Re: Is Pakistan a safe country for interntional teams to visit?
jee time is ripe for what...to attack BD cricketers?
zaka ashraf is such a foolish, i must say....he is simply trying to score a point here by bringing an international team.....to prove to his boss zardari that he can "deliver"... here is what I suggest..let zaka and his son sit in that armored car every time teams travel from and to the hotel.... you guys will be shocked but terrorists can attack pak team as well...as terrorists will achieve all of their strategic objectives by attacking the Pakistani team....no one will visit pak for next 5 years...people will be scared and pak govt will be under immense pressure.....
and why blame zaka....idiots like waqar, ramiz, aamir sohail all of them were yelling throughout the England series that the international teams shd visit pak and that pak is safe now...now just pray things proceed normally
P.D, the overall situation has improved and it is conspicuous from the fact that no major terror strikes have happened in Pakistan in the last six months time.Major cities like Lahore and Karachi(barring sectarian violence in a few parts of the city) excluding Peshawar have not witnessed any major terror attacks in the recent past.I think Pakistan is committing a big mistake by not declaring itself ready for a host status.
There seems to be a better co-ordination between various security and intelligence wings after the strike at Mehran base .It's been almost a year(precisely 10 months)since the attack and by and large Pakistan has remained peaceful barring incidents in K.P .....
This is the high time that the Government of Pakistan and the P.C.B declared Pakistan a safe place to conduct matches.
I do not agree with someone's here view that only ODI's can be considered and not test matches.What does the difference it make?Pakistan should declare that it is ready to host all the formats of the game.
Re: Is Pakistan a safe country for interntional teams to visit?
P.D, the overall situation has improved and it is conspicuous from the fact that no major terror strikes have happened in Pakistan in the last six months time.Major cities like Lahore and Karachi(barring sectarian violence in a few parts of the city) excluding Peshawar have not witnessed any major terror attacks in the recent past.I think Pakistan is committing a big mistake by not declaring itself ready for a host status.
There seems to be a better co-ordination between various security and intelligence wings after the strike at Mehran base .It's been almost a year(precisely 10 months)since the attack and by and large Pakistan has remained peaceful barring incidents in K.P .....
This is the high time that the Government of Pakistan and the P.C.B declared Pakistan a safe place to conduct matches.
I do not agree with someone's here view that only ODI's can be considered and not test matches.What does the difference it make?Pakistan should declare that it is ready to host all the formats of the game.
well I truly hope you are rite..we all want the best for pak...and i was just afraid that god-forbidden if something bad happens this time , international cricket will not return to Pak for next 5 years... and to that extent, wanted to gauge the ground realities based on guppies' comments, which overwhelmingly suggested that Pak is not ready for international cricket...
my own sense is that we shd wait and i also strongly believe (can't stress more) that pak team will also be a target..we shd give our cricketers same safety protocol what we are offering to international teams...
Re: Is Pakistan a safe country for interntional teams to visit?
well I truly hope you are rite..we all want the best for pak...and i was just afraid that god-forbidden if something bad happens this time , international cricket will not return to Pak for next 5 years... and to that extent, wanted to gauge the ground realities based on guppies' comments, which overwhelmingly suggested that Pak is not ready for international cricket...
my own sense is that we shd wait and i also strongly believe (can't stress more) that pak team will also be a target..we shd give our cricketers same safety protocol what we are offering to international teams...
P.D it's all strategic games. Just see how Lt.Gen. Zaheer Zaheer-Ul-Islam sees the situatuation.. (Ohh yes I do not want to forget his Kashmir comments.** )** :p
But overall situation has changed in Pakistan ......... Let me tell you one thing.You are losing a great deal of time.
Re: Is Pakistan a safe country for interntional teams to visit?
That just because guppies commented here,I won’t buy their statement.
Right after the Abbottabad operation, our beloved chacha from BMGHM (I do not want to name him here :D) had denied the news that that the U.S forced had concealed the operational infos from the I.SI … (Later it turned out even to the fact that the U.S had apprehension about a few I.SI officers ( M-Level) had known about O.B.L’s hideput…) :sigh:
Re: Is Pakistan a safe country for interntional teams to visit?
looks like sanity will prevail and BD will not send his team..Pakistani press as usual is emotionalizing masses ..zaka ashraf is just trying to score a point to show to his master zardari that he has delivered...
if god forbidden something happens, zaka will be sitting in his drawing room....I have a simple solution....how abt zaka and his son travel with BD and pak teams everyday from and to the hotel? that would be fair...
drone attacks are back and all time high in last 4 weeks....some key taliban leaders are killed... 'so I am worried that terrorists may retaliate.
problem is that terrorists don't necessarily need to kill or kidnap a player...all they have to do is to stage a show...stop the convoy, fire few rounds and then disappear... don't even stop the convoy, just fire few rounds and then disappear....how can top notch commandos stop such an act? but if it happens, the headlines will be all over the world.... and cricket will not return to pak for next 5 years ! yes things are improving but lets make sure, we are back to normal..only then teams shd travel to Pakistan.
Re: Is Pakistan a safe country for interntional teams to visit?
well, looks like we guppies are not the only one who are opposing BD team visiting Pak…great article by saad shafqat…situation back home is still bad enough and one bad incidence will destroy our credibility forever… the artcile has clealry outlined Zaka ashraf’s agenda…he is trying to prove a point to his boss zardari that I am a capable man who brought the international cricket back to Pak with absolutely no sense of consequences and no sensitivity shown to possible ramifications…typical cheap bureaucratic attitude of selfishness…
I hope sanity will prevail and BD will refuse..but if they come and something happens, zaka shd be prosecuted for criminal act … as a matter of fact I may personally drag his ass into court… cricket will not return to pak for next 10 years…what security is he talking about? we could not secure our own military bases…saad has shed light on this fact quite elaborately in his article..
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The only guy who is supporting BD team’s visit to Pak is Arleiitter…that says it all! case closed…**
WASHINGTON/NEW YORK: The top US military officer has voiced confidence that the United States and Pakistan can reset their bilateral relationship in a mutually beneficial way, and observed that the country is now stable, after facing multiple challenges over last many years.
“I think the best thing we’ve done over the past several months — you know, the incident occurred on November 26 and here we sit on March the 16th.
I think the best thing we’ve done is we’ve not conducted our engagement with them with a microphone,” General Martin Dempsey, Chairman Joint Chiefs Staff said.
Dempsey’s comments in an appearance on popular Charlie Rose Show came as Parliament in Islamabad prepared to debate the best way forward in the country’s relations with the United States, which were severely strained following the November 26 Nato airstrikes on tribal border posts which killed at 24 Pakistani soldiers.
“We’ve communicated with them directly. We’ve communicated with them privately.
We’re back in close contact with them along the border. We have been in conversations about our military to military relationship, about our foreign military sales, about some of the common challenges of terrorism, and they have asked to be given time in their parliamentary process to have some internal discussions about what the new relationship might be, but I’m personally optimistic that we can reset the relationship in a way that meets both of our needs,” he said.
Asked if he believed that Pakistan is now stable, in the wake of years of grappling with the militancy challenges, the chairman Joint Chief Staff responded: “I do believe Pakistan is stable today.”
At the same time, he felt that “there are some trend lines that would be concerning for both them and us in terms of migration of various terrorist groups.”
Dempsey added the economic conditions in Pakistan also concern him in view of requirements for the large population of the country.
Discussing the Pakistani counterterrorism efforts along the Afghan border, the general said the Pakistanis will do the best they can to curb terrorist groups.
The Pakistanis may have the will to do something, but not the means. “I believe they will do the best they can, but it may not be enough for us,” he said, explaining difficulty of the challenge in enforcing security along the 2600-km long border.
All this makes it extraordinarily difficult for Pakistan to deliver. Dempsey said he is not a Pakistan apologist and added Pakistani army chief General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani and he were classmates in a US military in Leavenworth and have had candid and frank discussions on countering terrorist challenges their two countries face.
General Dempsey said he believes Gen Kayani, will do everything he can against these terror groups, operating along the border.
WASHINGTON/NEW YORK: The top US military officer has voiced confidence that the United States and Pakistan can reset their bilateral relationship in a mutually beneficial way, and observed that the country is now stable, after facing multiple challenges over last many years.
“I think the best thing we’ve done over the past several months — you know, the incident occurred on November 26 and here we sit on March the 16th.
I think the best thing we’ve done is we’ve not conducted our engagement with them with a microphone,” General Martin Dempsey, Chairman Joint Chiefs Staff said.
Dempsey’s comments in an appearance on popular Charlie Rose Show came as Parliament in Islamabad prepared to debate the best way forward in the country’s relations with the United States, which were severely strained following the November 26 Nato airstrikes on tribal border posts which killed at 24 Pakistani soldiers.
“We’ve communicated with them directly. We’ve communicated with them privately.
We’re back in close contact with them along the border. We have been in conversations about our military to military relationship, about our foreign military sales, about some of the common challenges of terrorism, and they have asked to be given time in their parliamentary process to have some internal discussions about what the new relationship might be, but I’m personally optimistic that we can reset the relationship in a way that meets both of our needs,” he said. Asked if he believed that Pakistan is now stable, in the wake of years of grappling with the militancy challenges, the chairman Joint Chief Staff responded: “I do believe Pakistan is stable today.”
At the same time, he felt that “there are some trend lines that would be concerning for both them and us in terms of migration of various terrorist groups.”
Dempsey added the economic conditions in Pakistan also concern him in view of requirements for the large population of the country.
Discussing the Pakistani counterterrorism efforts along the Afghan border, the general said the Pakistanis will do the best they can to curb terrorist groups.
The Pakistanis may have the will to do something, but not the means. “I believe they will do the best they can, but it may not be enough for us,” he said, explaining difficulty of the challenge in enforcing security along the 2600-km long border.
All this makes it extraordinarily difficult for Pakistan to deliver. Dempsey said he is not a Pakistan apologist and added Pakistani army chief General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani and he were classmates in a US military in Leavenworth and have had candid and frank discussions on countering terrorist challenges their two countries face.
General Dempsey said he believes Gen Kayani, will do everything he can against these terror groups, operating along the border.
Looks like PD is anti- PPP faction ,hence case can be closed…. :yawn:
