI committee engaged in dialogue agreed that we shouldn't go ahead. Now they may deny it but they know what really happened."
“Imran Khan and I are not on the same page,” he adds.

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Pak Army Inc. wants to expand its interests by having its own political party.

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That is true.

Even Javed Hashmi has confirmed this.

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More Pti MNA’s condemn power crazy Imran Qadri’s attack on democracy:

Imran, Qadri working on international plan to derail democracy: PTI MNA
Imran, Qadri working on international plan to derail democracy: PTI MNA
PESHAWAR – Member of National Assembly (MNA) Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf Nasir Khan Khattak has expressed the optimism that veteran politician Javed Hashmi expelled by Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf Chairman Imran Khan from the party’s presidential slot, would lead the Party’s forward bloc in the national assembly.

“Yes Javed Hashmi will be our leader in the lower house of the parliament”, said Nasir Khan Khattak dissident the PTI MNA from Karak while talking to APP here on Monday. Pakistan Awami Tehreek chief Dr Tahirul Qadri and Imran Khan were bent upon destroying democracy under a well scripted international conspiracy.

He said that the plan was partially conveyed to a parliamentary party meeting held at Imran Khan’s residence at Bani Gala three months after May 11, 2013 elections. “The meeting of the PTI parliamentarians were told by the Chairman Imran Khan to prepare for the elections in 2014 as the Nawaz government will not last more than a year,” he said.

The lawmaker said that he would contact Javaid Hashmi and other party leaders to chalk out the future strategy for the party. He claimed that there were 21 MNAs who were unwilling to resign from the assembly as the decision was taken by the unconstitutional core committee of the party without consulting the parliamentarians.

He said that the strength of the forward block had risen to 22 after expulsion of Javed Hashmi. He endorsed the claims of the PTI president Javaid Hashmi that PTI chairman was following some external directions. He went on to say that by calling for mutiny and attacking the state symbol, the PTI chairman had lost the right to lead the party so he must step down and face the legal action under Article 6 of the constitution.

“The attack on the parliament and the Prime Minister House by the PTI chairman is a declaration of war against the state,” he said. He said that majority of the PTI leaders were against the current dictatorial policies of Imran Khan. He said that the party constitution did not have any provision to expel any member through public announcement.

Khattak who was elected from NA-15 Karak, said decision of resignation from National Assembly was discriminatory as the PTI government in KP was still functional and only the MNAs were asked to quit the parliament. Nasir Khan said that there was no democracy in the party as it was hijacked by two powerful persons namely Jehangir Tareen and Shah Mehmood Qureshi who were making all key decisions without consulting others.

These two bigwigs in the PTI plus Shaikh Rashid Ahmed have put the future of the party at stake in Pakistan by giving wrong advice to the party chief. To a question he said that there was no danger to democracy in Pakistan rather Imran Khan had created problems for himself by waging uncalled for ‘Azadi march’.

To a question, he said that Dr Tahirul Qadri was an agent of Jewish lobby. He said that he was a Canadian national and could not even become member of Pakistani parliament, how could he ask an elected the prime minister to step down.

He said that the PTI could not win a single seat in the next elections from Khyber Pakhtunkhwa if mid terms polls were held.

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**DAWN editorial on impartiality of Pakistan Army

http://www.dawn.com/news/1129263Army’s questionable decisions**

By Editorial
Published about 2 hours ago

THE carefully constructed veneer of neutrality that the army leadership had constructed through much of the national political crisis instigated by Imran Khan and Tahirul Qadri has been torn apart. First, came the army’s statement on Sunday, the third in a series of statements in recent days on the political crisis, which quite astonishingly elevated the legitimacy and credibility of the demands of Imran Khan, Tahirul Qadri and their violent protesters above that of the choices and actions of an elected government dealing with a political crisis. Consider the sequence of events so far. When the army first publicly waded into the political crisis, **it counselled restraint on all sides — as though it was the government that fundamentally still had some questions hanging over its legitimacy simply because Imran Khan and Tahirul Qadri alleged so. Next, the army crept towards the Khan/Qadri camp by urging the government to facilitate negotiations — as though it was the government that was being unreasonable, and not Mr Khan and Mr Qadri.
Now, staggeringly, the army has ‘advised’ the government not to use force against violent protesters and essentially told it to make whatever concessions necessary to placate Mr Khan and Mr Qadri. It is simply extraordinary that it is the PAT and PTI supporters who want to break into and occupy state buildings, but it is the government that has been rebuked. It’s as if the army is unaware — rather, unwilling — to acknowledge the constitutional scheme of things: it is the government that is supposed to give orders to the army, not the other way around. The government has already issued its order: invoking Article 245. On Saturday, as violent thugs attacked parliament, it was surely the army’s duty to repel them. But the soldiers stationed there did nothing and the army leadership the next day warned the government instead of the protesters **— which largely explains why the protesters were able to continue their pitched battles with the police and attacked the PTV headquarters yesterday.
If that were not enough, yesterday also brought another thunderbolt: this time from within the PTI with party president Javed Hashmi indicating that Mr Khan is essentially doing what he has been asked and encouraged to do by the army leadership. It took the ISPR a few hours to respond with the inevitable denial, but a mere denial is inadequate at this point. The functioning of the state stands paralysed because a few thousand protesters and their leaders have laid siege to state institutions. Where is the army condemnation of that? Would the army allow even a handful of peaceful protesters to gather outside GHQ for a few hours? The army is hardly being ‘neutral’. It is making a choice. And, it is disappointing that choice is doing little to strengthen the constitutional, democratic and legitimate scheme of things.
Published in Dawn, September 2nd, 2014

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LOL! How quickly people “connect the dots”

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BweBwSYIQAAaZRV.jpg:large

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The 2 stooges have not only exposed themselves but also Pakistan Army in an unholy alliance. Dawn editorial has got it exactly right.

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Those two stooges would InshaAllah going to lead Pakistan to independence from Slavery of corrupt Thugs and would hang those who looted Pakistan, made Pakistanis slave in the name of demon-cracy, and persecuted Pakistanis at will.

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Like Altaf Hussain has freed Karachi from slavery of corrupt thugs and hanged those that had looted it?

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In a country full of provincialism and ethnic biases, Altaf Hussain being from minority province tried but could not fully succeed, as Parties of corrupt luterays and thugs did all sort of negative propaganda to malign him and his party. Anyhow, I am happy that even though Karachi and karachiets are getting discriminated in every way, still, Karachi is partially free from exploitation and atrocities of Thugs and police.

The way Thugs in power abuse people in Punjab and interior Sindh, what once they used to do in Karachi too, has changed a lot.

Now, Imran and TUQ has also raised their voices against corrupt system, and most important thing is that, both Imran Khan and TUQ are from majority province and thus thugs could not do negative propaganda about them so easily. So, their chances of success in getting independence for Pakistanis from Thugs, and stop Thugs looting and Plundering Pakistan and poor Pakistanis is much more.

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Target killings and bhatta tax are the legacy of Altaf Hussain, who makes speeches from London when drunk and people are forced to listen to his drunken rants due to fear of this mobster.

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That is what I consider Propaganda but for you it may be reality. :)

Anyhow, one thing that amazes me is, Those who love Butcher of Model Town and Butcher of Islamabad Red Zone, who is also Butcher of many in Punjab, try to talk bad about someone who never had complete authority in Karachi.

Do you know? ... When I investigate background of any Police officer in Lahore localities, I find that they are from Punjab, mostly from north Punjab. Can you tell me that, why it is that if anyone investigates name of police officer in Karachi, most of them would be either from northern Punjab or KPK. So, why, why is this, what is the mystry?

Is it that people of Karachi should not police themselves ... or that they should be kept as colonized people?

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It is not propaganda it is true. I have visited karachi a few times and Altaf Hussain lives fairly close to me.

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Now, what you wrote, think about it. Are you telling truth? :)

Altaf is not living in Karachi since last 23 years. So, when you were living in Karachi close to Altaf?

And yea, you said that it is not propaganda but truth, so how can you say that? Did you used to move with Altaf Hussain and saw him killing people?

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I live close to him in London. I have met people from Karachi who can talk freely here without fear of Altaf Hussain.

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So, you live close to him in London and know that he goes to Karachi and kill in Karachi.

Does he take you with him when he go to Karachi to kill?

Or you are just saying and claiming it to be true, what you hear, but have no proof?

So ... if I tell you that Nawaz Shareef is rapist and homosexual, so you would now say to all that Nawaz is rapist and homosexual, and that what you are saying is true ... because obviously you heard it, because I told you so, right?

so .. now you start telling everyone with certainty that Nawaz Shareef is rapist and homosexual, confirming that it is true. OK? :)

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Yeah the same buzdil dilly-dallying Nawaz Sharif, who is in bed with Punjabi Taliban, LeJ etc., who was indecisive and confused for months until the military and the public mood forced him to take action against the TTP miscreants in NW

Don't say it was because of IK because (right or wrong) his TTP stance has been consistent for a decade.

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No he does not go to Karachi as he is afraid that he will be killed if he moved there because he has too many enemies.

But he controls a mafia called MQM from his base in London. Money is extorted from Karachi and then shipped to the UK, Altaf Hussain despite not having any job in the UK, owns a few properties and also was admitted to a private hospital when Police arrested him.

Now he seems to be looking for a new opportunity to either extort money from IK, NS or Pak Army.

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Army will always be the major power broker in the country because of the corrupt attitudes and incompetence of our politicians. The utter incompetence of PML-N Government in dealing with the current situation is there for everyone to see. Even Zardari had to face a few tricky situations but he handled them much better than NS. first asking COAS to mediate then openly lying in parliament (of all places) only to be rebutted by DG ISPR. What a joker of a PM we have?

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You know all this, how? … Hmm, you are really connected. :slight_smile:

You must be right hand man of Altaf Hussain, right?:halo:

Altaf has a mafia in Karachi MQM that he controls. … MQM is Mafia, so, is it bigger mafia than PMLN or smaller?

Money is extorted … hmm, so how Altaf do that? Does he send you to extort money and ship it to UK? … or again, someone told you? :slight_smile:

Altaf Hussain not having job owns a few properties, and you have seen papers of those properties and confirm that it all belongs to Altaf Hussain in every respect? … or again you heard it in fish and ship shop? :slight_smile:

He went to Private hospital … so, what is big deal about that? Or you think that going to private hospital means something? A leader of Party that has many committed workers and supporters, what is big deal if Altaf goes to private hospital? … Even thugs like NS do that, with difference that NS do that using looted money of Pakistani poor, but Altaf was never in government to loot Pakistan, hence going to hospital using party fund.

Police arrested him? … When? Or are you talking about police called him for questioning.

Now Altaf want to extort money from IK, NS and Pak Aamy. :slight_smile:

I think Altaf must have guts that he can extort money from the greatest and cruelest Mafia man in Pakistan, Great Thug NS, who extorted billions and control Punjab police, Punjab judiciary, as well as Punjab bureaucracy … as his personal servant….but Altaf want to extort money from NS … and also army who is one of the largest army in Muslim world.

Gosh, I am impressed from this guy Altaf, who can extort money from world biggest thug ‘NS’ and largest Muslim army ‘Pakistan army’, must be something, right? :slight_smile:

Hmmm … so, Altaf told you all that himself?:halo: